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I ran it on my last cut and loved it. Going to use it on my bulk in hopefully 6 weeks. I think combining it with tren should be for experienced users only. I dno how much experience you have. With those stats im sure you have a few cycles under you belt. Just watch out for prolactin.
Yeh C-lo is a fuckin beast for sure. His physique is very impressive.
As for NPP, I haven't used it yet but it looks like a better alternative to Deca on paper IMO. Less bloat, less sides, kicks in faster, clears faster, and comparable gains.
I'm starting it up in about 5 weeks (just after Thanksgiving) along with Test and Dbol. Should be a good time
As for NPP, I haven't used it yet but it looks like a better alternative to Deca on paper IMO. Less bloat, less sides, kicks in faster, clears faster, and comparable gains.
I'm starting it up in about 5 weeks (just after Thanksgiving) along with Test and Dbol. Should be a good time
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psizzle_8
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I LOVE NPP. If I still bulked I'd use it as often as I could, was definitely a favorite of mine. I got lean as hell even at my biggest
Thats him in his avatar. Hes been around.
Wassup brother! I too am going to give NPP a first run in january I think. For you I think a NPP/Tren ace cycle would be sick. Just keep up the caber obviously. Hows the HGH situation going?
rustilldown
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I can't see you achieving anything but greatness c-lo. Your a god damn beast and in the proper proportions. Whatever you do don't ruin the symmetrical look and leanness you have by running stupid doses of slin and hgh. Bodybuilding needs another Arnold not another mass monster. It needs someone who is lean cut and huge without a distended belly. At 6'1 and 265 and cut to shreds you are already far ahead of the game in my opinion.
Ride it like you stole it!!
Love NPP, esp with a
100mg test prop
100mg mast prop
100mg npp
That was a bomb mix per ml!
100mg test prop
100mg mast prop
100mg npp
That was a bomb mix per ml!
C-Lo34
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Thanks bro! I appreciate that!! I'm looking at going national level in 2013.. I won both contest this passed summer and wanna continue to the top. I appreciate the motivation!
Ill ride it til the wheels fall off. Haha
Fucking massive......massive bro. Wow. How's the bloods and stuff? Everything good?
wow impressive to say the least!
C-Lo34
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Appreciate it!
Texas Monster
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You may want to look into stacking it with some 1 test cyp. That would be a nice combo. Unless your into shorter cycles.
Cali72
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I'm not plat but what I can see fuck!!
C-Lo34
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Never done cyp before. Ill look into it. What kind of dose are u thinking with cyp? I was going to run E @ a gram to 1500 a week
If you already have the Test E, there is no reason to switch. They are both long esters anyways. That's a hefty dose of test, but probably necessary with your size. Stacked with NPP it should be sweet!!
C-Lo34
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Ya I have the test sitting here waiting for next cycle! I'm excited to try NPP. Read lots of good things when I researched it. Hopefully it'll push me to where I want before cutting for stage.
C-Lo34
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I can't answer that one honestly. Never used NPP. But in saying that I've never experienced deca dick while on deca either.
I don't like deca, but NPP is a whole nother world.
This is pretty much exactly what I am planning for Jan-Feb blast. Do you do EOD literally or would M/W/F with this work? Ive never done short esters of anything. Just Primo and Mast blasts in addition to my HRT.
Do you need caber at this dose of NPP? What orals would you stack with this and what dosage? Var, tbol, halo?
I want 8 weeks of fast acting blast I can see results and feel....stay lean or drop some pounds and BF while on it. Since Ive only done blasts with Primo and Mast Ive never really "felt" anything short term and ist been long and slow cooking gains and improved recovery which I do not mind.
I know a couple guys that used to run their prop and tren M/W/F and were fine with it. NPP isnt the prop ester its the Phenylpropionate ester which is a little longer than Prop. IIRC its 4 days. Acetate/prop/phenylprop/isocapriate/enath/cyp/decanoate or something like that time/order half life wise IIRC, its been a while since I've had to deal with esters other than prop or Cyp/enat. I think you would be fine if thats the route you wanted to go. If your sunday into monday morning was too much of a drop off you would start to feel it and could make adjustments.
If you want the most out of it I would go EOD though. You have to think of short esters in terms of days or blocks (60 days ect). I used to think of them in terms of weeks and it used to piss me off because when your figuring weeks its an extra day every other week obviously. So one week seems like more AAS but its really not since its EOD. But maybe you dont OCD as much as I do about stupid shit.
Sorry for the hijack C-Lo
I am a little OCD like you maybe haha.....I only like the idea of M/W/F so I dont forget....but if EOD is efficient Ill just have to make it happen!
I know a couple guys that used to run their prop and tren M/W/F and were fine with it. NPP isnt the prop ester its the Phenylpropionate ester which is a little longer than Prop. IIRC its 4 days. Acetate/prop/phenylprop/isocapriate/enath/cyp/decanoate or something like that time/order half life wise IIRC, its been a while since I've had to deal with esters other than prop or Cyp/enat. I think you would be fine if thats the route you wanted to go. If your sunday into monday morning was too much of a drop off you would start to feel it and could make adjustments.
If you want the most out of it I would go EOD though. You have to think of short esters in terms of days or blocks (60 days ect). I used to think of them in terms of weeks and it used to piss me off because when your figuring weeks its an extra day every other week obviously. So one week seems like more AAS but its really not since its EOD. But maybe you dont OCD as much as I do about stupid shit.
Sorry for the hijack C-Lo
Tux
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I'm pretty OCD like that so I do my short esters in the AM on MWF, then on saturday night. So it's 48hrs apart MWF and 36hrs on the wknd. I like it b/c I get 4 shots a week every week and it's easier for me to calculate my doses. EOD or just plain MWF works just fine too tho
Tux
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I have csber on hand but I've never had to use it. I've never gone over 400mg/wk of NPP though, the gains are pretty good for me at that dose and if I need more bang I just add another compound. Hell yeah, just do your normal full dose on sat night, that way you get 4 doses per week, every week. I do my adex or aromasin or forma at the same amount I would if I ran it EOD. If you're more sensitive to estro or progesterone type sides, you might need to up your dose, but probably you'll be fine with your normal dose.
Texas Monster
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1 test cyp is not testosterone it is Dihydroboldenone which is a derivative of boldenone.
I say look into it because is could stack really well with what you are trying to do.
C-Lo34
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Thanks, that's what I found when I was researching.
C-Lo34
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Yeah let us know if you run some 1-test cyp c-lo, I'm interested in running it too as part of a lean bulker! If it works for a beast like you it'd DAMN sure work well for me
I will bro. I already have about 80ml of test e. so I need to figure out if its worth going after the cyp now or trying that after contest time. But I'm really interested in it!
There is nothing wrong with 3x week dosing for NPP. EOD is not necessary, and like Burn said the ester is slightly longer than proprionate. When I run it next month, I'm doing M/W/F also
SinisterUproar
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Just got my first bottle today with test E!!!! Super stoked. What do you think for dosing? 100 mg? 200?
C-Lo34
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What I've found and talked a out with my coach is at my size 265, that I'm gonna dose out at 150-200mg eod. Or mon weds fri. That seems to be legit and easy to follow.
SinisterUproar
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I am much lighter than you, gonna start at 100
What are you running it with and at what doses?
SinisterUproar
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NPP came in today... Now the hard part. Waiting til January to start...
I feel you bro! I have a hard time waiting lol. Did my second pin today. I will let you know what happens!
C-Lo34
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For sure man, let me know! Anxious to hear actual results on the NPP
I originally was going to do M/W/F, but not sure if its this thread or another on a similar subject...but Im leaning towards M/W/F with half dose or maybe full dose on Sat evening too. Or some seem to do a true EOD approach, but for me M/W/F and Sat night will be easier to remember if life gets chaotic
But isn't eod inj on m/w/f/s a true week. So then you would split the dose over these 4injs and times it by number of weeks instead of three n half injs making a higher dose for three then half for one it doesn't seem to add up if ur looking for more stables bloods even though it has slightly longer ester than prop. Cheers
EOD would give you 4 pins one week and 3 pins the next, so you average 3.5 pins per week. (M/W/F/S one week then T/T/S the next).
With that said if somebody wanted to do M/W/F each week, I would just spilt whatever dose you wanted to run each week into the three injects instead of doing a half inject.
If you really want to go EOD then you cant think of it in terms of weeks. You have to think time blocks, 60 days ect. If you start mind fucking weeks and theirs 4 pins one week and 3 then 4, then your going to over ocd about it all.
For sure man, I agree. I just posted that up for someone possibly wanting to do the 3x week dosing instead of EOD, where your weekly dose would be the same. Figuring up weekly doses are easier for some people for figuring out how much gear you need and how long it will last since we typically measure cycle lengths in terms of weeks.
Correct!
Using EOD protocol that's exactly what you would do.
I think since I am OCD (sort of haah) and memory wise its easier for me to assign days I might do M/W/F mornings full dose and a half dose late Sat night....just will be easier for me to remember....and worst case do M/W/F morning...true EOD being ideal but I just know how I am when life is busy and Ill start forgetting
I have to get a calender and write what has to happen on each day. Like if I have "x" running eod, then "y" running once a week, ancillary twice a week ect.... I just write it all on each day. Then as it happens I cross it off. That way there is no question.
Good Idea id need a seperate wall calender with big spaces to write it all down....
Worst case scenario if I do M/W/F early morning and half dose Sat night Id be okay right? Not like Im gonna drastically reduce results?
So M/W/F:
100mg Test Prop
100mg Mast Prop
100mg NPP
Sat Eve:
50mg T Prop
50mg M Prop
50mg NPP
Since I have never done fast acting stuff, is 3cc of fast acting esters gonna hurt like a MFer? hahaah
Hoping I can score/afford Var for 50-80mg daily or Ill settle for tbol. Halo seems tempting but Ill save that for some other run.
You'll be fine M/W/F if you choose. Just throwing ideas at you to help layout. Calender's are a great way. Then you can always refer back if need be.
As for pain, the test prop should be the only painful oil. Therefore the mast and npp will dilute it. You should be G2G.
Sweet, thanks brother! I might do the calender...and code it so no one who comes to my place asks WTF is "NPP/TP/MP" mean? haha
Tux
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Yeah you're fine doing it MWF and sat night, that's the same thing I'm doing. As long as you have a good brand of gear none of those should be really painful. NPP definitely shouldn't be painful. Tbol or anavar should be a nice addition but you'd get good results with just what you have listed... enjoy the cycle!
Thanks! Im excited but gotta wait a few months, get through some work and family stuff....and Im also excited and pondering the kind of training I will do...got about a month left of my current programming cycle, heavy on OL....for this next NPP/Mast/Prop blast i am thinking of going to only 3 days a week lifting full body OL/PL stuff and 3 days a week straight up circuits and intervals (or MMA if I have the time as a replacement for interval session). So more conditioning and see if I can get "ripped" haha...plus Ill need to be more diligent about cutting carbs. Im a low carb for life guy, but get in periods where work and life stress means upping carbs for survival sometimes to get through daily grind. But I lean out so much better when I do strictly veggies and rice as my only carbs, and often do not even do carbs post workout and a massive protein shake. Pre workout handful BCAA, creatine, beta alanine, and arginine, post workout 50g whey concentrate+20g blend of milk/casein/isolates etc.
