Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 49yrs old 5'10" 200 (after turinabol cycle) joints aching, could use some help in the erection dept, looking for strength vs. size. thinking anavar and clen, or stanazolol and clen, but the more i read, the more i need to hear from someone who has actually succeeded in doing what i want to accomplish. appreciate input on product and dosages. thanks.
oral for old guy ?
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My strength gains from OT were really good! pump and hardness and vascularity were great! Liver values were high tho when i got checked. going to stay off for a month. I was doing 6omgs per day 6 weeks. like OT alot but for liver values. wil do it again at a much lower dose with liver protection if i cant find a better replacement. thaNX for your inputcornfish said:
blut wump
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Have you tried Proviron or Dostinex/Cabaser? They're the standard supps for putting the lead back in the pencil for us older guys as out andro levels fall and prolactin levels put out the fire. Can't offer personal experience yet, though.
OT is getting a lot of good rep, lately. I've read that, back in the day, a dose of 20mg ED for extended periods was standard for strength athletes.
OT is getting a lot of good rep, lately. I've read that, back in the day, a dose of 20mg ED for extended periods was standard for strength athletes.
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ALIN
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50cent said:
try some anavar 40-60mg day. stack with some creatine. this combo made me VERY strong.
for the erection part, get some cialis or viagra. proviron will help too but will effect HPTA.
chordz
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RADAR said:I'm 53 and i'll tell you quickly,the perfect choice is what your body used to produce alot of "TESTOSTERONE"
Boners like you wouldn't believe, and the Chicks ,i swear can smell it in your system, Not to mention excellent sleep and lots of muscle.
RADAR
But what about the testosterone/prostate cancer risk in aging men?
bump for u friend,, another natural products u might want to try and read on is avena sativa u can use it all the time ,im not 50 im 35 and this thing gets me goin good after a small cycle of deca with no problem just add tribules to it and u be ok.. but i think i rather take ,say 100 mg of test every 20 days at ur age then viagra ...
gottis said:
Sorry, but I've got to take issue with everything you've said here. Avena sativa and tribulus just can't touch novaldex/clomid/hcg/ when it comes to hpta restoration. A 50year old man needs all the help he can get when restoring his hpta -- I know, I'm 49 -- and using otc supps will not only be a waste of time, but be counterproductive.
And the only thing that 100mg of test every 20days will accomplish is hpta shutdown. That amount won't be enough to make you strong, or even horny, but your body will register the exogenous test in your system and slow down its own production.
wayneboard1
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Blut Wump said:
LOL...lead back in the pencil. But is it a # 2 pencil? I am a #8.3.
wayneboard1
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Blut Wump said:
LOL....I have no idea what you just said.
digimon7068
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cornfish said:
Absolutely! I'm 40 and that shit kills my joints, especially my knees. I'm sticking with test-based injectables from now on. No more orals for me at all.
50cent said:
I've yet to try OT -- got 10 g. on the way -- but can recommend from experience a var cycle of 40-60mg. ED, broken down into 2-3 doses over the course of the day. Var will eventually kill your appetite, so you'll have to force yourself to eat. I personally don't take it after late afternoon because it ruins my sleep. Be sure to run lots of anti oxidants and milk thistle for your liver.
Hope this help.
i think a long acting test will be ok every few weeks,u might be right with 100 mg a bit too low , but on the clomid part i disacree ,i think it sux big time i ,did a deca only cycle a few years back ,and i made incredible gains ,untill i met clomid, i did it 2 weeks after cycle and i fealt like shit till the point i had no sex drive and no energy ,i put a msg on the board and lucky ,got nelson montana a writer to explain what went wrong, clomid might work for some but for others is just over rated , now every time i do a small cycle i come off and take my natural things and i feel alot beter then i did on clomid..u might want to read that article he wrote on it ,and give him a beter argument, but he sure convince me to stay away from it ....kbrkbr said:
faaassst said:
I love var, and so typically run it for 10-12 weeks at a time. I'd run it indefinitely except for the effect it has on my lipid profile. I'm an old fart and just can't tolerate the hard stuff that well anymore, so var meets my needs without a lot of intolerable sides.
My libido doesn't begin to decline until 3-4 weeks into the cycle. If I'm seeing someone, I use hcg or small-dose test to boost it back up. If I'm not, I don't worry about it and regard that time as a vacation from women.
i'm 56 years old. one year ago, i wasn't having trouble with sex drive or erections, but i wasn't 18 years old anymore either. i went on testosterone cypionate 200 mg. weekly and nandrolone deconate 200 mg. weekly. within about one month the results were unreal as far as sex drive, erections etc. and my poor wife is sixty two years old! lucky for me, she is old fashioned and never says no. i know there's been a few times when she's been worn out though.
from what i understand from the others on the board, the orals are probably too hard on the liver for someone our age. i did start a cycle on d-bol though that i only intend to last for 4 weeks.
also, i read in one of the muscle mags last week that in one study men our age who were taking arimedex and no other supplementation, had testosterone levels akin to an 18 year old male. i hesitate to post that because i can't remeber the magazine i read it in or whether it was a double blind, placebo study. any comments or thoughts about that statement by any more experienced members?
from what i understand from the others on the board, the orals are probably too hard on the liver for someone our age. i did start a cycle on d-bol though that i only intend to last for 4 weeks.
also, i read in one of the muscle mags last week that in one study men our age who were taking arimedex and no other supplementation, had testosterone levels akin to an 18 year old male. i hesitate to post that because i can't remeber the magazine i read it in or whether it was a double blind, placebo study. any comments or thoughts about that statement by any more experienced members?
Steve The Bluesman
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And I thought I was old when I started my first cycle at 37 
Why not try low dose Dbol? I have had good results with it on its own and stacked with test. I started seeing strength and weight gain at 15mg, and I never went over 25mg/day.
If you are worried about your liver, and these 17aa's are all the same mg for mg, I would consider 25mg of dbol instead of 60mg of T-Bol. (of course anavar would be even better, but is very expensive.)
To get the johnson working again in the middle of a cycle, try proviron. To get it moving again right after a cycle, Nolva/Clomid/Trib and viagra. Like everyone else, you should bounce back in a few weeks.
Good luck old timer
Bluesman
Why not try low dose Dbol? I have had good results with it on its own and stacked with test. I started seeing strength and weight gain at 15mg, and I never went over 25mg/day.
If you are worried about your liver, and these 17aa's are all the same mg for mg, I would consider 25mg of dbol instead of 60mg of T-Bol. (of course anavar would be even better, but is very expensive.)
To get the johnson working again in the middle of a cycle, try proviron. To get it moving again right after a cycle, Nolva/Clomid/Trib and viagra. Like everyone else, you should bounce back in a few weeks.
Good luck old timer
Bluesman
fcfmuaythai
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on a cycle of primo and var, should i add a small dose of test to keep test levels (and libido) up? how much? thanks!
fcfmuaythai
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with that low dose of test, the sides should be fairly low, right? I'm on 500mg sust/week now, and without the daily nolva i would be getting bad itchy nips. i'm looking for a low sides cycle, hence the primo and var/
Triple J
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saintjohn said:
hey there my man do you mean to say you are on that combo as permanent HRT or was that just a cycle? if permanent have you continued to see the same effects? and how's the wife holding up?
now regarding testosterone and the prostate some of the latest thinking on that topic relates the prostate issue to excess estrogen, and not enough free T and DHT. so load up on T, proviron, and adex and keep your prostate humming preferably with those young candybabe blowjobs (and throw in some GH for good measure)
I wont be doing 60mg's of any oral. my liver values went up pretty hihgh!!! 20 mgs is going to be enough for me. dbol wont make me bloat? sides at that dose? thanxSteve The Bluesman said:And I thought I was old when I started my first cycle at 37
Why not try low dose Dbol? I have had good results with it on its own and stacked with test. I started seeing strength and weight gain at 15mg, and I never went over 25mg/day.
If you are worried about your liver, and these 17aa's are all the same mg for mg, I would consider 25mg of dbol instead of 60mg of T-Bol. (of course anavar would be even better, but is very expensive.)
To get the johnson working again in the middle of a cycle, try proviron. To get it moving again right after a cycle, Nolva/Clomid/Trib and viagra. Like everyone else, you should bounce back in a few weeks.
Good luck old timer
Bluesman
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mikey007
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Everybodies liver values will go up on a decent cycle of orals. Its not like your liver will fall out or something. It will go back to normal after the cycle. By the way Im 39
swolenole
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I'm on my 6th week of a 9 wk cycle of 40mg per day anavar...I have taken 25mg of proviron ed also...no sexual side effects at all......I'm 37 years old 6'1" 230 lbs 15% bf.....the only thing it has suppresed my hunger...I have been cutting so that's not a problem....just made sure to get my whey and protien in every day...also I take liver ands prostate protectants....I have lost bodyfat and maintained strength....note I was on a Sustanon/Deca/Prim cycle for 12 weeks prior with only a month inbetween cycles....so I did not have much for strength gaines...I have acheived what I wanted out of this cycle which was to maintain gaines from my previous cycle, shed bf while maintaining muscle....I can't tell that I have any testicular shrinkage at all...I will pct with clomid and proviron......I pct with nolva and proviron post cycle on my previous cycle and used nolva & proviron up untill I started this cycle..I dropped the nolva and have maintained the proviron straight thru...I will pct for a month post cycle this time and stay natural for at least 3 months pct....I will be curious to see If I suffer sexually when I stop taking the proviron......my wife does not know I use AS so impotence would be a problem...
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mikey007
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You have to decide early on if you have the genes for male pattern baldness if you want muscles or hair.......I choose muscles and the chics love the bald head 
chordz said:
Estrogen increases are the danger. Ever look at a group of men
over 50 and notice they look like the women over 50?
50cent said:
What do your blood test results say? It is logical to look carefully and thoroughly at hormone levels, including estrogen, once you are over 40.
50cent said:
If you are prone to MPB and are already thinning, then dbol, winny, and proviron are going to be hard on your hair at virtually any dose.
If you want to protect your hair, stick with var. Though I haven't tried it yet (10grams on the way) I understand OT is also easy on the hair.
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