Obama/Biden 2012!

[musclemom]

Who gives a shit about arts funding when our nations math/sci rankings are in the toilet. Thats where the damn funding needs to go

Let's try it this way, since you didn't seem to completely read what I posted:

David Sousa in his book How the Brain Learns offers the following on this topic as he cites the work of Vaughn and Winner from 2000 saying the study of the association between students taking arts courses and their SAT scores is one of the largest of its kind taking several years and involving over 10 million American high school students.

-Students who took arts classes had higher math, verbal and composite SAT scores than students who did not take arts classes.

-The more years of art classes, the higher the SAT scores

-Acting classes had the highest correlation with verbal SAT scores while Acting classes, music history, music theory or appreciation had the strongest relationship with math SAT scores.

Simply put, there is absolutely a correlation between art/music and improving math and science scores. Delete arts from the curriculum, kids get stupider, not smarter.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Im in Texas rob, not exactly a swing state

When I'm out of town working I stay in a hotel with a bunch of OFT from texas. They somehow forget TX used to be a blue state and act like it's been republican central for the last 100 years.

 

[-SD-]

I didnt say eliminate arts, i said funding needs to be shifted to where its needed more which is math/sci. Surely you agree that a heavier focus on math/sci benefits our math/sci performance than more focus on arts in the hopes it flings off math/sci benefits.

 

[-SD-]

When I'm out of town working I stay in a hotel with a bunch of OFT from texas. They somehow forget TX used to be a blue state and act like it's been republican central for the last 100 years.

Most of dixie used to be "blue" but the connotations of "blue" now is different than what it used to be also, just like the dem party used to be different

 

[binö]

gonna get it finsihed in november, it loks good ill get some pics up, u get any more ink

yep both pecs tatted up, touch up and added more shit to the sleeves.
one pec has a gnarly skull, the other pec and shoulder is bio-mechanical, gearing and shit like that pretty gnar.
pec tats hurt bro never again

 

[wootoom]

yep both pecs tatted up, touch up and added more shit to the sleeves.
one pec has a gnarly skull, the other pec and shoulder is bio-mechanical, gearing and shit like that pretty gnar.
pec tats hurt bro never again

Quit trying to be a badass...jk love ya bro

 

[musclemom]

I didnt say eliminate arts, i said funding needs to be shifted to where its needed more which is math/sci. Surely you agree that a heavier focus on math/sci benefits our math/sci performance than more focus on arts in the hopes it flings off math/sci benefits.

No, I can't agree, sorry. I'm older than you and I've watched the science/math curriculum change from the time I went to school to when my kids went. In about 20 years science and math have become way more demanding, earlier. Logically you'd think if THAT was all that was needed, America's scores would have been going up. Meanwhile it's the art, music, phys. ed. departments that are losing funding and compared to other countries America lags. It can't be a coincidence.

Not to mention the fact that if you cut arts and music, there's a huge percentage of children whose only exposure to art will be graffiti and the only music they'll ever hear is rap. Is THAT a healthy direction for the future? Kids who can't appreciate a Van Gogh or a symphony by Mozart?

Finally, not all brains work the same. A child who has no gift for math may be an artistic or musical genius, but if all they find is failure because they can't "get" math how will they ever find success if nothing else is offered (particularly if they come from a poor family that can't afford to send them for private music lessons or provide them with art supplies?)

 

[binö]

Quit trying to be a badass...jk love ya bro

quit trying to be a russian...jk i hate you bro!

 

[youpissmeoff]

When I'm out of town working I stay in a hotel with a bunch of OFT from texas. They somehow forget TX used to be a blue state and act like it's been republican central for the last 100 years.

Texas did not change - they have always been conservative. There are no more conservative democrats.

All the democrats I knew growing up are staunch republicans now.

 

[wootoom]

Where is Texas? South America?