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Once you go Tren, you cant go back?
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Yup.
Tren is king of strength, but I have ran some pretty gnarly test+orals cycles that have been on par with tren runs.
It trashes your lipids something fierce though
Tren is king of strength, but I have ran some pretty gnarly test+orals cycles that have been on par with tren runs.
It trashes your lipids something fierce though
Dave , I have used Tren for years and it has been a staple in all my cycles up until November. I usually run it at 100 EOD and it leans me out and puts on quality mass. I do get tired of the sides especially Tren cough and the night-sweats however it is the best compound on the market for transforming your body. In answer to your question , no I have not been able to mimic the effects of Tren from any other compound I have run so far however I did just start a Test Prop/EQ/Sustanon cycle 3 weeks ago , so we shall see if it has the same effect.
yes cuz tren gets annoying after a while. sometimes its nicer to just run a gentle slow acting cycle that doesn't fuck with my life like keeping me from doing a lot of cardio, hiking, bicycling, etc. or where i have to always obsess over my blood sugar
thats why i am running EQ next cycle so i don't have to put up with the bullshit
thats why i am running EQ next cycle so i don't have to put up with the bullshit
But is it still badass and the top dog roid?
I am at 50g of carbs a day and doing cardio twice a day and I am not having that issue any longer. I think it's something you have to work through; like the horrible anxiety that EQ gives people. Tren is not the perfect drug but it is the strongest.
masterkush81
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Try Primo instead of Tren next cycle... Tren is bad ass for sure! It leans you way out and gives you quality muscle.... Makes alot of people mean MOFO's for sure.... I think Primo at 600mg-800mg per week will give similar lean gains.without the anger, night sweats, cough and lack of cardio ....... IMO
Primo is good but not comparable to tren.
It depends what way you look at it...I can handle taking Primo for 16 weeks over the sides of Tren...I think tren is a dirty drug...Primo is such a good cruiser
Yes I agree because we use them for different reasons.
I am taking both right now.
I am taking both right now.
I agree
TheRippedReverend
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Insomia is a mofo. I was on one on dat shit!!! Tweekin lol
Had tren cough and night sweats too
Hands down a staple aas
This is another reason I stopped running it. I could not take the sides anymore.
sounds like a good deal, thanks for blabbing
auslifter90
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Not true. My best cycle thus far was tren, at the moment I'm doing EQ mast prop and a little test and getting amazing results
perryscoon
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Tren is awesome no doubt, but the sides get really old after a while. I did it every cycle for years and you can only get so used to it. I got pretty good at sleeping on it but I could never find a way to relax on the shit. Even tried smoking pot, drinking wine, etc. Nothing really works. You're amped up ALL the time.
really, not even weed worked? damn i dont like to be amped up all the time
bet thats really great for the gym though
perryscoon
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OH yeah, its awesome in the gym. But when you have other daily life/work/relationship stuff to tend to, it can be rough to deal with mentally sometimes. I got really good at it, but like I said, sometimes I just wanted to relax and couldnt.
Go for it though. See what you think. You can always stop if you don't like it as long as you dont run Tren-E. That shit takes like a week or more to calm down once stopped.
yea definitely gonna run Ace if at all and inject daily to minimize the sides
which part? lol
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UA_Iron
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I'm gonna have to run tren ace this summer.
some of you are totally missing my point. (or missing what SD is asking i dunno) i've run tren probably 5X the last couple years. ace. E, and hex too. my point is sometimes its nice to sit back on a cycle and let the training and diet do the work for you with a little help from a nice slow acting AAS like primo or EQ.
tren acts fast and the strength is incredible on it. but its nice to not have to deal with the bullshit of having to drink 2X as much water when you ALREADY drink a shit ton of water, and having to take 10 caps of n2guard etc etc.
my last tren cycle for example i was sea sick and was throwing up 7 straight hours. i seriously almost died.. i was hoping they would just throw me overboard and let the sharks eat me, no doubt the tren being in my system made things way worse than they would have been otherwise making me more de-hydrated and more feeling like death. my piss was dark orange and it was a horrible experience. i couldn't keep any food or water down at all. atleast on primo or EQ if that happens you don't have to worry about dying on it.
tren acts fast and the strength is incredible on it. but its nice to not have to deal with the bullshit of having to drink 2X as much water when you ALREADY drink a shit ton of water, and having to take 10 caps of n2guard etc etc.
my last tren cycle for example i was sea sick and was throwing up 7 straight hours. i seriously almost died.. i was hoping they would just throw me overboard and let the sharks eat me, no doubt the tren being in my system made things way worse than they would have been otherwise making me more de-hydrated and more feeling like death. my piss was dark orange and it was a horrible experience. i couldn't keep any food or water down at all. atleast on primo or EQ if that happens you don't have to worry about dying on it.
ballslee
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ya dude you don't have to keep using it every time. I am re-trying tren with the Transdermals right now....because i originally had said I will never go back to it. I hated how much my blood pressure would fluctuate and the sides, along with how much more difficult recovery was on it. But i am back on it after about 2 years not taking it and loving it. It def doesnt hurt to try it once because it will probably be your best cycle to date, but I do think there are ways to cycle afterwards to avoid it.
like what steve is saying, i do like to run a more relaxing cycle and let my hard work produce results rather than let the drugs do it all for me. But with that said, it definitely is unrivaled in the body composition changes it creates.
I think you can definitely have great deca/NPP cycles afterwards and love those. I hate EQ but it is another one that sticks out. I find that each steroid does something differnet to me, and you just have to change your goals accordingly. I am not talking the basic cutting/bulking goals....more specific things. Like vascularity, muscle shape, muscle striations, hardness, specific lifting/workout changes, etc. it is obviously good to have the overall bulk/cut goal in a cycle....but to me, going after a bunch of small little goals within the cycle is another must. so just change up your goals based on your cycles and what you know about the AAS you will use in the future. I always wanted to try every single one (of the major steroids)....I have pretty much gotten there besides a few like halo, superdrol, NPP, tren hex, etc. The compounds i have come back to for more than one cycle are: winstrol, anavar, anadrol, tren, deca, EQ, and test.
like what steve is saying, i do like to run a more relaxing cycle and let my hard work produce results rather than let the drugs do it all for me. But with that said, it definitely is unrivaled in the body composition changes it creates.
I think you can definitely have great deca/NPP cycles afterwards and love those. I hate EQ but it is another one that sticks out. I find that each steroid does something differnet to me, and you just have to change your goals accordingly. I am not talking the basic cutting/bulking goals....more specific things. Like vascularity, muscle shape, muscle striations, hardness, specific lifting/workout changes, etc. it is obviously good to have the overall bulk/cut goal in a cycle....but to me, going after a bunch of small little goals within the cycle is another must. so just change up your goals based on your cycles and what you know about the AAS you will use in the future. I always wanted to try every single one (of the major steroids)....I have pretty much gotten there besides a few like halo, superdrol, NPP, tren hex, etc. The compounds i have come back to for more than one cycle are: winstrol, anavar, anadrol, tren, deca, EQ, and test.
Yea Im 38 and have to think tren would be different for me now than if I was 25. I bet I would tolerate it better now actually
as long as you go in with lipids in check i don't see why it would be an issue at all.
This thread makes me wanna run ace again. Ran it about 10 yrs ago(homebrew) and got fucking diced. Lean and strong, but the night sweats were terrible. Back acne like a mofo too.
Tried tren hex last fall and didn't have the same sides. Lower dose and different diet as well.
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Tried tren hex last fall and didn't have the same sides. Lower dose and different diet as well.
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How did you run it 10 years ago? EOD, ED? What dose?
Texas Monster
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Yes you can definately go back..........
Having said that it does not matter what cycle you have ran in the past any new anabolic compound in your body will give you results.
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Like most of the people in here it feels really nice to just sit back and chill on a relaxed EQ cycle or primo or just test.
I am running an EQ cycle right now and love it!!!!!!
Having said that it does not matter what cycle you have ran in the past any new anabolic compound in your body will give you results.
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Like most of the people in here it feels really nice to just sit back and chill on a relaxed EQ cycle or primo or just test.
I am running an EQ cycle right now and love it!!!!!!
76mg EOD at first to see how I would react then bumped it up to ED. Along with Prop and us usually something else. Homebrew days were so cheap I ran that shit every cycle. The last one was what gave me the worst sides with the ED dose.
It truly is an amazing substance. I'd love to use ace again, but don't know about pinning ED ever again. Give it a go man. You get used to the sides. Even if you sleep like shit in a puddle of sweat, you will spring out of bed in the morning, like you just got 8 hrs. LOL
C0LUMB0
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Tren blows everything else away for sure, my future cycles will be based around test/tren.
even on a gram of test i dont feel half as strong as i do on 400mg of tren.
the cough is a scary bastard and that never changes.
my current cycle will probably be my last time using deca and eq...
even on a gram of test i dont feel half as strong as i do on 400mg of tren.
the cough is a scary bastard and that never changes.
my current cycle will probably be my last time using deca and eq...
Gorilla-Pharma
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Can I Tren?
I was joking with my girlfriend and telling her i was gonna run a horse steroid and i would have to sleep in the barn and be fed hay for the next 16 weeks. she found that funny.
i'm looking forward to a nice relaxing cycle. i have about 10 weeks of hex laying in my closet but i am gonna save that for next fall cycle .. just gonna do the EQ with a kickstart and some light test
Gorilla-Pharma
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Steve has a great point there SD...when I was still in the field I was on a tren cycle in summer, and we don't have heat you do but I was installing some 100 gallon water heaters in and felt like I was gonna die....about eod. Lol
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UA_Iron
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I didn't even think about that... Arizona becomes hellish during the summer time too
MattJS
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Tren ace test and winstrol was my best run yet, only side I got was insomnia which I dealt with nicely, I'm on another blast now and making nice gains on weaker compounds, I don't want to rely on the srongest steroid to make gains all the time, especially with the health concerns involved, I'm currently running a lean bulk on low doses of mild gear and pleased with my results so far... I may run tren once or twice a year, that's plenty for me....
lithium1189
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That's my next cycle I got lined up, how much cardio were you able to do if any, wondering cause it's my first bout with tren
Oh fuck I didnt even think of that rob. Im a big time sweater even without anything in my body helping it out. Our summer starts in late april and runs to Early october basically, in central texas.
I think I will swap out the Beast for the tren I have laying around.
Thanks for the excuse to start what I always wanted to try lol
ballslee
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^^ya dude, at least your first time running it try to stay out of the middle of summer. even now may be difficult. i luckily ran it in the winter my first time, and made the consicous decision to never get close to it in the summer time. can't believe i forgot that part about it. although i am not having the problems with heat/sweating right now on the transdermals. i am getting ellivated BP occasionally, which tends to make me hot. but not too bad.
If i started right now I can get away with it but after April forget it, gonna need a bucket for the sweat
Yeah we gotta steer clear of that shit in the summer bro lol.
It's nice today, but give it 3 more weeks and we'll all be dying. I couldn't imagine sweating any more than we already do in August
Yes, you can go back to other compounds and still make gains. Your going to lose some gains no matter what you do if you stay off long enough anyway. The gains won't be as dramatic as tren whether you run them before or after you've ran tren. But they'll still be gains.
Check those lipids before running it though. They'll take a big hit from the tren so you're not going to want to go into it with a bad profile.
Check those lipids before running it though. They'll take a big hit from the tren so you're not going to want to go into it with a bad profile.
