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Ordering tommorow, is this a good first cycle?

a few other comments:
first, a lot of people suggest holding off on test until your older, or have done a couple of cycles first. they will usually suggest deca for a first cycle. there is nothing wrong with this approach, however, everyone has their own opinion. you can lose the fat with both, just make sure your diet is on.

second, if you are having problems maintaining a solid diet now, you probably wont have any more luck once your ON. you will increase muscle, but you could end up adding more fat.

i would suggest waiting, get used to a proper diet, and do cardio for now. If you really cant wait, try anavar or winny to help lose the fat.
 
lwgy said:
a few other comments:
first, a lot of people suggest holding off on test until your older, or have done a couple of cycles first. they will usually suggest deca for a first cycle.


Thats the total opposite of what everyone says. Nobody has said to use Deca, everyone says test is safer. I know that all the mags say Deca, deca,deca like its going out of style, but thats why I am glad I came here first. To learn from the people who have actually done the stuff. They all say NO Deca.

I am going to have to start another thread now.
 
IMO, it looks fine.

a simple first cycle that will probably be very effective if you do what you are supposed to do and keep your training and diet inline with your goals.

see how your body reacts to Testosterone, follow through with your post cycle therapy, and keep researching for your next one if you choose to do another one.

good luck with it.
 
Thanks,

I really want to hear from people who know what they are talking about, not saying anyone so far dosen't.

Its just when I came here everyone said NO to Deca, now all the sudden someone who seems to know what he is talking about says Deca could be a better choice. Which is it?

I read all the mags and they all say Deca, but when I hear from real people 99.9% say no, but yes to test. I want a safe cycle is this it or not? If not what is?

I thought Deca was safe before I came here, but everyone said its worse than test, so is it or isn't it?
 
BN,
I can tell you that if you want to get down to 225, then you won't be all that big..(muscled up) I am 6'5" and started my first cycle at 226#. I went to 240 after an 8 weeker and have lost 4 of those in my 6th week post. Last Bf% check was at 15.9% and I want to be bigger.

I don't care what the weight is...I want the appearance. I have weighed 260 and was fat but if I get to 260 again with 10%BF, then I will be fine with it.
Just remeber, adding muscle and maintaining it keeps fat burning. So keep your PT high and your diet in check..You'll be good to go.
 
Also, everyone say see how my body reacts to test, what are signs of bad reactions? What are the bad things about test?

This seems like a pretty big chance issue, would something else be safer or less chances for bad things to happen?
 
some love it, some hate it....only one way to find out how you will react to it....

do the research, know what you are getting yourself into, and make an educated decision on what to try. see what happens, and learn the dos and don'ts that apply to your body.

pretty hard to go wrong with testosterone, as it is a naturally occuring substance in your body.

every drug will have it's pros and cons
 
Goldprospector said:
BN,

Just remeber, adding muscle and maintaining it keeps fat burning. So keep your PT high and your diet in check..You'll be good to go.

Thanks,

Yeah thats another point for me doing it now. The more muscle the more heat you have burning fat.

I can stay on a diet fine, I am very good at staying on a diet when goals are set, plus I can't waste any potential this cycle offers by screwing up my diet.
 
BIGNUTT said:
Thanks,

I really want to hear from people who know what they are talking about, not saying anyone so far dosen't.

Its just when I came here everyone said NO to Deca, now all the sudden someone who seems to know what he is talking about says Deca could be a better choice. Which is it?

I read all the mags and they all say Deca, but when I hear from real people 99.9% say no, but yes to test. I want a safe cycle is this it or not? If not what is?

I thought Deca was safe before I came here, but everyone said its worse than test, so is it or isn't it?

When you say safe what are you worried about, liver? gyno? acne?..
 
jerkbox said:


every drug will have it's pros and cons

So what have the least cons?

I CAN get anavar......


I research all the time. I am obsessed about my diet and up coming cycle. Its hard to get all the facts, it would take a lifetime. (As in if you know something I don't speak up by all means.) :)
 
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