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On average, a test only cycle = how long doing it natural?
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Texas Monster
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You guys didnt understand the question.
He is not asking is it ok to start juicing and doing a test only cycle after a year of natural training.
He is asking are the gains made from a test only cycle equivalent to those training naturally for a year.
To answer your question it all depends on the person. Some people have shitty diet and training and only gain a couple of pounds which they could of done naturally. Other people put on a good amount of weight say 12 pounds of muscle with pct. This corresponds to roughly a year or so training naturally.
He is not asking is it ok to start juicing and doing a test only cycle after a year of natural training.
He is asking are the gains made from a test only cycle equivalent to those training naturally for a year.
To answer your question it all depends on the person. Some people have shitty diet and training and only gain a couple of pounds which they could of done naturally. Other people put on a good amount of weight say 12 pounds of muscle with pct. This corresponds to roughly a year or so training naturally.
you missed his thread from a week ago. the guy has a major problem with his stomach, its like bulging like he is pregnant. IMO he either has a major blockage or he has a stomach growth.
basically he thinks if he runs juice he will get a short cut and his body will get transformed. thats the crux of his question.
everyone urged him to get his stomach checked but he refuses to do it for some reason. and its very troubling to me.. i can't believe a family member hasn't urged him to get treatment
Natural training always brings more solid results. But it's harder.
^^^ yes i saw the updated pic and its better.. but the problem is still there.
oh well I'm glad you atleast took my advice to do a detox.. see what happens when you listen to me? now if only you would take my other advice you would be set
1. get the stomach checked out because you still have a blockage IMO
2. train natty for the next 2 years minimum
3. get the idea of steroids out of your head, you aren't even close to ready
oh well I'm glad you atleast took my advice to do a detox.. see what happens when you listen to me? now if only you would take my other advice you would be set
1. get the stomach checked out because you still have a blockage IMO
2. train natty for the next 2 years minimum
3. get the idea of steroids out of your head, you aren't even close to ready
RADAR
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Lets see the pic, I find it hard to believe that problem you had for years miraculously disappeared.
have to hit 25 posts
mr.enthate
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Looks better but still there is something wrong ... Don't touch any gear man your not even close to being ready you have to natural muscle what so ever my little step sister who is 15 and thin has bigger arms then you don't be stupid train hard and eat healthy but big NATURAL for atleast 3-4 years
Headholio
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I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Headholio
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You are feckin skinny kid. You don't need roids you need weights. Where do you want to be in 10 years? You'll be a lot more likely to maintain a muscular healthy physique if you build some muscle naturally and the work ethic that goes along with it. If you can't get into making exercise a part of your life, there is not sense in doing roids. you'll mess your self up for a few weeks of minor gains, and end up worse in the long run.
In my opinion, if you can train for a year and make significant gains, then you don't need juice. Juice is for people who have topped out and can work super hard but still only maintain.
With your body, you could make huge gains in 1 year of a good program and dedication. If you don't want to do that then GTFO!
In my opinion, if you can train for a year and make significant gains, then you don't need juice. Juice is for people who have topped out and can work super hard but still only maintain.
With your body, you could make huge gains in 1 year of a good program and dedication. If you don't want to do that then GTFO!
well atleast this kid put up pics.. but i bet there are thousands of guys out there in his boat (not even considering the stomach problem he has) which want to juice.
now some of you who criticize mods for wanting to know stats and wanting guys to have bases know why we are so tough on them. and not even considering those guys never put up pics so they could look even worse.
atleast this kid is honest and admits he never worked out before as we can all see from his lack of base, however i do give him props for his honesty.. now if he would only listen then he would get full respect from me.. not just 25% respect
now some of you who criticize mods for wanting to know stats and wanting guys to have bases know why we are so tough on them. and not even considering those guys never put up pics so they could look even worse.
atleast this kid is honest and admits he never worked out before as we can all see from his lack of base, however i do give him props for his honesty.. now if he would only listen then he would get full respect from me.. not just 25% respect
Texas Monster
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Oh yeah I remember this kids post now.
The I just started lifting for 2 weeks now I am ready for a test only cycle. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Listen to Steve. Do not juice. Lift naturally to build a very strong base. Because when you come off the juice you gotta to keep lifting and if you do not have a base it will be very hard to keep any of your gains ( if you get any gains at all, gotta have sound training and diet to see good results.)
The I just started lifting for 2 weeks now I am ready for a test only cycle. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Listen to Steve. Do not juice. Lift naturally to build a very strong base. Because when you come off the juice you gotta to keep lifting and if you do not have a base it will be very hard to keep any of your gains ( if you get any gains at all, gotta have sound training and diet to see good results.)
Lighter Fighter
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Not tryingg to be a dick but, What in the hell are you even doing on a steroid forum looking like that, idk if its a disease or something but bro forget steroid and think creatine..
^This exactly
RacaTwister
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Man, you don't even know how fast you will grow naturally being at your age/stage. When I was where you are I lived in Israel, not having access even to protein powder or creatine so I had to eat twice as much as I'd probably would otherwise and my arms grew like my boner does watching Tomb Raider!
My point is, the first years of working out you grow sooo much since your body isn't familiar with that kind of hardcore activity. You probably will grow less if you take steroids now cuz you will psychologically rely on that and your diet and training will suffer.
My point is, the first years of working out you grow sooo much since your body isn't familiar with that kind of hardcore activity. You probably will grow less if you take steroids now cuz you will psychologically rely on that and your diet and training will suffer.
I guarantee half the guys here were no bigger than that when they started. 90% people talk a good game but would never let people see what they really look like. Either skinny like this kid or 40% body fat. So yeah, good for him for actually being a man and posting pics. I did the same thing when I was going to start my first cycle, I had more of a base but people still shot me down and talked sense into me and Im glad they did because I wasnt ready
Headholio
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