OK! So who has done the D-BOL bridge and has negative words to speak about it?

[SOLID]

I am interested in this too...I've got some Dbol lying around...but still 3 months till my cycle is over so it's cool...hehe.

that fucking avatar always cracks me up. Yeah bro, I'm really interested in this, it seems the way to go. I mean the way I see it is your HTPA will not be fully restored. However, I see it as a way to come off a go clean without crashing super hard. And by the time you drop the d-bol your HTPA will be up and running near maximum which will make the transition to going clean much easier...without the physical and psycological effects that usually occur after a long cycle.

ROLGOR- No prob my brutha

 

[wartime100]

i just have a question about the dbol bridge...

how long do you run it for? Just until your natural test levels return? Does it matter if you dont run another cycle afterwards?

You are supposed to take as soon as you finish your clomid. Use if for 8 weeks and then take a few weeks off so your test levels can return to normal,

 

[BSA]

I was on Fina/Dbol for the first four weeks, and only did test cyp for weeks 5 and 6...After the last test shot i took 1 ttokkyo dbol tab in the morning for 3 weeks, and used clomid at night for 3 weeks as well. I gained about 24lbs during that cycle and lost about 4 which was water...6 weeks off everything I have kept all the size and most of my strength.

 

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[Shaved Ape]

My dbol bridge experience:

test-fina-winny 8 weeks
minimal HCG (2000 IU over 4 days during clearance time)
10mg dbol mornings for 2 weeks, then
5mg dbol mornings for 2 weeks, during clomid therapy
(did 3.5 weeks of clomid)

8 weeks post-cycle -- maintained more weight and size than after previous cycles, BUT..
bloodwork showed test levels still dramatically suppressed (around 90, where normal is 300-1000), even 4 weeks after stopping the dbol bridge

my conclusions: dbol bridge can help to ease you off and maintain mass during most catabolic phase, but continues to significantly suppress endogenous test production (at least for me, under these conditions)

I would therefore recommend the dbol bridge for those who want to come off REAL dosages for a few months without losing much, but who arent too concerned about allowing their endog. test production to return to normal during this "off" time

 

[SOLID]

good post shaved ape. 90 huh -that is very low.

 

[SOLID]

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[akathegame]

Solid and bros,

I think the dbol bridge is quite useful in linking high volume cycles, particularly if you want a cheap and effective bridge (and who doesn't want cheap and effective. However, if you have the appropriate cash I would bridge with Primo. The substance is the perfect bridge. Most guys who say they had a bad experience bridging with primo haven't used enough. The real move is to run 400-600mg weekly of primo for 8 weeks. Use clomid therapy as usual for first 4 weeks and continue with the primo for the extra 4 weeks. I'd use the highest dosage you can afford and use it for as many weeks as you can afford also. It won't supress you axis and will prevent catabolism. You could use hcg prior to the clomid and apparently some guys prefer nolvadex as opposed to the clomid, though I'd like to hear if you bros have tried and like this substitution. The key is the primo. Obviously, the cost is prohibitive. I might try bridging my heavy cycles with the dbol as you've suggest Solid, and then after a few dbol bridged cycles I'll come off for a real break with a long primo "bridge" into off period. I could even cut calories on the primo. Also before I go, Solid have you ever cut calories on dbol? Alot of guys think its a mortal sin, but the stuff will actually get you a freaky look and allow you to maintain mass while losing fat. Throw in some arimidex to prevent excess water and you'll find yourself string in the mirror in amazement at that classic dbol pump. Hope this wasn't too long and rambling bros. Out.

 

[SOLID]

good post akathegame. I have actually been thinking about using Primo since I have access to it right now. You can really go up that high huh with no influence on HTPA? 400-600mg? Well how would you run it. I'm finishing up Winny/Var right now doing HCG/Nolva. When would I start the Primo? And would it still be good to use if I were to go off completely afterward? What could I expect from 400mg/wk of Primo- I've been wanting to try this stuff for awhile now . I don't want to go off right now because I'm getting really lean more than I've ever been and I want to keep it going, but I've been on for awhile now and I'm all out of Winny and got about 11 days left of Var. I don't want to go clean

 

[akathegame]

Solid,

I want to frame my advice by saying that its all based on experience unless I state otherwise. I just want you to know that if I say it I've lived it so for what its worth its accurate although as I'm sure you know we all react differently. I've gone 600mg+ and never had any test suppression. This isn't based on gainskeeping alone, but on blood work. 400mg will do you right bro. Fortunately, when you bring the primo in isn't too critical. The stuff isn't gonna supress your HTPA, atleast from my epxerience, so you can bring it in with the clomid/nolvadex therapy. As far as results, depending upon what you've been taking you probably won't see any significant results, as far as size or strength gains. The key is what you won't see, namely you won't see weight loss, outside of any excess water you're carrying. You also shouldn't see much strength loss. You mentioned you were leaning out well. Primo can take you that much farther. I'm sure you've heard how primo is one of the few anabolics which is effective with a calorie deficit. This is no joke bro. I know the feeling of not wanting to come off. If you got the loot, and you've been on a heavy cycle for a while, I'd go as long as 8-12 weeks on the primo. You'll really solidify gain and while you won't be packing on alot mrre size, you'll be drop bodyfat while maintaining lmb and really just refine and harden your physique. After my next buliing cycle, I'm planning to come off something like this, but also through in some GH if I can affford it at 4-6 IUs for 5 days on 2 off to get that added anti-catobolic and fat burning effect.

If you've got a minute, do you really like the hcg/nolvadex rather than clomid? I've always come off with clomid alone, other than when I use the primo as well. What are you opinions of nolvadex and hcg as opposed to, or with clomid? I'd like to hear you thoughts bro, cuz when I find fellow experienced juicers I like to bounce ideas off them. Too many dumbasses on this board. I don't mind helping out newbies, but sometimes an experienced juicer wants to talk some higher level issues. Out.