Oral AAS before a workout.

[Hugh Gellatts]

D-bol acts somewhat like dopamine in regard to the CNS, which is why sometimes it is great pre-workout, and sometimes it makes you sleepy.

I personally like taking 2 proviron tabs 1 hour before lifting...seems to give some good drive.

 

[OMEGA]

No, it's not awsome, it's rather misleading, because dbol, as any other AAS is not only about promoting nitrogen retention, transcription, etc...
Of course, using orals around the clock is the way to go, but a little higher dose, close to workout will boost performance, as well, as another dose right after will help recovery.

I mean it is a adrogen, and what do adrogens do?

it makes you more amped and aggressive, I do feel cns stimulation, even thought others say it does not

oh well?

I like it too Panerai and I am sticken too it

 

[superchicken]

andy

i too beleive in taking dbol spread evenly, but extra before a workout.

we all know we grow for days after a workout. but my thoughts were if graphed, you would see a spike in growth rate after the workout, and steadily declining from there on.

im sure right after the workout the body prob puts more of an emphasis on reloading glucose than protein sythesis. but to me it still seems there should be a heavier dose which will be effective and present in the system, following the workout. as this is a crucial time.

but i still think it needs to be somewhat spaced out still, for optimum results.

any thoughts on this?

 

[Rio 2001]

Andy, I'm sorry, but I never knew Dianabol wouldn't convert to DHT, this is completely new for me. Maybe you are right, but I always read that acne and hair loss from Dianabol came from it's high conversion to DHT. Since i'm positive I'm not alone in that, I'd like to have you bring me and anybody in doubt some light on this matter.
I can't give you any reference on methandrostenelone and mineralocorticoid effect especiffically, I think is physiology common sense, since water retention comes mostly from mineralocorticoid effect from estrogen, test, and other steroids ( cortisol...) that share a similar molecule structure with aldosterone and can bind to receptors in renal tubules sending a signal to retain sodium and water.But again, I can be wrong, so if Dianabol causes retention via other way then that, please tell me what it is.
Thanks a lot.

 

[panerai]

Like HG said, dbol greatly increases production of dopamine, also, first pass through liver stimulates production of IGF-1, also, it blocks cortisol receptors, which is very important postworkout.

 

[Fe3]

This reply is not misleading at all, i agree with Andy.

I would often hear a couple kinds say, "i took 2 halo's before i worked out, I"M PUMPED MAN"

No way-


Omega as far as recovery time and boosted performance, how do you know this. I think that is inconclusive.


Well done gentleman, carry on

 

[Andy13]

Like HG said, dbol greatly increases production of dopamine, also, first pass through liver stimulates production of IGF-1, also, it blocks cortisol receptors, which is very important postworkout.

Great!

Can you show me some references? I'm asking you for these for my OWN personal collection; I'm NOT trying to call you out or anything like that.

On cortisol--

You have to believe that Cytadren takes cortisol out of the picture better than dbol.. So why aren't guys loading up on IT? Can you show me a reference that indicates that inhibition of normal cortisol action after a workout results in greater gains?

IGF-1

FIRST, if dbol stimulates IGF-1 production on first pass through the liver (reference please?), tell me why this is MORE important before/during/after a workout than any other time of the day. Regardless, if the bber is taking dbol, he should already have ongoing IGF-1 production from residual dbol from previous doses.

I'd also like to check out that ref for dbol and dopamine. I'd like to read the entire article if you don't mind... Sounds interesting. But, again, if dbol increases dopamine production, the amount from one dose (before a workout, for instance) really won't increase dopamine levels all that much greater than what would already be there from residual dbol.

So expain why, again, dbol should be taken before a workout?


Andy

 

[Andy13]

andy

i too beleive in taking dbol spread evenly, but extra before a workout.

we all know we grow for days after a workout. but my thoughts were if graphed, you would see a spike in growth rate after the workout, and steadily declining from there on.

im sure right after the workout the body prob puts more of an emphasis on reloading glucose than protein sythesis. but to me it still seems there should be a heavier dose which will be effective and present in the system, following the workout. as this is a crucial time.

but i still think it needs to be somewhat spaced out still, for optimum results.

any thoughts on this?

Ok.. do you have any rational reasoning for why you believe this or is this just your un-tested, gut feeling?

 

[Andy13]

D-bol acts somewhat like dopamine in regard to the CNS, which is why sometimes it is great pre-workout, and sometimes it makes you sleepy.

I personally like taking 2 proviron tabs 1 hour before lifting...seems to give some good drive.

I used to take 4cc of Ref. B/day (I say cc b/c who knows how much that REALLY was)...


It DID seem to kind of give me a sence of well being.. But I don't know.. I probably felt that way because I read that someone else felt that way on dbol..

Andy

 

[Andy13]

Re: Re: Oral AAS before a workout.

I agree with everything else except this point

I do feel a definate charge to my system when I eat 3 dbol or so 2 hours before a workout.

since I am a newbie who wanted some gaines but without the sides of taking an androgen on a 24 hour basis, I would eat all the dbol before workout to get that androgenic component while working out, and it worked, definatly not placebo effect

then while I was recovering, I had PRIMO in me on a 24 hour basis to help along with anabolism, since primo has is almost toatally anabolic, it had little influence on my HPTA, but it still did the job.

I was growing without the need for oral dianabol in me at all times, the PRIMO did it for me.

the androgenic component before workouts was integral to the success of my cylce, i would not have had the intensity without it.

just sharing thoughts

I don't doubt that the dbol helped you along.. But, how do you know it benefited you more to take it before a workout? Dbol has a short half life but there IS a residual buildup from it.. especially if you take 50mg before a workout.. It will take a few days to build, but 24hrs after your last dbol dose, there IS STILL a reasonable amount of dbol in your blood.

Andy