Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i did 6 sets for triceps the other day with was 3x5 with skull crushers, 2x10 with over head ext and 1 arm pressdown for 1x15. the rest on the skulls was about 2.5 mins between sets and the rests on the other movements were about one minuet. the tempo was 2-3 seconds on the netagive and about 1.5 seconds on the positive... i thought it was a nice workout, but i wasnt sore. is it beecause i didnt do enough or i did too much? or, does soreness not even matter? im pretty sure it doesnt connect with muscle growth seeing my calves are never sore and continue to grow.. any ideas?
not being sore
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BlondBomber
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I'm not familiar with the exercises that you normally do for triceps, but I would offer two exercises that I used when I powerlifted that really hammered my tri's: weighted dips and rack lockouts.
Skullcrushers are an excellent triceps builder, but when I want to spice up my routine I do both weighted dips and rack lockouts.
When I do rack lockouts I use varying grips, and they are fun because most lifters can use more weight than normal close-grip or supine benching motions.
Just my 2 cents.
Skullcrushers are an excellent triceps builder, but when I want to spice up my routine I do both weighted dips and rack lockouts.
When I do rack lockouts I use varying grips, and they are fun because most lifters can use more weight than normal close-grip or supine benching motions.
Just my 2 cents.
LeanMeanHockeyMachine
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If you worked your triceps to near-failure or failure and sounds like you did, then I wouldn't worry about it. Are you supplementing anything?
Tom Treutlein
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Soreness doesn't mean a thing. Your body adjusts to training and basically avoids getting sore. Learns to deal with lactic acid better, I guess.
NYBodyguard
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also when I do get sore on tris its usally 2 days after the workout
Yup, soreness, pump, "burn" are hype terms that don't necessarily equate to squat in terms of muscle growth. They may be motivating or pyschologically gratifying but do not mean much otherwise.Tom Treutlein said:
All that matters is getting stronger and developing your muscles.
I train hard and heavy and rarely get sore and still keep growing. Im get pissed if im sore, like today, my body didnt heal itself fast enough. Different gym the past two days and for the rest of this month, chest is perfectly fine from monday, but back is sore as hell today. I suspect it is from a wider pullup bar. Fortunately, soreness doesnt last long for me, so tomorrow i should be just fine.
TRUEsoldier
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If Growth is from muscle fibers tearing and rebuilding
I would assume that should hurt, which would lead me to belive that is where soreness comes from? To me if your not sore ever then you are not tearing them that much, the more sore the more you tore...
Just my .02
I would assume that should hurt, which would lead me to belive that is where soreness comes from? To me if your not sore ever then you are not tearing them that much, the more sore the more you tore...
Just my .02
Tom Treutlein
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Actually, that kind've makes sense, True. Only thing is, I think people get sore due to the leftover lactic acid in their system and once your body adjusts to training, it learns to flush out the acids more effectively.
Maybe that's not it at all though. I'm really not sure.
Maybe that's not it at all though. I'm really not sure.
For me personally, lack of soreness seems to mean that I am adapting to the routine and its time to increase the intensity or even try some new exercises. I need to constantly increase intensity and sometimes change things up to keep the soreness coming. I always strive for soreness.
TRUEsoldier
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Tom Treutlein said:
I'm not sure either, but it doesnt make sense that lactic acid would pool in an area for 24-48 hours! but I dont know. sounds like something good to read about, I'll have to do some research
TRUEsoldier
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Well I found this web site, it doesnt have much but something you can start from atleast
http://neworleans.fitdv.com/new/articles/article.html?artid=23
here is the extract from the site
2. WHY AM I SORE AFTER I WORK OUT?
You may have a muscle strain, but it's more likely that the soreness you experience after working out is due to delayed-onset muscle soreness (DOMS). DOMS occurs one to two days after high intensity training and lasts up to five. Researchers believe that minute tears in the muscle fiber and supporting connective tissue are responsible for all of that agony. Stretching before and after your workout can help alleviate the problem. Also, light massage and an aspirin or acetaminophen may alleviate the pain and improve your mobility. Muscle soreness should not last for more than a week. If you are experiencing a lot of pain you may have a muscle strain, so check with a doctor.
helps a little atleast
also, just search for "DOMS" on google, lots of articles to read...good luck
http://neworleans.fitdv.com/new/articles/article.html?artid=23
here is the extract from the site
2. WHY AM I SORE AFTER I WORK OUT?
You may have a muscle strain, but it's more likely that the soreness you experience after working out is due to delayed-onset muscle soreness (DOMS). DOMS occurs one to two days after high intensity training and lasts up to five. Researchers believe that minute tears in the muscle fiber and supporting connective tissue are responsible for all of that agony. Stretching before and after your workout can help alleviate the problem. Also, light massage and an aspirin or acetaminophen may alleviate the pain and improve your mobility. Muscle soreness should not last for more than a week. If you are experiencing a lot of pain you may have a muscle strain, so check with a doctor.
helps a little atleast
also, just search for "DOMS" on google, lots of articles to read...good luck
Tom Treutlein
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Well, then it's apparently not from lactic acid. Still, the soreness doesn't sound like a good thing, especially if you can make it go away by stretching. I forgot about doing extreme stretches with DC training, but it does work. I wouldn't think it's the type of muscle and connective tissue damage we'd want. Sounds like more of a byproduct of lifting that isn't necessary.
TRUEsoldier
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To me it makes sense cuz, we have all agreed that for muscles to grow, they have to tear! Therfore, as stated in the articles, when you tear them, the soreness is from that such tear. Of course if the soreness lasts longer than the usual few days, then you did more damage than good. so to me this means that it is a fine line you must walk, between tear for gain, and tear for injury! But all in all, you want soreness cuz it means you succesfully broke the muscle down!!
just my thoughts though
just my thoughts though
TRUEsoldier
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cwick0 said:
Understanded bro, but it still means at the point of tear it should be really sore! Now you might only be sore for a couple hours, a couple minutes (would be crazy), maybe a couple of days. But still you are sore due to muscle tear, but the length of soreness would vary?!
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