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Oral AAS before a workout.

Andy13

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So I guess there are a lot of guys that think that oral AAS are good to take right before a workout, huh?

Well, think of it like this..

Dbol has what? 6hr? 4hr half life? Anyway, if you could attach a "dbol-cam" to a dbol molecule to see where it goes, you would see it go through the gut etc etc until it gets into the blood.. It will float around (some on binding proteins, but that's not the point). It will go into and out of cells causing nothing until it goes into a cell and finds and binds an androgen receptor (AR) located in the nulceus of the cell... This hormone/receptor complex then lands on the DNA and causes RNA's to be made.. Then the RNAs are read, and the corisponding proteins are made.. The type of proteins that are made will differ from cell to cell.. But we are talking about muscle cells here... The types of proteins made are "make-me-bigger" proteins..

Back to our Dbol molecule.. Once the hormone/receptor complex steps off the DNA, the dbol molecule is released.. It then goes floating about, in and out of cells.. Maybe binding more AR's, maybe not. So after a few hours, you limp into the gym locker-room after one of your semi-annual leg workouts. You close the stall door in the gym bathroom, look at the toilet and groan about having to do one more squat...

Anyway-- The dbol molecule is gone.. But guess what? The EFFECTS it causes (remember the make-me-bigger proteins it caused the synthesis of in the muscle cell?) Well they are still there.. Doing whatever job they are supposed to do.. These make-me-bigger proteins will eventually be degraded, but this is long after the dbol molecule has done it's business in the cell and left.

Now-- about the workout.. In a process not well understood, all those squats you did will cause some muscle growth... But this is a long, LONG process.. Let's put it this way; when you workout, you are not GROWING during that time... You GROW when you are at rest-- for DAYS after your workout.. And it is a continuous process! (I hope I'm starting to make my point here..)

So-- Since you grow 24hrs a day, it makes sence to take dbol 24hrs a day.. Split up your orals as much as you want (or find convenient).. But realize that orals taken around the clock are tremendously more effective that when taken only once or twice a day (Bill Roberts).

As for dbol for bridging. ..
I bring this up because there has been some discussion on it as of late....

According to Bill Roberts, a realitively large amount of Dbol can be taken in one day, so long as it is done by noon, with little effect on natural testosterone suppression. The only real problem with that is..... you guessed it...... Gains won't be all that great either.... (please don't ask me if moving your workouts to the AM (so that you can take your dbol and then workout) will help :D

Andy
 
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Damn Andy you beat me to it I was just going to post the same thing:bday: give me karma too:)
 
i think a lot of reason people take things before the gym is for the psychological boost, people figure it will make them stronger so, there stronger.the mind is more powerful than people think.
 
Like Fishtales mentioned, some people believe that taking dbol, etc. before a workout gives their workout a boost, similar to an ECA kick. I myself have never experienced this, but may be a placebo effect in some individuals. Conclusion: do it if you want but don't expect much.
 
what about oxandrolone?

I was taking 20mg oxandrolone before my workouts and I would swear it gave me a better workout(greater pumps) than taking it after. Of course I was also taking ALA, creatine, and some high-GI carbs too.

Was this all purely psychological, or would Ox be an exception to the "pre-workout dosing will make my workouts better" theory and actually increase performance?
 
I agree with you that the anabolic, muscle constructing effect of Dianabol has, like all others much more to do with consistent plasmatic levels than with the time of the day that is taken.
However, since it has a rapid absorption, it rises DHT significantly and I think that may indirectly help with training, specially concerning focus and agressiviness( same way methiltest would help performance in a fight, for instance), .
Also, it can have a mineralocorticoid/water retention effect as soon as 3 hours after ingestion, usually giving the "pump"feeling.
I don't think this could significantly affect anabolic results mid/long term, but that would explain why so many people swear it's better to take'm before training.
 
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good post andy. I make sure to take my dbol as soon as i get up then space them out til i go to bed. This way I maintain a steady level in my system.
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Almost forgot....

You know that cute, little pre-workout roid rage you get from dbol before you go into the gym??? I have one word for that.. PLA-CE-BO.

Andy
 
Rio 2001 said:

However, since it has a rapid absorption, it rises DHT significantly and I think that may indirectly help with training, specially concerning focus and agressiviness( same way methiltest would help performance in a fight, for instance), .

Actually, dbol does not convert to DHT.. at all...



Rio 2001 said:
Also, it can have a mineralocorticoid/water retention effect as soon as 3 hours after ingestion, usually giving the "pump"feeling.
I don't think this could significantly affect anabolic results mid/long term, but that would explain why so many people swear it's better to take'm before training.

Can you show me a reference that indicates this? Thanks

Andy
 
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