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On average, a test only cycle = how long doing it natural?

This is a question that cannot be answered generically. It all depends on your own genetics, diet, supplementation and training regimen.
 
This guy. Dude, eat right lift right and you'll put on 10 lbs in 8 weeks... that's more than most of us hope to gain in 8 weeks

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Man, you don't even know how fast you will grow naturally being at your age/stage. When I was where you are I lived in Israel, not having access even to protein powder or creatine so I had to eat twice as much as I'd probably would otherwise and my arms grew like my boner does watching Tomb Raider!

My point is, the first years of working out you grow sooo much since your body isn't familiar with that kind of hardcore activity. You probably will grow less if you take steroids now cuz you will psychologically rely on that and your diet and training will suffer.
 
well atleast this kid put up pics.. but i bet there are thousands of guys out there in his boat (not even considering the stomach problem he has) which want to juice.

now some of you who criticize mods for wanting to know stats and wanting guys to have bases know why we are so tough on them. and not even considering those guys never put up pics so they could look even worse.

atleast this kid is honest and admits he never worked out before as we can all see from his lack of base, however i do give him props for his honesty.. now if he would only listen then he would get full respect from me.. not just 25% respect

I guarantee half the guys here were no bigger than that when they started. 90% people talk a good game but would never let people see what they really look like. Either skinny like this kid or 40% body fat. So yeah, good for him for actually being a man and posting pics. I did the same thing when I was going to start my first cycle, I had more of a base but people still shot me down and talked sense into me and Im glad they did because I wasnt ready
 
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