Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE READ

[plus44racer182]

Okay so it all started when I though i knew it all/ better and decided to run a ten ace stand alone cycle that was supposed to last roughly 12 weeks. I ran anywhere from 50 to 75 mg ED for maybe 7 weeks before realizing the horrors of a stand alone tren cycle. Main one being horrid emotional and depression issues. Yeah I was dry as Fuck but felt terrible. So I added prop around the seventh week mark at 75mg ed/ 50 mg ed of the tren ace. I ran that for about 3 weeks then my source was like hey I have this blend that is legit and is way cheaper then buying them separate, its 75mg prop 50 mg tren Ace 50 mg Mast per ml. SO i bought that ran it at 1 ml (or CC) a day and was like HOLY SHIT felt an amazing sense of well being again and was drying out as long as my diet was in check and just feeling awesome now I'm entering my 16th or so week still seeing nice benefits and feeling really good I just want to know how fucked or if at all I'll be Post cycle I have Nolva HCG and all that for my pct so I can hop off at any moment.

So My real question is to be honest lay it on me your thoughts and opinions on my cycle.

I will not be cycling again it was amazing but I just don't see the point. My results have been 205 at 15% BF now I am 185 at around 9% great abs chest is getting nicely defined I have gone up in strength I went from zero vascularity to uber vascular.

Its just so hard to come off knowing I will FOR SURE never run another cycle again (for personal reasons) as well.....

 

[mookymonkey]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

i had a hard time with tren also the last go around. couple more weeks shouldn't hurt at this point. im not a big fan of blends though. like to know exactly what im shooting.....

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

nothing wrong with tren alone if you know what you are doing.

first off you need to be running caber/prami while on... second off you need to limit tren to 6 weeks only. then cycle off.

how messed up will you be running tren as long as you ran it? pretty messed up. i would read the link in my sig and get yourself a strong PCT lined up and if you aren't already on it i would get on hcgenerate and hcg as a kickstart immediately

 

[Judo Tom]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

stop the damn tren now.. id go on just test for a bit. it sux but id stay on test only while the tren clears and you can let your body adjust to just the test. start caber ASAP after about 4 weeks of that it should have your levels in check a bit and I would start 4-6 weeks of hcg. after that I would start a pct.

its gonna be a tough recovery but id rather get the tren out of the way get my blood levels back to a decent range then start pct.

hope that makes sense.

 

[Arabian]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

stop the damn tren now.. id go on just test for a bit. it sux but id stay on test only while the tren clears and you can let your body adjust to just the test. start caber ASAP after about 4 weeks of that it should have your levels in check a bit and I would start 4-6 weeks of hcg. after that I would start a pct.

its gonna be a tough recovery but id rather get the tren out of the way get my blood levels back to a decent range then start pct.

hope that makes sense.

Tom and Steve have your best advice! I ran tren for 18 weeks however I ran it with Test and never had any issues! Not sure I would have run it as a stand alone! Listen when you do your PCT look into some N2Guard and HCGenerate while on, Unleashed and Post Cycle for PCT and BRIDGE for afterwards.

 

[UA_Iron]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

I'd continue the test and the masteron till week 20 then come off.

You probably won't need any anti-progesterone anti-prolactin drugs in my opinion. What was making you feel so shitty was the tren alone and the fact it was suppressing your natural testosterone (and not filling all the roles of testosterone) and the progestin sides of the tren (it makes you feel shitty, people report this on deca quite often).

Masteron and prop will be a good blend to run as masteron has mild anti-e properties and will bind to the progestins.

PCT you should definitely run HCG and something like aromasin and whatever herbals these other guys recommend.

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

and also run bloods to gage where you are at during recovery. that will give you a blueprint.

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

thanks a lot everyone for your responses I can say I feel a lot better now that I have read these replies I think I'll just run prop at 75mg ed I know for a fact I need cabaser cause I'm taking adex and my nipples are just a lil sensitive still so its def proaction related. thanks again and keep the responses coming!!!!

 

[Judo Tom]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

cool!

Good Luck

 

[murderman]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

nothing wrong with tren alone if you know what you are doing.

first off you need to be running caber/prami while on... second off you need to limit tren to 6 weeks only. then cycle off.

how messed up will you be running tren as long as you ran it? pretty messed up. i would read the link in my sig and get yourself a strong PCT lined up and if you aren't already on it i would get on hcgenerate and hcg as a kickstart immediately

I think this is the first time I ever seen someone with status say that, Thank you. I love my tren only HCGen cycle.

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

SO this is what I'm thinking Run test p and Mast at 75/75 ed for 2.5-3 weeks along with hcg dosed accordingly and then start PCT with nova and hcgenerate finish with bridge? thanks I was planning on just using hcg and nolva for recovery but some of those products although over priced are good ones so I'll be adding em in my pct and probably add bridge to my regular supp regime

 

[Judo Tom]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

id run just test for a bit.. longer then 2.5-3 weeks.. like 4-8 at least

let the tren and its effects leave your body and normalize

id start formastanzol or caber ASAP

I would also beg or borrow more money for pct and INVEST in it full bore. Id probably run an 8 week pct and you dont want to run nolva after a tren cycle..

read up on pct steves sig has a great thread and nelson has good points as well.. but you need to learn about pct for tren/deca cycles.

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

id run just test for a bit.. longer then 2.5-3 weeks.. like 4-8 at least

let the tren and its effects leave your body and normalize

id start formastanzol or caber ASAP

I would also beg or borrow more money for pct and INVEST in it full bore. Id probably run an 8 week pct and you dont want to run nolva after a tren cycle..

read up on pct steves sig has a great thread and nelson has good points as well.. but you need to learn about pct for tren/deca cycles.

okay honestly I have money about 800 dollars set aside for my supplements and pct So I will be able to buy anything and everything needed to run a proper pct. I will buy everything recommended to normalize. NONE of my sources has caber on hand though which sucks BIG TIME. i started taking high doses of b-6 for the time being I had my last pin of 50 mg of tren about three days ago..... I still have the night sweats but the cramps are lessening and my cardio is going up. Right now I have 9 ccs of sus 250 20 ccs of prop at 100mg/cc(ml) and 20 ccs of masteron dosed at 150 mg/cc(ml) so I will definitely be running the test and mast for the duration of it till I feel I am normalizing then I will do an extensive PCT. I will take any and all recommendations to heart and really appreciate it guys this has been a learning experience and honestly the results were amazing and everything I just wish I had taken things more serious and honest to god never ran the tren.......

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

okay honestly I have money about 800 dollars set aside for my supplements and pct So I will be able to buy anything and everything needed to run a proper pct. I will buy everything recommended to normalize. NONE of my sources has caber on hand though which sucks BIG TIME. i started taking high doses of b-6 for the time being I had my last pin of 50 mg of tren about three days ago..... I still have the night sweats but the cramps are lessening and my cardio is going up. Right now I have 9 ccs of sus 250 20 ccs of prop at 100mg/cc(ml) and 20 ccs of masteron dosed at 150 mg/cc(ml) so I will definitely be running the test and mast for the duration of it till I feel I am normalizing then I will do an extensive PCT. I will take any and all recommendations to heart and really appreciate it guys this has been a learning experience and honestly the results were amazing and everything I just wish I had taken things more serious and honest to god never ran the tren.......

no help ? lol

**UPDATE**

running prop 50 mg ed mast 100mg ed have winny on hand but fuck that maybe at the end? I also had some sust 250 so I was doing 1 cc ew of that with the prop just did last cc of sust250 and will be continuing prop at 50 mg ed with mast 100mg ed and forma stanzol any input guys thanks !!!

 

[Donnie Darko]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

Your original question is whether we thought your cycle was right or not? Could you post each segment of your cycle and when you started each part of it? You started with tren acetate only for so many weeks, then you introduced test prop at week 6 I think, and then you introduced a blend of tren acetate, test prop, and masteron at some point. Could you post a break-down a little bit better? It sounds like the results of the end cycle was pretty good. Could you also post your PCT as well? I'm looking for an easy format like:

Week 1-6: Tren Acetate so many mg/ml per day, etc...
Week 6-?: Tren Acetate and Test Prop mg/mL per day, etc...
Week ?-?: Blend each mg/mL per day, etc...
PCT weeks each mg/mL or mg/day, etc....

It just makes it easier for me to read.

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

Your original question is whether we thought your cycle was right or not? Could you post each segment of your cycle and when you started each part of it? You started with tren acetate only for so many weeks, then you introduced test prop at week 6 I think, and then you introduced a blend of tren acetate, test prop, and masteron at some point. Could you post a break-down a little bit better? It sounds like the results of the end cycle was pretty good. Could you also post your PCT as well? I'm looking for an easy format like:

Week 1-6: Tren Acetate so many mg/ml per day, etc...
Week 6-?: Tren Acetate and Test Prop mg/mL per day, etc...
Week ?-?: Blend each mg/mL per day, etc...
PCT weeks each mg/mL or mg/day, etc....

It just makes it easier for me to read.

Okay to break it down and these are approx


Week 1-6: Tren Acetate 50mg ed
Week 6-8ish: Tren Acetate between 50-75mg ed I experimented and Test Prop always 75mg ed
Week 9-16: Blend 75prop/50 tren ace/50mast ed
16-18 1CC of sust 250 ew on monday 50mg prop ed 100mg mast ed
now 18+prop 50mg ed maybe more if you all suggest more and 100mg mast ed
starting hcg I believe next week and been on formastanzol/b6 600 mg ed
PCT is what I want the most advice on right now week one hcg/nolva/a hoard of argentine/bcaa/multi/forma maybe 20-30mg winny in the am I have heard it it good to recover from long ass cycles

and yes the results have been physique altering to a large degree.

I have the ability to obtain any AAS blend I want because a really close friend of mine home-brews everything I was kinda considering a sus 400 instead of the prop e3d because its 100mg prop 150cyp 150enen I just noticed after a few weeks of that one sust shot I had more mild acne and bloat then prop alone but the pain of the prop and ed shots for 20 weeks is a bit of a bitch , my guy just gave me a free bottle of winny that was dosed at 150mg/ml and its super fucking strong it just crashes really easily and I have to cook it to use it lol

 

[Donnie Darko]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

Okay to break it down and these are approx


Week 1-6: Tren Acetate 50mg ed
Week 6-8ish: Tren Acetate between 50-75mg ed I experimented and Test Prop always 75mg ed
Week 9-16: Blend 75prop/50 tren ace/50mast ed
16-18 1CC of sust 250 ew on monday 50mg prop ed 100mg mast ed
now 18+prop 50mg ed maybe more if you all suggest more and 100mg mast ed
starting hcg I believe next week and been on formastanzol/b6 600 mg ed
PCT is what I want the most advice on right now week one hcg/nolva/a hoard of argentine/bcaa/multi/forma maybe 20-30mg winny in the am I have heard it it good to recover from long ass cycles

and yes the results have been physique altering to a large degree.

I have the ability to obtain any AAS blend I want because a really close friend of mine home-brews everything I was kinda considering a sus 400 instead of the prop e3d because its 100mg prop 150cyp 150enen I just noticed after a few weeks of that one sust shot I had more mild acne and bloat then prop alone but the pain of the prop and ed shots for 20 weeks is a bit of a bitch , my guy just gave me a free bottle of winny that was dosed at 150mg/ml and its super fucking strong it just crashes really easily and I have to cook it to use it lol

Right now it sounds like you are still sitting on the fence with your friend who can provide you with more stuff. And, yes, prop can make you limp pretty good. Personally I would say to not do another cycle for a while and hopefully your friend will understand. A PCT cycle can consist of HCG, tamoxifene, and clomiphene citrate. There are guys here that are far smarter than me on PCT since I have never done much PCT other than Nolvadex and Clomiphene citrate. I have done the HCG during cycle however, but that doesn't help much. I tried Cytadren 250 once....ONCE.

 

[plus44racer182]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

should I just cut the mast to 50 ed the prop to 50ed and run oral winny at 50 ed? I know two dht's..... lol

 

[Judo Tom]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

stop the damn tren now.. id go on just test for a bit. it sux but id stay on test only while the tren clears and you can let your body adjust to just the test. start caber ASAP after about 4 weeks of that it should have your levels in check a bit and I would start 4-6 weeks of hcg. after that I would start a pct.

its gonna be a tough recovery but id rather get the tren out of the way get my blood levels back to a decent range then start pct.

hope that makes sense.

you shouldve done this a month ago....

you are just prolonging a cycle and you are making recovery harder with every day you stay on.

i hope you have a boatload of $$$$$ to spend on pct.

you should probably run an aggressive 8 week pct at this point. you are going to need all the tools in the toolbox for this one.

when do you plan to go off completely? and what do you plan on running for pct?

 

[zwhit]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

Better have a lot of HCG and clomid on hand for PCT

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Re: Okay been dreading asking this but 20 week cycle just break it to me!!!!! PLEASE

id run just test for a bit.. longer then 2.5-3 weeks.. like 4-8 at least

let the tren and its effects leave your body and normalize

id start formastanzol or caber ASAP

I would also beg or borrow more money for pct and INVEST in it full bore. Id probably run an 8 week pct and you dont want to run nolva after a tren cycle..

read up on pct steves sig has a great thread and nelson has good points as well.. but you need to learn about pct for tren/deca cycles.

This is the best advice I have seen in this thread thus far. Run that test bro. Caber is a must at this point. Do not EVER run Nolva with Tren bro. I LOVE Tren. I have run numerous cycles with Tren. It's effects are different for everybody really. While 18 weeks is a bit much you have to stop this adding in whatever your buddy gives you crap and get on a set plan to come off. If you don't mind the pinning use prop. If you are tired of pinning use the sust. Whatever you do quit mixing all this gear in and get balanced. Then you can begin a PCT after your levels stabilize. I have run Tren 18 weeks and was fine. That was before I knew what I was doing. Tren Ace will clear quickly. So do not panic. This is recoverable if you get a set plan of action.