On my road to becoming bodybuilder. First cycle.

[YoungPhil]

Hi everyone.

My father bought me a gym membership when I was 14, and I have been training since that time. I'm 18 right now. He has always guided me, and helped me.
Right now, I'm about 195 lbs and 13% BF. Not too great I know. And as stated in the title I would very much love to become a bodybuilder. I don't have Olympia genetics but still I want to come as far as possible.

It's not a surprise that I am eventually going to need to get on gear. I have been reading a lot and people are always saying from 21-25 years old before starting a cycle. As far as i'm aware the only reason is because of your growth plates are not closed yet. I have also talked with my father. We agreed that I'm strong enough to handle the psychological effects, as I'm not going to run any heavy compounds at first. Only test e.

He has been juicing for years himself, he is just not sure how it will affect an 18 year old boy. As he started when he was 29.

My questions are:

1) Can I go to the doctor and check if my plates have closed yet?
2) If they have closed how bad can my cycle of 12 weeks of test e end?

As stated I would love to become a bodybuilder, but if it means a sterile life and on TRT till i die, I rather wait.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Steroids will rot ur kdneys kill ur liver give u cancer damage ur brain give u acne and u will die dont pump trouble son! Keep it average.

Please don't don't make silly sarcastic posts about a serious subject.

Bottom line, if the OP is serious about being a bodybuilder, cycling now will slow down results in the long run. Keep making as much progress naturally as you can. You have another 5-6 years before you peak.

 

[YoungPhil]

Please don't don't make silly sarcastic posts about a serious subject.

Bottom line, if the OP is serious about being a bodybuilder, cycling now will slow down results in the long run. Keep making as much progress naturally as you can. You have another 5-6 years before you peak.

Thank you a lot sir, for serious answer.
I just feel like I'm running out of time, considering how Lee Priest looked young.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ you are running out of time? i know life ends at 20 bro.

you can't be serious here. 18 you haven't even busted your first nut yet and you want to use steroids?

 

[Crazy Barbarian]

Bro im 19 and I wanted to do steroids and jump on a cycle because if you have the same aspiration for weightlifting and muscle building you want to do steroids its just heaven to all of us on these forums , but you have to step outside of our little weighttraining world and realize at our age were not even near what our genetics can take us to genetically ynless your a short person 5'9 and under your no where ready for roids bro... maybe when your 230-240 you can start thinking about It but.until then man you really dont want to hinder your test for the rest of your life,.imagine a cocktail drink of hormones in your body right now, adding even a low dose of 400mg of test e a week is going to jack you up... if you weight until your 25 then hop on them its going to be better long term exspecially if you really want to compete in bodybuilding.

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[kubes]

You can continue to grow natty for a long time bro. Your hormone levels are at they peek right now and your endocrine system is more than likely not fully developed. You don't want to risk damaging your endocrine system. Continue to tweak your nutrition and you will continue to grow for several years if your training is on par. I wish I would have started at your age!!

 

[-SD-]

Well damn Im 38 and just got back into cycling after dabbling in it 12 years ago so I guess I may as well put myself in a nursing home LOL

And for fuck sake everyone quit comparing yourselves to Lee Priest. Or Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie, Jay, etc etc.

You aint like them. You aint never gonna be like them. So quit using them as the benchmark for where you should be.

I swear its like everyone is in junior high and started playing football and youre all worried about making the Pro Football Hall of Fame and winning 3 super bowls.

 

[-SD-]

Bro im 19 and I wanted to do steroids and jump on a cycle because if you have the same aspiration for weightlifting and muscle building you want to do steroids its just heaven to all of us on these forums , but you have to step outside of our little weighttraining world and realize at our age were not even near what our genetics can take us to genetically ynless your a short person 5'9 and under your no where ready for roids bro... maybe when your 230-240 you can start thinking about It but.until then man you really dont want to hinder your test for the rest of your life,.imagine a cocktail drink of hormones in your body right now, adding even a low dose of 400mg of test e a week is going to jack you up... if you weight until your 25 then hop on them its going to be better long term exspecially if you really want to compete in bodybuilding.

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Im gonna tell you straight up anyone who said cycling was just heaven and a piece of cake is wrong. This shit is hard work, hard on the body, and EXPENSIVE. If you cycle right you are going to be laying out a lot of money. The right food, supplements, roids all cost a lot of money. Health risks, injury risks, hormone swings, post cycle issues, sexual sides, mood swings, injection schedules, the list is endless. Im telling you it isnt just as easy as putting a needle in your ass, sitting back, and watching yourself turn into IFBB Pro after a year or so LOL.

 

[defcon-1]

Please don't don't make silly sarcastic posts about a serious subject.

Bottom line, if the OP is serious about being a bodybuilder, cycling now will slow down results in the long run. Keep making as much progress naturally as you can. You have another 5-6 years before you peak.

I agree 100%. The more muscle you have naturally the better gear will work.

 

[RADAR]

I spent 20 yrs building a good foundation before touching anything (yeah i have over 40 yrs in this field) so your running out of time is laughable. Smarten up and do it right or not at all.
Not trying to be sarcastic just telling it like it is.

 

[YoungPhil]

Thanks a lot guys, I'm a responsible guy. I'm the type of guy who is fast developed, most people think I'm 23-26 years old. Fully grown beard, finished with puberty at young age. But this of course does not justify juicing at young age. I'm going to wait till i'm at least 22 years old, and then check with a doctor if my endocrine system if fully developed (If it's possible to check). Until that time i'm just going to train and read more about this stuff.

 

[-SD-]

Thanks a lot guys, I'm a responsible guy. I'm the type of guy who is fast developed, most people think I'm 23-26 years old. Fully grown beard, finished with puberty at young age. But this of course does not justify juicing at young age. I'm going to wait till i'm at least 22 years old, and then check with a doctor if my endocrine system if fully developed (If it's possible to check). Until that time i'm just going to train and read more about this stuff.

You cant check to see if your endocrine system is stabilized or not when youre young. You just have to wait until you know it is based on age. In your case its mid-20's.

 

[Crazy Barbarian]

Lol never once said it was cake asshole... its heaven and idc what you say yes dedication plays a role but when you have 1000 times normal test your bound to get results from natty training even if they are small gains still its still more then you would when not on cycle so stop being a douche bag and stfu mr know it all

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[Jbranken]

Lol never once said it was cake asshole... its heaven and idc what you say yes dedication plays a role but when you have 1000 times normal test your bound to get results from natty training even if they are small gains still its still more then you would when not on cycle so stop being a douche bag and stfu mr know it all

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SD wasn't even attacking you, just making a point. They're trying to steer this guy a certain direction and you're not helping. Be respectful.

 

[ledhead]

Im gonna tell you straight up anyone who said cycling was just heaven and a piece of cake is wrong. This shit is hard work, hard on the body, and EXPENSIVE. If you cycle right you are going to be laying out a lot of money. The right food, supplements, roids all cost a lot of money. Health risks, injury risks, hormone swings, post cycle issues, sexual sides, mood swings, injection schedules, the list is endless. Im telling you it isnt just as easy as putting a needle in your ass, sitting back, and watching yourself turn into IFBB Pro after a year or so LOL.

Nice post, Dave!

 

[-SD-]

Lol never once said it was cake asshole... its heaven and idc what you say yes dedication plays a role but when you have 1000 times normal test your bound to get results from natty training even if they are small gains still its still more then you would when not on cycle so stop being a douche bag and stfu mr know it all

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If its "just heaven" doing something then that usually means its a lot of fun and not terribly difficult. You cant have a 1000 times normal test and train natty. So why dont you STFU while the grown ups are talking here.

 

[stevesmi]

Lol never once said it was cake asshole... its heaven and idc what you say yes dedication plays a role but when you have 1000 times normal test your bound to get results from natty training even if they are small gains still its still more then you would when not on cycle so stop being a douche bag and stfu mr know it all

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yeah bro we don't talk like that to each other on here.

the guy wasn't attacking you, its obvious you are defensive for no reason like a badger who is cornered.. chill out or we will show you the door..

and at 19 you shouldn't be posting on here anyway, stick to the sub forums of the site.. this is AAS forum and its only for 21+ years old.

 

[jcroc23]

This is ridiculous. I read the rules but the question has yet to be answered in regards to why 18 year olds shouldn't run a cycle due to our age. How is 18 “too young”… can you please validate this claim? From what I can tell thus far the “age” argument is purely bias, there is no proof to back up the claim that running a cycle at 26 versus 18 would be more optimal (as far as I've read), other than "risk of damaging endocrine system" but there's a risk with just about everything you do related to bodybuilding. So regardless of if my levels are peaking, that is nothing compared to 300-400 mg of test per week! If you're not going to help plan out a cycle then please explain the aforementioned and provide more evidence.

 

[hulkamainia 119]

This is ridiculous. I read the rules but the question has yet to be answered in regards to why 18 year olds shouldn't run a cycle due to our age. How is 18 “too young”… can you please validate this claim? From what I can tell thus far the “age” argument is purely bias, there is no proof to back up the claim that running a cycle at 26 versus 18 would be more optimal (as far as I've read), other than "risk of damaging endocrine system" but there's a risk with just about everything you do related to bodybuilding. So regardless of if my levels are peaking, that is nothing compared to 300-400 mg of test per week! If you're not going to help plan out a cycle then please explain the aforementioned and provide more evidence.

Because you'll abuse them like your abusing the people on this site, now please change your attitude into a pleasant one or leave the site.

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[jcroc23]

Because you'll abuse them like your abusing the people on this site, now please change your attitude into a pleasant one or leave the site.

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it's arguments like these that further prove my point. My attitude was harmless and straightforward, I'm only looking for info and I didn't call anyone out. The chances of me abusing steroids is just as equal to yours, so that argument is invalid. I've never been addicted to a drug so I'm not worried about that. Can someone please provide a real argument backed with evidence?

 

[hulkamainia 119]

it's arguments like these that further prove my point. My attitude was harmless and straightforward, I'm only looking for info and I didn't call anyone out. The chances of me abusing steroids is just as equal to yours, so that argument is invalid. I've never been addicted to a drug nor do i plan to be.

Haha the rules on this site are no AAS talk for anyone under 21, this site gets threads like this everyday and we all tell them the same answer your getting NO. so your proving my point in not researching anything. Good luck with your future BBing lol

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[Jbranken]

Look if you want studies, google it. You don't need us for that. The fact of the matter is this is more of a moral dilemma than anything. You're young and don't have your life figured out like you think you do! You'll want this today and something else at 25. We think young guys should utilize high natural test levels and use steroids later. You don't have it all figured out the way you think you do. I know it's hard to grasp that concept when you already think you're all-knowing, but its true. It's about life choices and maturity. If bodybuilding is still what you want in your mid 20's, then by all means this is your next step--taking it all to the next level. But you have the hormones to take it to the next level right now! You underestimate the potential of a hormone rich man like yourself. You won't get help from anyone here any further than talking you out of it. That's coming from the new guys and the vets. Maybe that should tell you something.

 

[John McLane]

it's arguments like these that further prove my point. My attitude was harmless and straightforward, I'm only looking for info and I didn't call anyone out. The chances of me abusing steroids is just as equal to yours, so that argument is invalid. I've never been addicted to a drug so I'm not worried about that. Can someone please provide a real argument backed with evidence?

The poster you are talking about is not a teenager. Not being addicted to a drug in the past is irrelevant. Listen to what the other posters are saying - your chocked full of test due to your age, no need for roids as they will muck up your own hormonal system, making things very difficult for you in the future. Eat loads, use creatine and maybe the odd pre-workout and you will be fine

 

[RickRock13]

LOL@ "running out of time" at 19. I trained naturally and built a good foundation for nearly 20 years before touching gear for the first time at 35.

You have a lot of natural growing and learning to do before ever going near the shit

 

[Labtec70]

Hi Phil

Listen mate...Nobody is saying they don't want you to succeed as a bodybuilder, in fact, they're saying quite the opposite!
Okay, so risks and arguments aside for the moment. Let's say okay, it's fine to use steroids at 18 or 19 years old and you should go for it. And you've decided to do your cycle and then another, and then another, until you've done 5 or 6 cycles before your 21st birthday. So now you've put on 30Ibs of muscle and you're very happy and all that. So, what next???

You're 21 and you've done spent more of your lifting time (three years) using drugs than time you spent training naturally. What is your next big step to get bigger?
Don't forget, that unless you decide to go for much bigger doses of harsher drugs there's nowhere to really go from here-on. So at 21 you've decided the only thing to do is either quit because you've gone as far as you can go anyway, at great cost to your young and natural health...or...you can go that bit further than anyone else has been and put all your chips on incredibly large and expensive doses of the most potent (and the most side-effects) drugs available: Dianabol, Anadrol, Winstrol, Trenbalone, NPP, and massive amounts of Growth Hormone.

Now at 21, you've almost made your decision then along comes a girl in your life. This girl sweeps you off your feet and training all of a sudden takes a back seat. You've fallen in love and decided this is the girl you want to spend the rest of your life with. Before long, times has flown by and your married, and about to take the big leap into fatherhood. Well, that was the plan...

Unfortunately, you've spent more time in the bedroom of the last two years than you have in the gym. Why?
Well, because you're trying to get your wife pregnant but it's not happened. Somethings very wrong!

Bottom line: Your doctor says the years of steroid abuse at such a tender age has caused your testicles to shut down and no amount of HCG or other drugs is going to get your sack firing I'm afraid. You are sterile. You cannot have children.

There's so many reasons not to do AAS at your age, but unfortunately this is more commonly becoming a lesson learned in hindsight rather than prediligence.

Nobody is saying don't use AAS. They are just saying: Not yet!

We hope you use all the other avenues first: Nutritional supplements, testosterone boosters, good and varied training, rest and good food.

Craig

 

[robph]

at 18 is too young bro, i would wait until 21 at least.

 

[RADAR]

This is ridiculous. I read the rules but the question has yet to be answered in regards to why 18 year olds shouldn't run a cycle due to our age. How is 18 “too young”… can you please validate this claim? From what I can tell thus far the “age” argument is purely bias, there is no proof to back up the claim that running a cycle at 26 versus 18 would be more optimal (as far as I've read), other than "risk of damaging endocrine system" but there's a risk with just about everything you do related to bodybuilding. So regardless of if my levels are peaking, that is nothing compared to 300-400 mg of test per week! If you're not going to help plan out a cycle then please explain the aforementioned and provide more evidence.

Because at that age your body is producing peak levels of Test and Growth hormones this is what helps you mature into manhood, shutting these off at an early age can complicate you as you get older, dimishing your bodys ability to produce optimun amounts of Test and GH leading you to become dependent on HRT for life and reducing your sperm count.
And for your information i work at a hospital and see this stuff every week.

 

[Ox-Sandra-Loan]

This is ridiculous. I read the rules but the question has yet to be answered in regards to why 18 year olds shouldn't run a cycle due to our age. How is 18 “too young”… can you please validate this claim? From what I can tell thus far the “age” argument is purely bias, there is no proof to back up the claim that running a cycle at 26 versus 18 would be more optimal (as far as I've read), other than "risk of damaging endocrine system" but there's a risk with just about everything you do related to bodybuilding. So regardless of if my levels are peaking, that is nothing compared to 300-400 mg of test per week! If you're not going to help plan out a cycle then please explain the aforementioned and provide more evidence.

More evidence?....see your most recent thread for some good evidence.

 

[bulkbeef]

Hey Phil you should train naturally to strengthen your mental strength instead of body, being able to resist such a strong temptation will ready you to endure the hardcore training that is needed while on AAS.