old school

[littleb]

I know times change, and new and better compounds come about but I have always used clomid and nolva for pct with lab test backed good results, then along came hcg, tried it and fell in love, pct results came back better and faster... for the record all cycles test based... The fact that so many are now saying that nolva and clomid is a useless pct blows my mind,,,, I have a "few" cycles under my belt and that has been my only pct along with otc supps with great recovery.. that pct has been used for mannnyyyy yrs with great results by many bodybuilders..Just curious as to how many old school guys use the time tested pct as oppossed to the new rave? I have been on for over 6 mos and recovered great with clomid nolva and some hcg,,, share what you take and your recovery... me i always go to my bread and butter..

 

[All In a Year]

I don't think most people here are saying those drugs don't work... It's more like there are alternative natural supplements now that work just as well but with out all the shitty side effects of nolva and clomid.

I personally will never use nolva again... Hate that shit. Caused major depression and absolutely no libido for me.

Clomid on the other hand I personally dont experience any sides from it, that I know of... So I still use a low dose of clomid along with the "new age" pct.

 

[All In a Year]

Plus, nolva and clomid were not created or designed for a "post cycle therapy" for steroid use. Any test boosting they do is all "side effects" of nolva and clomid. They are fertility drugs.

All the newer natural supplements are created and designed for one purpose. Recovery and natural test boosting after a steroid cycle.

 

[All In a Year]

Sorry for the triple post... But I personally don't like the idea of forcing more DRUGS into my body after I've been on drugs (steroids) for 8-12 weeks... PCT should be a time to get the drugs out of your body and recover.

 

[All In a Year]

But I'm no expert by any means lol... Just my personal take on this discussion, based off of personal experiences.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

I hate the way nolva makes me feel, Bro. I have used natty supps from our sponsors to recover and I feel great the whole PCT and keep almost all of my gains. I would highly recommend it. Hit me up with a PM if you ever have any questions about them.

 

[dylangemelli]

thats the beauty of new eras, technology, etc... new things do come along that are better than old ways... i still use torem but there are new ways to produce recovery besides the old ways... products like unleashed and forged pct and hcgenerate are absolutely wonderful and help recovery in a tremendous way... things and times change and newer and better ways come about in all things in life... we are very lucky for this!

 

[RADAR]

But I'm no expert by any means lol... Just my personal take on this discussion, based off of personal experiences.

But! your posts are expert real life situations

 

[AV Cypress]

thats the beauty of new eras, technology, etc... new things do come along that are better than old ways... i still use torem but there are new ways to produce recovery besides the old ways... products like unleashed and forged pct and hcgenerate are absolutely wonderful and help recovery in a tremendous way... things and times change and newer and better ways come about in all things in life... we are very lucky for this!

I agree that there might be knew and effective products to use during pct, however, hcg is awesome and has been very effective for a looooong time. I think it's a must as well as clomid. The products that you speek of may be very effective as well and one day I may try them, but I will deffinetly have hcg on hand at all times in case the "new era" stuff doesn't cut.

 

[Judo Tom]

ive tried it all for pct

clomid only
nolva only
clomid and nolva
mixed in hcg w/ both of those
hcg only
nothing at all

honestly i got to a point where i would just run some adex post cycle to avoid estrogen rebound.... that was the best i could come up w/ and i had a huge stack of blood work to back up what worked for me

i based my recovery on how long it took me to get back to 80% of my natural test/free test levels while getting estrogen low.

unleashed and forma is the best combo in my experience. unleashed gets your free test levels up quickly.. very quickly and makes you feel good.