only gain 6lb during a cycle?? WTF

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

last two cycles i have only gained 6lb in weight from start to finish. WTF
like i start at 210 then end up say at 216 over a 6-8 week period. i did keep 3lb of those 6lbs but hey surely i should be gaining 10lb at least.
i used tren (300mg) and test (500mg) a week with 20mg nolva a day to keep all water retention off. i could use dbol, deca, etc and gain 14lb mostly water which i dont want but hey 6lb is a bit shit isnt it?
by the way i am eating 4500-4700 cals and 300-350g protein every day, sleeping 8-9 hr a night and traininh like a wild man.

 

[axe3]

how tall are you and what %bf? As you pass natty genetic limit #'s get tougher to add on. Also how much time off between cycles?

 

[reigninghard]

i tell ya man 3 -6 lbs of muscle that you keep isnt bad...thats pure muscle!

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

hey reningbird i thought that too. 3lb of muscle each time would be cool. i am not angry about only keeping 3lb but i read about guys gaining like 15lb and keeping 10 but i am 30lb over my genetic natyural max so maybe thats why?
i usaully run 6-8 week on and 5 or so off. but all quick acting gear so by 3rd week of pct i am clean. i am 5`8, body fat is 11%..

 

[Mr.X]

last two cycles i have only gained 6lb in weight from start to finish. WTF
like i start at 210 then end up say at 216 over a 6-8 week period. i did keep 3lb of those 6lbs but hey surely i should be gaining 10lb at least.
i used tren (300mg) and test (500mg) a week with 20mg nolva a day to keep all water retention off. i could use dbol, deca, etc and gain 14lb mostly water which i dont want but hey 6lb is a bit shit isnt it?
by the way i am eating 4500-4700 cals and 300-350g protein every day, sleeping 8-9 hr a night and traininh like a wild man.

If you gain 3lbs. from an 8 weeks cycle, with almost 5000calories per day and 1gram of AS, there is something up. Are you generally lean and have a hard time gaining?

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

wouldnt say i have a hard time gaining. i have gone from 140 to 215 in 9 years of training and on gear for last 3 years on and off. my body fat never goes over about 12% even with 4700 cals a day going in. I am happy keeping 3lb cos if i do that 3 times a year on each cycle i will be 9lb up this time next year but i would have expected to gain 15lb from a cycle not 6lb. as i said i could run dbol, deca, test without any nolva and gain 15lb but i`d be puffy as fuck and lose all of it when i come off as its water. i am confused what i am doing wrong!!?

 

[Mr.X]

wouldnt say i have a hard time gaining. i have gone from 140 to 215 in 9 years of training and on gear for last 3 years on and off. my body fat never goes over about 12% even with 4700 cals a day going in. I am happy keeping 3lb cos if i do that 3 times a year on each cycle i will be 9lb up this time next year but i would have expected to gain 15lb from a cycle not 6lb. as i said i could run dbol, deca, test without any nolva and gain 15lb but i`d be puffy as fuck and lose all of it when i come off as its water. i am confused what i am doing wrong!!?

what AS brand were you using?

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

usually virormone and the tren is british dragon. but the cycle before i used multi vial prop and some other tren acetate. its all good stuff almost 100% on that.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

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[itlnstln]

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