Now that the primo pushers are gone...

[floridalife]

who's marketing it?? There's a few manufacturers and diff countries etc.. it's talked about the same as any other roid is.. don't know where your animosity comes from? I'm on it.. i like it <shrug> No i don't see the point nobody here sells anything, so it's all advice, personal opinions, and personal results and that's it. period end period. I want to hear how people did on stuff.. and so far that's all i see. We are all big boys and girls and can form our own opinions. But for you to bad mouth a particular product that's a broad product.. is false and bad advice to people who might like it or benefit from it.. dunno what bit you in the ass man..

 

[needsize]

racoon.. Why are you speaking for everyone? DID SOMEONE ELECT YOU SPOKEPERSON OR MAYOR? There are tons of people who here who love primo, take and use primo and are happy with it. I'm currently on it. Bottom line is everyone is different, and everyone reacts differently. You don't comne across as an expert so if your voicing your opinion like everyone has one, then say your view, don't sit here and say "everyone" it's not true. I've never seen someone get their panties in a bunch over a steroid like you. If you don't like it, or it doesn;t work for you then don't use it. But don't sit here preaching like you have a technical background are an expert, author or scientist, because you're obviously not. Thank you

its not the drug itself that have his panties upset, you werent here to watch how things unfolded over the past couple years, so you dont know where its coming from

 

[floridalife]

<shrug> ok but he need not knock the drug itself, it certainly does have it's applications

 

[JumpBallWinner]

I remember a thread a few months back. I think the name of it was "Why primo kicks your steriod's ass" or something like that. Man did it get nasty between a few guys. Primo may be mild on the body, but it sure as hell seems to be hard on this board's unity. Maybe that side effect should be added to it's profile?

 

[LT3]

I don't wish the guy any harm but lets face facts about him; he self-promoted himself to expert status yet in reality was a beginner in the iron game (two different things: good at business vs. being an accomplished BB). That 1g primo run got only novice level results ... related to this his advice was at times very BAD advice while also being a BAD example of someone running TOO MUCH gear beyond their real level of athletic knowledge, experience, genetics, or aspirations. If you called him out on anything, he would threaten to gather his minions and BOMB you into oblivion. Luckily there were some veterans to lend a favor, to keep things real, but after going through that hassle one or more times it got to the point one just had to let things go unchecked. So you WAIT for what you know to be the unavoidable, SELF-DESTRUCTION.

As for primo I ran it before, with some other stuff in the day, liked it, and certainly did not need anything near 1g, to get my trophies, on a stage and not in some website photo shoot-out.

Well he was kind of famous so the guy deserves some celebrity kudos and not as as an ahole like fonz, I guess at least at this point innocent until proven guilty of greater sins. Gotta admire ones ability to steer the masses to drop their $$$ at ones feet, legit or not.

Agree 100%. Carth called him out on his "steroid Guru" shit and every one turned the blind eye. i called him out on the fact that he doesnt even look like he juices on a gram of primo, or the fact that he throws caution to the wind and everyone turns the blind eye, but when a "newbie" AKA a person that doesnt have satch's popularity does shit thats half as bad as that, he gets bombed off the site. the man's posts were contradiction after contradiction. and a lot of people were fed up. they couldnt voice their opinions because they didnt want to get bombed or get on people's bad side. i didnt care i told him every thing he did was wrong, hypoctitical and pretty much the opposite that we all preach, but once again turned the blind eye. so now that he;s gone, people no longer fear the bombs or that shit, soooo its turned in a free for all for people to voice their opinions. and they are talking about EVERYTHING, satch, IGF, primo, pretty much everything they couldnt mention wen satch was here. and i dont think that racoon is just shitting on primo, i just think hes saying its not the "side free" magic drug everyone makes it out to be. like i said earlier, i dont know satch personally, but the guys hypocracy and contradictions were obvious from a mile away.

 

[mookie]

I must say I am a bit dissapointed (not that any of you give a damm) but why crap on satch if it's primo you didn't like? So you don't like primo, who gives a flying f***. Some guys love it, other don't. Some guys love EQ, others hate it. He liked it and raved about it....AND? The guy ran into some trouble and without anyone offering up evidence, he is subtly being labeled a scammer. Thats not right man, in fact it's bulls***. If you have proof of this then provide it or STFU. Bash primo all you want, but satch was always a straight shooter with me, and to most of you as well so at least show the guy some respect. Damm MF'n vultures.

I am not saying Satch is a scammer but he owes people money or product and he is awol. There are people that know what's up with satch and not saying anything if is busted then show some proof.

 

[southpaw45]

Maybe that side effect should be added to it's profile?

lol!

I've never seen a steroid get bombed like this before. It seems to me that the people who are angry at SB are taking their anger out on PRIMO!

 

[USHP]

I had a feeling that some people needed to vent and that this thread would swing back and forth between primo opinions and Satch opinions.

Sometimes it's good to vent the things you're ugly about but then you gotta move on when the poison is out of your system and get back to your real purpose. I'm hoping the real purpose here is gaining better knowledge about the science of BB. I'd like to benefit from research, opinion and experience that comes from guys that have been around and know their shit. I'm hoping that this board's best days are not all in the past.

I lurked around here for months and read as much as I could saw a lot of skirmishes and decided not to join. I came back for some reason and joined 8 months ago but I wouldn't post because I didn't want to get into any of the shitstorms that were still going on. There was plenty of info to catch up on and a lot of good cycles to review and there's solid pct info that I needed to look at and reabsorb and there was some entertaining shit also.

I needed to break the ice and post to get to know people and ask questions. But, at times there were some security type issues that made me nervous. But, I calmed down a bit and decided to post and I'm glad I did.

Hopefully, this Satch thing will go away. I know some guys have had issues for years and I observed a bunch of the controversy while I was here as a non-posting member. I read many an old post of his, some were good, some were pointless and some were big time inflammatory. I had a very few communications with him and found him to be as decent and likable a guy as much as you can judge that thru the internet. I asked him a few questions and he had some good answers and some where he was flat out wrong. He was a very sharp businessman who I believe worked hard. But, like all successful guys he had that EGO and that ARROGANCE that gets to be a little too in your face when you run into other confident guys who decide you need be taken down a peg or two.

He needed to mature a little and lose that you can't touch me attitude that I think may have brought him down if indeed that is what happened to him. I never had a reason to spew hate at him because I didn't know him personally. Even if I did I would not do it here because he's not here.

I said more than enough on this thread so I'm done here. But I am attracted to the controversial shit. Thank God I can't type as fast as I can talk.

Peace

 

[boops]

lol!

I've never seen a steroid get bombed like this before. It seems to me that the people who are angry at SB are taking their anger out on PRIMO!

apparently you werent around in the days when there was the great test vs deca war namely between ranger and E2 going up against 2thick, talk about bashing....ahhhhhhh the good ol days......

and as far as satch goes in one of his threads a little while back he said how 2 years in jail would be easy to do for him and me being a C/O tried to explain otherwise, i guess what im saying here is becareful what you wish for......

 

[wayneboard1]

well no matter who pushes primo its still a shitty drug, unfortunatly it was a member of the board and to be frank EVERYONE is sick and tired of garbage being pushed here. why dont you get off his dick for 5 minutes and smell the coffee. if you can release that death grip that you guyes have around satch's dick i can promise you nobody will hurt you...

you truely are a pant load.

 

[wayneboard1]

racoon.. Why are you speaking for everyone? DID SOMEONE ELECT YOU SPOKEPERSON OR MAYOR? There are tons of people who here who love primo, take and use primo and are happy with it. I'm currently on it. Bottom line is everyone is different, and everyone reacts differently. You don't comne across as an expert so if your voicing your opinion like everyone has one, then say your view, don't sit here and say "everyone" it's not true. I've never seen someone get their panties in a bunch over a steroid like you. If you don't like it, or it doesn;t work for you then don't use it. But don't sit here preaching like you have a technical background are an expert, author or scientist, because you're obviously not. Thank you

give this man some K!!!

 

[Güclü_oglan]

well i live in turkey and without saying too much i got a couple of experiences of primo under my belt, great drug low side effects if you keep the dosage down but it's very mild in anabolic action, if you up the doses to match the effect of testosterone and trenbolone it's not very mild anymore, prostateproblems, acne, red blood cells etc will be encountered again

use it if you have the cash but if you're not rich test+tren is king

 

[bbkingpin]

and as far as satch goes in one of his threads a little while back he said how 2 years in jail would be easy to do for him and me being a C/O tried to explain otherwise, i guess what im saying here is becareful what you wish for......

I REMEMBER THE SAME EXACT THING. SHORTLY THEREAFTER HE DISAPPEARED FOR A FEW WEEKS THEN CAME BACK AND SAID HE JUST WENT THROUGH THE WORST WEEK OF HIS LIFE -- "HELL." IF L/E ARE MONITORING THIS BOARD, YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE THEM A REASON/PURPOSE/DRIVE TO BRING YOU DOWN. AS THE GOOD BOOK SAYS, "SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND," SO DON'T GIVE L/E A REASON OR THE DESIRE TO TRACK YOU DOWN BECAUSE, UNLESS YOU'RE OSAMA BIN LADEN (FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON), THEY WILL TRACK YOU DOWN. JUST ASK SADDAM HUSSEIN. KARMA COMES AND GOES NOT JUST BECAUSE OF OUR ACTIONS BUT BECAUSE OF OUR WORDS ALSO.

HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THE STUFFED MARLIN/TUNA MOUNTED TO A PLAQUE ON THE WALL WHERE IT'S INSCRIBED UNDERNEATH "I GOT CAUGHT BY OPENING MY MOUTH" ?

WHY DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF?

 

[benevolent anarchist]

Holy fu… haven’t been here in a long while and it’s cool to see how some people have grown. Needsize (avatar), you just keep getting bigger! Impressive.

I look at it this way. For someone like me who is always on (HRT) and does 3 to 4 heavy cycles a year, a real turkish primobolin cycle is a breath of fresh air. I get some decent gains and I feel great. Let me clarify. I usually do feel pretty damn good when I’m using higher doses, but with primo, I don’t get any of the negatives that come with it.

So IMO there are much better choices—gear that will give you a much better bang for the buck, but for me, money is not an issue and, like I said, a primo cycle is a nice break for me. I get my gains and it’s not at all harsh. Then after that’s over, I’ll wait a while and jump back on a nice tren-winny-test cycle, which is by far my favorite combination but is a tad bit harsh.

 

[Indy]

well florida i dont like the blanket marketing that goes with the drug and its blatant. go back and reread my posts. ok tomorow im going to start promotimg deca and ram down everyone's throat, deca,deca,deca....im going to make it seem like life isnt worth living unless your running deca...now you see my point? or are you still enabling the bullshit that has been going on here!!???

Why do you have to start shit period, why dont we all just post questions and answer and quit acting like high schools kids, this site is really becoming a nuisance more than a tool lately, and you for one are contributing to that feeling more so than anyone last few days, I agree with Florida's statement, but I wouldn't have asked it so nicely. You guys should be ashamed for kicking a brother when he's down, pretty pothetic, and no I dont see your point, you're not making one, you're just pissing people off. Feel free to state your opinion, but dont state mine for me, I am well capable of doing that myself.

 

[needsize]

apparently you werent around in the days when there was the great test vs deca war namely between ranger and E2 going up against 2thick, talk about bashing....ahhhhhhh the good ol days......

and as far as satch goes in one of his threads a little while back he said how 2 years in jail would be easy to do for him and me being a C/O tried to explain otherwise, i guess what im saying here is becareful what you wish for......

that was great, because you made massive guys debating what the most effective gear is, I am more likely to pay attention to opinions when guys have built their kind of size, and have their number of years in this game

 

[racoon_city]

if im wrong why am i getting showered with GREEN KARMA? someone has to speak up..the shit has been fowl for a long time around here. i think i made my point. dont need to defend it anymore.

 

[floridalife]

i could bomb ya if it would make u feel better

 

[LT3]

Bro for real, lets drop all this shit. its already taken up too much space. and enuff with the bombs. if someone says his opinion and you dont like it, Disagree, dont bomb them. but if someone is on the site saying bullshit and advising people wrong, then bomb away. but for real lets stop it with these bomb threats. it stops people from expressing their true opinion and thats what most people are angry over with satch. Flames and Bombs. enuff with that shit, its so childish. if you disagree with racoon they say so and leave it at that.

 

[VictorBR]

god damn it , what a mess . I will throw in my 0.2 cents .

1- I don´t know wtf happened to the bald boggieman , but I do have an idea . It is pretty obvious and if that really happened , well , he knew the risks of doing what he was doing for a living so ... he was playing a dangerous game here . He knew that .

2- I don´t blame the guy for pushing something that he sells , he is not forcing anyone to buy it . He is not pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to buy primo . If you are a newbie and you end up buying his product just because he is promoting , sorry but you do deserve to lose your money and have no results . You should educate yourself and have years of training under your belt before using any kinda of AAS , not just " WOW this guy said it is good , I am gonna USE IT NOW ! " , if you are dumb enough to act like that , you deserve what you got . Sorry .

3- I do blame him for bombing and trying to get people banned just for the reason that they called him out or created a topic about how they dislike primo . Also sometimes he acted like he was a god or a guru , and like someone said he was barely a begginner in the iron game .

4- But in his defense , he was always helping a lot of people even when there was a question like : " how many cals should I eat today " ? He would simply answer it to help the guy even though this time he knew that by helping he wouldn´t get a sale .

Well , that is what I think .


Victor

 

[racoon_city]

floridalife why are you so fascinated with this topic? im confused are you defending satch or are you defending primo? wich one is it? cause your looking like a huge tool right now...bomb me? lol hows that going to impact my life?

 

[LT3]

1. i dont think he realized how risky it really was bro.
2. i disagree. this site is meant to help people not trick them into buying what you're pushing. people come here to learn not "get what they deserve". and its the vets and mods responsibility to direct them to the right way. and since satch passed himself off as some sort of steroid guru, he had to unbiased and not think about profit when people asked for guidance.
3. Totally agree.
4. yes but one can argue he was doing it just so people can say "thats a good bro, hes not out to make sales hes just here to help ppl". just like many people are saying now.

 

[seizer]

If you're health doesnt warrant the cost of this drug, what will?

Pretty sure there is no better reason to spend big.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Primo is a fucking waste of time and definately $$$$$$.

I know guys that have used it by itself at dosages of 350mg/wk, 700mg/wk, and 1050mg/wk with gains that could have been attained by using 500mg of test per week and some arimidex. The only thing they ever got was a big fat drop in their wallet. Before I ever spent the $$$$ for Primo, i'd spend it on Anavar. In fact, the only way i'd take it is if it were free, but then if that were to happen, i'd probably sell it off and buy me a years worth of other gear.

People could use 3-400mg/wk of test with arimidex and get the Brad Pitt look....maybe throw a little light dose of winny in there and what do you have.....a primo look....with a fraction of the cost.

BMJ

 

[LT3]

Pretty sure there is no better reason to spend big.

Gains. Results. why spend money on 20 ius of gh a day or 200mcg of igf a day. to get freaky results. not to be healthy.

 

[racoon_city]

yea thats when my opinion on satch really changed, he was advocating 20-30 iu's of hgh ed...wtf! get out here loser!!!!!

 

[Indy]

yea thats when my opinion on satch really changed, he was advocating 20-30 iu's of hgh ed...wtf! get out here loser!!!!!

MODS how about we lock this useless racoon rant thread.........

 

[ass_face]

Probably a good time to discredit an extremely overrated and overpriced drug.

Anyone think they primo has something to offer over other drugs a twentieth its price such as EQ?

Sorry bro... I make my own gear and I make my primo at 200mg/ml. At 800 a week it is the best shit I have used ever. No comparison to EQ.

 

[Triple J]

have to agree ... my comparison of 80's primo vs. post 2k EQ, primo was FAR SUPERIOR in every way. but it was a lot cheaper then, too

so when I heard that today you need 1g of primo to get those kind of shitty gains, at those prices, I KNEW IT WAS A RIP-OFF

as for making your own, sounds like a good strategy

 

[needsize]

I'm willing to bet that many of the people saying that primo is so great, are not big enough that they have to worry about taking stronger drugs to keep growing. If you are an advanced bodybuilder, looking to add more size, its not going to do it unless you have unreal genetics.

 

[little chris]

Primo is probably the best AS out there. Gram for gram it's not the most potent, but being side-free and effective makes it an amazing product. I wouldn't discredit it for one second.

Exactly

 

[Triple J]

I'm willing to bet that many of the people saying that primo is so great, are not big enough that they have to worry about taking stronger drugs to keep growing. If you are an advanced bodybuilder, looking to add more size, its not going to do it unless you have unreal genetics.

you win that bet easy, but remember, there are many many sources that claim primo + dbol = ARNOLD's stack

now granted ARNOLD=unreal genetics, and granted those were late 60's early 70's human grade drugs from the world's best pharma companies. the cost was next to nothing so you could take as much as you pleased

 

[needsize]

you win that bet easy, but remember, there are many many sources that claim primo + dbol = ARNOLD's stack

now granted ARNOLD=unreal genetics, and granted those were late 60's early 70's human grade drugs from the world's best pharma companies. the cost was next to nothing so you could take as much as you pleased

exactly, and too be honest I've read more about arnold running test/deca/dbol than primo, thats one of the reasons I've always stuck with that stack. And Arnolds genetics do change everything, if you have ever been around someone like that, its unreal how they respond. A buddy at my gym is like that, same height as me, 5'8", and was 275lbs before starting his contest diet, and he grows better on less than a gram of gear, where are I need at least 3x that

 

[bbkingpin]

yea thats when my opinion on satch really changed, he was advocating 20-30 iu's of hgh ed...wtf! get out here loser!!!!!

I have to agree with Indy in the sense that you're really attacking the guy when he's not here to defend himself. But, probably not coincidentally, when I had a source for serostim, he kept advocating higher and higher doses, like 10-20 i.u.s per day. The effects actually were unbelievable once the water retention subsided. But he still had a lot to gain by me buying more and more. Satch was a good marketer, good businessman, the whole GTP brand was such a scam though. Schering Primo from Turkey, fine, but going from bashing anything but human grade (he started the threads that advocated nothing but human grade gear) to advocating underground gear (GTP) really really really takes the cake!

 

[galaxy]

U think satch was trying to push hcg when he was advocating hcg cycles? LMAO That was a fucking good one. I almost bought it.

 

[galaxy]

RADAR why dont u post up over on Mayhem? Oh thats right...youd get flamed into oblivion....the guys over there actually walk the walk!

 

[jumpshot]

yea thats when my opinion on satch really changed, he was advocating 20-30 iu's of hgh ed...wtf! get out here loser!!!!!

wow

he can't "get out of here" because he's not here.

let it go bro

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Probably a good time to discredit an extremely overrated and overpriced drug.

Anyone think they primo has something to offer over other drugs a twentieth its price such as EQ?

Dude didn't you see the impressive results of running 1 g of primo a week?

 

[Indy]

Dude didn't you see the impressive results of running 1 g of primo a week?

Has nothing to do with Primo QT, it's more of a personal attack than anything else, really a waste of a thread....too bad seems like the board is doing downhill with ranting, raving, and bitching, been a few months since I've seen good interesting, informative threads.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Has nothing to do with Primo QT, it's more of a personal attack than anything else, really a waste of a thread....too bad seems like the board is doing downhill with ranting, raving, and bitching, been a few months since I've seen good interesting, informative threads.

Interesting information would be telling the memebers here what is going on not being all hush hush and quit well people lose hard earned money all for what? Other bust were posted why is this one such a big fucking secret? Why do so many people around here have something to hide on this one? Now that would be an interesting honest thread don't you think.

 

[Indy]

Interesting information would be telling the memebers here what is going on not being all hush hush and quit well people lose hard earned money all for what? Other bust were posted why is this one such a big fucking secret? Why do so many people around here have something to hide on this one? Now that would be an interesting honest thread don't you think.

Probably would, and I could answer every question, but mods dont want it on the board and when I made a post at his request, it was immediately locked twice, mods said they dont even want the subject of him being posted. So instead everyone does shit like this while putting in names and all.......maybe one day they will allow it, but until then I keep his converstations to myself, we are still friends and always will be, one of the best friends I have, stand up person no matter what some other idiot says.

 

[seizer]

Interesting information would be telling the memebers here what is going on not being all hush hush and quit well people lose hard earned money all for what? Other bust were posted why is this one such a big fucking secret? Why do so many people around here have something to hide on this one? Now that would be an interesting honest thread don't you think.

How about just having respect because the guy already has it coming?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Probably would, and I could answer every question, but mods dont want it on the board and when I made a post at his request, it was immediately locked twice, mods said they dont even want the subject of him being posted. So instead everyone does shit like this while putting in names and all.......maybe one day they will allow it, but until then I keep his converstations to myself, we are still friends and always will be, one of the best friends I have, stand up person no matter what some other idiot says.

Hmmm no reason why this is a big secret? Come on there has to be a reason. Other busts are posted why is this ANY diffrent from any other bust?

 

[needsize]

Probably would, and I could answer every question, but mods dont want it on the board and when I made a post at his request, it was immediately locked twice, mods said they dont even want the subject of him being posted. So instead everyone does shit like this while putting in names and all.......maybe one day they will allow it, but until then I keep his converstations to myself, we are still friends and always will be, one of the best friends I have, stand up person no matter what some other idiot says.

If people are out money, then mods shouldnt be doing that stuff, people affected deserve to know where their money is.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

If people are out money, then mods shouldnt be doing that stuff, people affected deserve to know where their money is.

EXACTLY!!!!!

 

[ass_face]

I'm willing to bet that many of the people saying that primo is so great, are not big enough that they have to worry about taking stronger drugs to keep growing. If you are an advanced bodybuilder, looking to add more size, its not going to do it unless you have unreal genetics.

I would probably say you are right... But I am not trying to be an elite bodybuilder life yourself. For strength and lean gain, primo has been the best for me. In addition I do not suffer from any cardio fall off with Primo, which is very important for ju jitsu and kickboxing training. I am 5-10, 235-240 (depending on if I take a shit or not)... so I have no interest in being any bigger than I am.

If you goal is to be bigger, then primo is probably not your best choice. If you have already reached the size you want, then Primo is a great choice to solidify and bring more quality to your current physique.

 

[bbkingpin]

If people are out money, then mods shouldnt be doing that stuff, people affected deserve to know where their money is.

I feel bad for any bro that goes down for providing a service that most of us depend upon. But those are the risks involved, just read Legal Muscle by Rick Collins, a great bro indeed!

 

[racoon_city]

ok im sorry i did jump the gun a lil bit on my last statement. i appalogize because satch isnt here do defend himself. but still indy you know whats going on and your not saying anything

like i said i appalogize for my last comment

 

[racoon_city]

by the way POWDER is the only way to go if your gonna run it @ 600+ mg's!! that would be the only way i can phathom the thought of dropping money on primo. and i would get it internationally.

now powder is a different discussion but very well affordable and you can dose it sky high if you wish

 

[Indy]

ok im sorry i did jump the gun a lil bit on my last statement. i appalogize because satch isnt here do defend himself. but still indy you know whats going on and your not saying anything

like i said i appalogize for my last comment

I appreciate seeing you apologize cause yes you did jump the gun. Read my last post, I have been forbidden from posting information, tried it, mod removed it, and sent me a pm slapping my wrist. I am not hiding anything. He is a close personal friend so I know his situation, has nothing to do with this board or his business,we are just close friends. You need to ask others why that is so, I have nothing to hide, and neither does he, they just dont want it brought up on this board for somereason, they probably just dont want the affiliation, but that's just my speculation.

 

[Indy]

Hmmm no reason why this is a big secret? Come on there has to be a reason. Other busts are posted why is this ANY diffrent from any other bust?

QT I cant answer that question, I really dont have any idea, no different if you ask me, but I wish I knew the reason, only thing said to me was "let it die" posting anything about him keeps the situation alive, so I have been a good platinum member and not posting anything else as directed. I'll probably hear about this thread now...

 

[alexmichael]

QT I cant answer that question, I really dont have any idea, no different if you ask me, but I wish I knew the reason, only thing said to me was "let it die" posting anything about him keeps the situation alive, so I have been a good platinum member and not posting anything else as directed. I'll probably hear about this thread now...

Do you know if any accurate info has been posted on other boards? I have looked on a few but didn't see anything.

 

[Indy]

Do you know if any accurate info has been posted on other boards? I have looked on a few but didn't see anything.

I can tell you what is posted on other boards is NOT accurate, it's speculation and people kicking someone while they are not around to defend themselves and make it up as they go along. that's where it's ending up here and why I am dropping my volume of posts on this board as of today.

 

[UA_Iron]

I can tell you what is posted on other boards is NOT accurate, it's speculation and people kicking someone while they are not around to defend themselves and make it up as they go along. that's where it's ending up here and why I am dropping my volume of posts on this board as of today.

Just to clear some things up, Satch and I have always been cool with one another - this thread was more aimed the act of pushing a product than the character of the individual involved. I think he helped a lot of people out - he made a great transformation in the 2 years he was into BB'ing hardcore and did his best to spread the knowledge he gained.

In any case, the circumstances involving recent events should not be on EF until it is known exactly what went down. E drama spreads like wildfire around these parts when in reality this should all be make believe...right people?

I wish the best for Satch.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Good post UA...we all wish the best! No one will be allowed to post crap be4 facts are permitted to go out! Btw..i think primo is way overrated according to many user experniences...nothing to do with the guy.

 

[racoon_city]

yea thats more or less it polfa.....we are going after the drug, and since satch seems to be the most attached to it then he's gonna catch some shrapenel....

 

[jumpshot]

is that ever going to happen?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

I dont know.

 

[Indy]

Just to clear some things up, Satch and I have always been cool with one another - this thread was more aimed the act of pushing a product than the character of the individual involved. I think he helped a lot of people out - he made a great transformation in the 2 years he was into BB'ing hardcore and did his best to spread the knowledge he gained.

In any case, the circumstances involving recent events should not be on EF until it is known exactly what went down. E drama spreads like wildfire around these parts when in reality this should all be make believe...right people?

I wish the best for Satch.

thanks I appreciate that, and he will as well. Drop me a line, I'll fill ya in when the heat is off of him.

 

[floridalife]

HEY COON - IT'S A THREAD ABOUT A FUCKING DRUG, NOT A PERSON. Bottom fucking line... who the fuck cares what a specific person pushed said did or didn't do vanished etc.. this is about a particular juice that people seek advice on.. so unless you are an expert or have some extensive ass REAL world results with it.. no reason to post bottom line. Nobody asked you what you thought of some person? Is it titled what do you think of this guy?

IT'S ABOUT FUCKING PRIMO, POST ABOUT PRIMO.. THAT'S IT' LIKE IT, HATE IT, CAN'T AFFORD IT, WHAT EVER IT... BUT IT'S ABOUT PRIMO..

 

[fortunatesun]

No one will be allowed to post crap be4 facts are permitted to go out!

Good reason. Especially if EliteFitness has drawn an amount of Federal interest as some have recently suggested. Things said in the heat of the moment might be misinterpreted by certain lurkers with small dicks and preying minds.

 

[boops]

Good reason. Especially if EliteFitness has drawn an amount of Federal interest as some have recently suggested. Things said in the heat of the moment might be misinterpreted by certain lurkers with small dicks and preying minds.

the DEA and their likenesses have ALWAYS read and been on these boards, it wasnt that long ago that EF was raided and George went to bat for all of us...so big brother is always "lurking"

 

[Indy]

HEY COON - IT'S A THREAD ABOUT A FUCKING DRUG, NOT A PERSON. Bottom fucking line... who the fuck cares what a specific person pushed said did or didn't do vanished etc.. this is about a particular juice that people seek advice on.. so unless you are an expert or have some extensive ass REAL world results with it.. no reason to post bottom line. Nobody asked you what you thought of some person? Is it titled what do you think of this guy?

IT'S ABOUT FUCKING PRIMO, POST ABOUT PRIMO.. THAT'S IT' LIKE IT, HATE IT, CAN'T AFFORD IT, WHAT EVER IT... BUT IT'S ABOUT PRIMO..

So with that said, I'll say it again. I have used primo for years, great stuff, I dont care what anyone says. Human Grade has many advantages, and primo is not only that (Shering) but much safer than pretty much anything else. People always bash primo and always will, get used to that Florida, take it from someone that can afford it, therefore uses it, they will never stop. Many posts in the past, and this one is included as well... Bash primo because of the price saying, "I have never tried it, but it's too expensive", "the stuff is shit". that is not a point at all but I have got used to the juvenile attitudes, unfortunately.
So I have a big house, bmw's, and I use Shering Primo's, shoot me for working hard and succeeding in life, but the stuff gives me results and looks that no other steroid can offer, it definately has it's place in "MY" cycles, but I dont push it on others, while others make the blanket statement, "Primo is shit", well in my opinion, which used to be respected here, is "Primo IS the shit" !

Let's move on guys.........

 

[gnutz]

I'm with Mr. X on this one. I would also add that if I had the money, I would choose Primo over any AAS out there every time. Never need ancillaries while on, and PCT is a breeze. I would not discredit Primo or consider it overrated......I have had nothing but great results.

If you are looking to be a huge, puffy behemoth because you lack confidence, then yes, Primo is certainly not your choice.

I with X also on this one...
Primo is some good clean gear with few sides.
Only drawback is cost but this is our health we are talking about.
Worth the added expense if you ask me...

 

[LVTitan]

Probably would, and I could answer every question, but mods dont want it on the board and when I made a post at his request, it was immediately locked twice, mods said they dont even want the subject of him being posted. So instead everyone does shit like this while putting in names and all.......maybe one day they will allow it, but until then I keep his converstations to myself, we are still friends and always will be, one of the best friends I have, stand up person no matter what some other idiot says.

yup yup.. good bro. nuff said

 

[needsize]

I'm with Mr. X on this one. I would also add that if I had the money, I would choose Primo over any AAS out there every time. Never need ancillaries while on, and PCT is a breeze. I would not discredit Primo or consider it overrated......I have had nothing but great results.

If you are looking to be a huge, puffy behemoth because you lack confidence, then yes, Primo is certainly not your choice.

so because I choose the stronger, more cost effective drugs, to continue my development, that makes me a huge puffy behemoth that lacks self confidence?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

so because I choose the stronger, more cost effective drugs, to continue my development, that makes me a huge puffy behemoth that lacks self confidence?

If that is the case there should be more huge puffy behemoths

 

[maccer]

so because I choose the stronger, more cost effective drugs, to continue my development, that makes me a huge puffy behemoth that lacks self confidence?

yeah you pussy

 

[needsize]

yeah you pussy

I knew it......

 

[racoon_city]

here we go again

 

[Indy]

so because I choose the stronger, more cost effective drugs, to continue my development, that makes me a huge puffy behemoth that lacks self confidence?

Needsize he's on his own with those comments, I'll defend the fact that it does me good, but I would never back a comment like that

 

[needsize]

Needsize he's on his own with those comments, I'll defend the fact that it does me good, but I would never back a comment like that

good to know, it was a dumb comment. But it also backs up the earlier point that most of this board is dudes looking for a beach body, otherwise they would understand the need for stronger drugs, and the need to get bloated sometimes to get there. What kills me is that i was waaaay beyond a beach bod when I started to juice, maybe I should have started 6 months after I started training.....
btw indy, that wasnt directed at you

 

[sweed]

good to know, it was a dumb comment. But it also backs up the earlier point that most of this board is dudes looking for a beach body, otherwise they would understand the need for stronger drugs, and the need to get bloated sometimes to get there. What kills me is that i was waaaay beyond a beach bod when I started to juice, maybe I should have started 6 months after I started training.....
btw indy, that wasnt directed at you

you do have a beachbody.. a huge m'fing ripped beach body that like .5% of the lifters could achieve. Btw when u go to the beach, how many looks do u get??

 

[Indy]

good to know, it was a dumb comment. But it also backs up the earlier point that most of this board is dudes looking for a beach body, otherwise they would understand the need for stronger drugs, and the need to get bloated sometimes to get there. What kills me is that i was waaaay beyond a beach bod when I started to juice, maybe I should have started 6 months after I started training.....
btw indy, that wasnt directed at you

I know it wasnt' you always post professionaly and without bias, I never once worried about "high school" comments coming from you bro.....

 

[needsize]

you do have a beachbody.. a huge m'fing ripped beach body that like .5% of the lifters could achieve. Btw when u go to the beach, how many looks do u get??

thanks
This last summer I did get a lot because of the contest dieting, big does get looks, but big and shredded gets a lot of stares

thanks indy

 

[racoon_city]

needsize does your wife/girl ever get protective of ya? i know around here with that built of a body you would get hit on non stop..not to sound gay but its true

 

[needsize]

needsize does your wife/girl ever get protective of ya? i know around here with that built of a body you would get hit on non stop..not to sound gay but its true

it does happen at the gym and if I go out to clubs, I kinda like it, but my wife does get pretty jealous sometimes.....as long as she takes care of business at home she doesnt have to worry though

 

[PolfaJelfa]

needsize does your wife/girl ever get protective of ya? i know around here with that built of a body you would get hit on non stop..not to sound gay but its true

Translation= Needsize i would love to be a judge at your future competitions. Meet me an hour be4 prejudging in the mens bathroom.

PS: Stall #3

 

[Indy]

Translation= Needsize i would love to be a judge at your future competitions. Meet me an hour be4 prejudging in the mens bathroom.

PS: Stall #3

Polfa, I REALLY didn't need that visual, thanks for ruining a nights sleep for me, I'm afraid to shut my eyes

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Polfa, I REALLY didn't need that visual, thanks for ruining a nights sleep for me, I'm afraid to shut my eyes

 

[Triple J]

LOL

Translation= Needsize i would love to be a judge at your future competitions. Meet me an hour be4 prejudging in the mens bathroom.

PS: Stall #3

 

[bbkingpin]

So with that said, I'll say it again. I have used primo for years, great stuff, I dont care what anyone says. Human Grade has many advantages, and primo is not only that (Shering) but much safer than pretty much anything else. People always bash primo and always will, get used to that Florida, take it from someone that can afford it, therefore uses it, they will never stop. Many posts in the past, and this one is included as well... Bash primo because of the price, I have never tried it, but it's too expensive, the stuff is shit. that is not a point at all but I have got used to the juvenile attitudes, unfortunately. So I have a big house, bmw's, and I use Shering Primo's, shoot me, but the stuff gives me results and looks that no other steroid can offer, it definately has it's place in MY cycles, but I dont push it on others, where others make the blanket statement, "Primo is shit", well in my opinion, which used to be respected here, is "Primo IS the shit"

Let's move on guys.........

Indy, I know you said you work for a Fortune 500 company, but where did you get all that money? Inherit it? It's none of my business but I would like to have a boat load of primo since it's human grade. I love deca because I don't get many sides except some water retention and shut down, but even human grade test is the dirtiest shit around, it makes your skin oily and causes pimples here and there. That's disgusting. Bodybuilding has to be more than building huge muscles, there should be an aesthetic component. Not thick body hair that needs to be shaved every day and acne that needs to be airbrushed. I'd try primo if I had $1000 to blow on a steroid cycle with modest results. But I'd rather take NPP, a lot cheaper and still very strong with few visible side effects.

 

[bbkingpin]

Are you a gay Polack?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Are you a gay Polack?

 

[Indy]

Indy, I know you said you work for a Fortune 500 company, but where did you get all that money? Inherit it? It's none of my business but I would like to have a boat load of primo since it's human grade. I love deca because I don't get many sides except some water retention and shut down, but even human grade test is the dirtiest shit around, it makes your skin oily and causes pimples here and there. That's disgusting. Bodybuilding has to be more than building huge muscles, there should be an aesthetic component. Not thick body hair that needs to be shaved every day and acne that needs to be airbrushed. I'd try primo if I had $1000 to blow on a steroid cycle with modest results. But I'd rather take NPP, a lot cheaper and still very strong with few visible side effects.

I work for my cash bro........and I must agree with you on one point. I just finished up my first ever NPP cycle a few weeks back and I loved it. I have all this deca and cant use it cause my dick just quits working and my tits hurt no matter what the dosage is. Never had any issues on NPP, and only took cabaser every 3rd day while on the cycle. I will use NPP again after my spring Primo cycle, no doubt in my mind.

 

[Indy]

Florida, you just got a bucket of K from me !! thanks dawg.

 

[jacked clown]

Longest anabolic thread ever...I thought i was in the C&C forum

 

[PolfaJelfa]

 

[ed2005]

For what it's worth, Primo has been the best AAS I've ever used when held in relation to other gear with pros verses cons. Here's a thought though, maybe the different opinions could be, in part, down to different body types. Primo's best quality IMO comes from the hardness it produces as well as the 'cosmetic look' of the muscle, so any one who is naturaly mesomorphic I wouldn't assume would see as great of benefits as compared to someone who has not got a naturally muscular body. For the non naturally muscular person, anyone on calorific restricted diet and the older BB'r there is nothing comes close to Primo...IMO

 

[Zuperman]

Some please have some freaken mercy and explain this!!!!! please please please

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460955

 

[floridalife]

Thanks Indy appreciate it brotha.. ya know u just gotta speak the truth. It amazes me people can rag on something

a. they haven't used
b. don't understand
c. because they can't afford it

I think if you could afford it, you'd use it. If money isn't an issue, why not use the cleanest least side product that will leave you with a large % of clean lean muscle mass that 50-70% of doesn't dissapear afterwards.

It's how people are in life, you drive a nice car people hate on it, have a nice house people hate on it, have a hot GF they mutter shit under their breath, and now the new one is if you can afford Primo they hate on it hahahahah

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Florida...i have to disagree with on the reasons why some would not want to use primo. Needsize pretty much summarized what i have to say. One would need Over 3 grams of primo ( which would too have sides) to equall the results of a gram of test or so. Primo is a weak drug...every refference book states that. Its mild...very mild. Now for cutting, bridging, or supplementation sure. But the side free stuff is BS.

I guarantee you will have near as many sides as with any other drug if you take as much of it as you would need to equal the anabolic and androgenic index of another that drug.

Not saying its a bad drug. But i dont buy side free for a MOMENT. Nor do the people who have used it in high doses.

 

[needsize]

Thanks Indy appreciate it brotha.. ya know u just gotta speak the truth. It amazes me people can rag on something

a. they haven't used
b. don't understand
c. because they can't afford it

I think if you could afford it, you'd use it. If money isn't an issue, why not use the cleanest least side product that will leave you with a large % of clean lean muscle mass that 50-70% of does dissapear afterwards.

It's how people are in life, you drive a nice car people hate on it, have a nice house people hate on it, have a hot GF they mutter shit under their breath, and now the new one is if you can afford Primo they hate on it hahahahah

did you read anything I posted in this thread, depending on your genetics, and if you are an advanced bodybuilder, which 99% of this board isnt, then primo is not going to work for any kind of mass building cycle. So seeing you say people like me are basically haters because we dont care that much for it, not cool, and dead wrong. Funny thing is that I have all those things you listed, except for the primo

 

[PolfaJelfa]

My point exactly.

 

[floridalife]

Ok Doctor LMFAO dude get a clue, really. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! That's BS on the 3g's and bullshit on size and muscle. I gained 19lbs so far an it's week 5-6 now. You eat properly, workout properly and you'll get solid gains. Not bloated fat ass looking water weight. Well then maybe you need to buy yourself some primo and try it. I'm on, have my nut sack, dick works great, no acne, no sides at all, and gaining like a mad man and am cut, no bloat no water weight and am more vascular then i have ever been. So you're wrong. Thanks for playing though.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Congrats then.

 

[floridalife]

Thanks!

 

[ryan04]

Interesting information would be telling the memebers here what is going on not being all hush hush and quit well people lose hard earned money all for what? Other bust were posted why is this one such a big fucking secret? Why do so many people around here have something to hide on this one? Now that would be an interesting honest thread don't you think.

I don't know what happened to the guy and I don't really care. Selling drugs is a dangerous thing, and S.B was SLOPPY AS HELL about it. Any fed or narc monitoring this board would immediately be able to tell who was pushing stuff...him and the vetabolics guy. Shit, on several threads these guys came right out and said in so many words they was selling. If S.B were selling coke or something like that on the streets he wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes. I've known tons of drug dealers of the course of my life, and I myself have sold tons of drugs. I've seen the dumbass mistakes guys make and this is just another example. I don't know the guy personally, but I know enough about him by his actions to know that he didn't know shit about the dope game and the cardinal rules that go along with it, one of them being to not draw attention to yourself.

So many guys on this forum were so hung up on the guy's nutsack it was pathetic. You have grown men acting like children, treating him like he was fucking Jesus or something. Why? Because he sells drugs? Whoopdee-doo, he MUST be cool. The guy didn't even have good prices! This group blow-job for Satch is even more pathetic because this is a fuckin internet chat room...none of us even really know each other. At times this board can be like high school, and it just goes to show how some people never grow up.

I'm not ripping on everyone on this board...ther are a lot of good bros on here who have helped myself and others a lot. But like anything else in life, there are a lot of idiots on here who are quick to jump on a band wagon in order to gain acceptance from everyone else. This type of behavior is normal among children and teens, but for grown men it is just plain pathetic.

 

[swolenole]

Props to Indy for defending his friend and being succesful in life. If my economic situation were different..I would run Primo/var/proviron every cycle..but no it's not the biggest bang for your buck...

I am a salesman & promote myself daily..that's how you make the bucks...But in the Boogiemans situation it was a paradox....the more succesfull that he became through self promation the more suceptable he became....

The best I can tell about Indy's charecter from my time on EF...he does not seem to be the type of guy that defend the Boogieman if he knew he had turned scammer...

 

[pharmguy]

who says you have to be an advanced body builder to use this or that? I have been using AAS for 9 years on and off and I have as much of a right to use them as someone who competes. Most people who use them DONT compete. And NEEDSIZE, most people on this board dont give a shit about being an advanced meathead either..... Im all about tbol/var, primoi, and any other mild steroid. I use test only in doses sufficient to keep my libido happy while on, i use nothing else except winny every now and then...... And I look pretty fuckn good,.