I am very impressed Feedz! And I sincerely hope you take that as the compliment I intend. I gave you a sucker challenge and you swatted it out of the park. Truth is I didn't myself know that the bible described Hagar as his wife until about 10 weeks ago. I was listening to a Muslim convert discussing this very subject we were discussing and he mentioned this. I looked it up and wham! There it was. I know I got caught up in the succeeding verses because throughout the rest of the chapter she is never referred to as his wife again. Now with your indulgence I'd like to respond to the rest of your response. Lol @ you knowing more than me. You don't know me well enough to claim such a thing, so I'll start by telling you religion was one of my double majors and I've already read both the Bible and Qur'an in their entirety, but thanks for the recommendation. I said 'probably'. I've been around the block enough times to know not to wander to far out onto the assumption branch.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden, but also Abraham's second wife who gave Abraham his first born child.
Gen 16:3: So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife. Granted. But this was considered a illegimate union by God. Precisely why Ishmael was passed over for birthrite. An important point especially as it meets with Christ's lineage and legitimate claim to the throne.
No offense, but you and Cindy are crazy to think the two are different. It doesn't matter that "Allah" in the Qur'an comes across differently than "YHWH" in the New Testament. Do you see, Cindy, how saying because they have different personalities that they are now two different people doesn't make sense? This runs far deeper than mere personality differences. And this also makes me wonder about your claim to have read the bible. Biblical doctrine clashes with the Koran so much it's almost laughable. The bible clearly teaches a triune Godhead. The Koran does not. The bible clearly teaches that Jesus was God in flesh. The Koran resigns him to mere prophet status. And this alone would be a back-breaker in that the entirety of the gospel rises or falls on this one fact. And the bible also teaches that salvation is by grace and by grace alone. The Koran teaches that favor with God is earned. And I have learned even recently there are many, many other incompatibilities between the two books. Based upon the teaching of each book, it is simply not plausible that they are referring to the same person.
If the one, true God you believe in truly exists, and you admit that Allah was at one point the same god as YHWH, and you now say they are two different people, then you're saying two gods exist, which makes no sense because I'm sure you consider yourself a monotheist.
Jewish people believe in the god as described in the OT and not the new, and one could argue the God described in the OT and NT seem like vastly different gods. They do. So do Jews not believe in the same God either because his personality is different from the OT to the NT? They simply rejected Jesus as messiah. They errantly expected Him to come in power and glory and to overthrow the Roman oppression. They were not looking for Him to come in humility. However, the old testament prophesies were very clear about His arrival, death and ressurection. That's easy to say in hindsight, I know. But nonetheless. Why do the descriptions of God in the old and new testament clash in your mind? I see the all the attributes of God on both sides of Malachi.
And for that matter, since Muslims believe Yeshua was a prophet sent through Allah and you don't believe Allah is the same god as YHWH, does that mean the man you think is your savior was a polytheist? This straw dog falls apart upon Jesus's own words. The muslim's assigning Him mere prophet status doesn't wash because Jesus Himself claimed to be Messiah and the Son of God and being equal with His Father. So if the muslims were correct as to Him being only a prophet than Jesus was a liar or a lunatic and therefore not much of a prophet! Because of Jesus's own words, you can't have it both ways. Sorry. This is quite simple when all boiled down. Jesus was either exactly who He said He was or He was a lunatic.
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I'm not an evangelical Christian and I'm not a JW. I'm just fine with live and let live. I never post on here trying to convert or convince anyone (and I certainly dont IRL) I just defend what I believe.
