not seeing gains. why?

[drock111]

I was taking 30 mg of dbol everyday for the first 4 weeks. its now the 4th week. im on 500mg of test enth a week, and deca 300 once a week.deffinatly feel strength and went up in weight some. but not seeing myself getting any bigger. kinda dissapointing. this is my second cycle, seems like my first one was way better of pretty much doing the same thing.

 

[goin on 4T]

You give it 2 more weeks, the test and deca take 3-5 to build up. So as long as your source is good than you are fine.

 

[stevesmi]

there are a bunch of reasons why. you need to post before and after pics.. stats... diet, training. were you able to gain OFF steroids? if the answer is no then your diet and workouts are not good enough. this is why the vets on here preach to build a base BEFORE running steroids but a lot of guys don't listen (not saying you are one of them but giving an example) if you build a base beforehand it means you have your training and diet in check which will assist you greatly in making gains on a cycle.

also with deca you need a lot of carbs for it to do what deca does.. that is mass, you should be starving 24/7 as it will boost your appetite.. yes this means you will gain some fat, comes with the territory. i went from 7% to 17% off 2 deca cycles.. my shirts do not fit me anymore.

 

[stevesmi]

You give it 2 more weeks, the test and deca take 3-5 to build up. So as long as your source is good than you are fine.

4 weeks of dbol ED he should of gained. something is wrong with his diet/training. stacked with test and deca no reason why he shouldn't have mass gains by now. that is a pure mass stack.. the best IMO for a non-pro or noob to make easy gains

 

[party_booye]

he's said his strength has went up. he is gaining, stregnth and weight... so I'm not sure why you think you're not?
have you messured your arms, legs, chest before starting the cycle and taking mesurements on the way to see gains that way?
you don't blow up one night and walk around like the hulk

 

[goin on 4T]

4 weeks of dbol ED he should of gained. something is wrong with his diet/training. stacked with test and deca no reason why he shouldn't have mass gains by now. that is a pure mass stack.. the best IMO for a non-pro or noob to make easy gains

He said he had gains just not what he had from his original first cycle. You also probably touched on a couple great points also. His diet? And what shape was he in when he started his cycle. You don't start a cycle with 25%+ BF LOL

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah no way would i run deca if i was over 15% bf unless i totally didn't care about looks

 

[Nelson Montana]

Steroids DO NOT take weeks to "kick in." That assumption has got to die.

I feel dbol after 4 days.

Something is wrong. If the stuff is real, your training/diet is sub par. There's no other reason.

 

[Night_Wolf]

He should be taking very high protein from diet cuz deca is nandrolone which increases protein synthesis alot and requires high protein diet to be effective.
But than again maybe is underdosed.

 

[drock111]

i dont know guyes! i guess i will see what happens. pretty dissapointed so far though