Non Test raising AAS

[fitzchivalry]

The concern with doing hormone panels is lowering endogenous T, but since he's already getting exogenous T, that's the only thing that would change. Like someone mentioned earlier, AAS will lower your body's production of T, but since he's already on TRT, that's not an issue anymore. Any extra gear is not going to get rid of the T that's being provided by the TRT, so hormone panels should be relatively uneffected.

Is this always the case? I'm on 200 mg of test cyp a week and androgel 5 grams a day and started using some Havoc (somewhat comparable to steroids like winny, t-bol, anavar, etc.) and am feeling a bit more fatigued/lethargic again, though I wasn't feeling super on the 200mg in the first place (better than I was, however). I could be imagining it because I did use an otc ph (1,4 AD Bold) and felt terrible on it so I was/am afraid of feeling like that again hence why I would only do real steroids except that I had bought this already and I've only heard good things about it from regular users as well. I had assumed the horrid feeling before was because of shutdown (no test), etc.
So I'm probably imagining it and there is no way that it is interfering with the absorption of the synthetic test I'm gettiing in some way and I'm not losing the effects of the test being used?

 

[needtogetaas]

Anything androgenic will raise T levels, something like Primo is so mild, the amount it adds will be negated by the slight suppression, so it'll be a wash.

If you do A LOT of Primo with nothing else, you will actually show LOWER T levels.

I was looking threw this thread waiting to see your post bro. I knew you would show up.

 

[galaxy]

I get tested every 6 months. I would imagine after a couple more tests your doctor is gonna eventually say this is where we want to be at, and just say to get blood work every 6 months also.

 

[Varga]

So, if I'm on 200mg test and 700mg primo/week my test levels at the doctor would be as if I'm just on 200mg of test and the primo has zero effect on my teststosterone test....

 

[fitzchivalry]

Is this always the case? I'm on 200 mg of test cyp a week and androgel 5 grams a day and started using some Havoc (somewhat comparable to steroids like winny, t-bol, anavar, etc.) and am feeling a bit more fatigued/lethargic again, though I wasn't feeling super on the 200mg in the first place (better than I was, however). I could be imagining it because I did use an otc ph (1,4 AD Bold) and felt terrible on it so I was/am afraid of feeling like that again hence why I would only do real steroids except that I had bought this already and I've only heard good things about it from regular users as well. I had assumed the horrid feeling before was because of shutdown (no test), etc.
So I'm probably imagining it and there is no way that it is interfering with the absorption of the synthetic test I'm gettiing in some way and I'm not losing the effects of the test being used?

Bump for self-assurance and probably simple answer.

 

[79steeler]

i get tested every 6 months. I would imagine after a couple more tests your doctor is gonna eventually say this is where we want to be at, and just say to get blood work every 6 months also.

+1

 

[Roc86]

Bump for self-assurance and probably simple answer.

why are you fucking with garbage prohormones in the first place? Youve got a nice HRT going as it is ... PHs are junk. God only knows what that shit will do to your lipids profile/liver values etc. Who knows, it may be androgenic enough to artificially raise test scores which would result in your doc cutting you back.

 

[SVPVRMAN]

Does the blood count test for free testosterone aswell? If not, you could throw in turinabol, or eq/masteron etc.

From what i am aware all AAS other than testosterone derivates LOWER serum testosterone levels due to HPTA shutdown, so you should be fine with anything.

 

[Big_Joe]

Doctor-patient confidentiality, ya know?

You should read those papers you signed when you first went to your doctor. You signed away you doctor patient privilege.

And just about every steroid can look like testosterone. Checkout this link:
Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - 43 Full Steroid Profiles!

They have a picture of the chemical composition of each steroid listed. Look at testosterone and then look at any other steroid. They all look similar because they are all based on testosterone. Even most of masteron looks similar to testosterone. But if the test is specific enough for testosterone then it will only detect testosterone. But if the lab uses techniques that are not specific enough to differentiate between other steroids and testosterone then you will test high for testosterone ( it's called a false positive ). But if the lab is doing a quantitative analysis you will probably be OK to do other roids because that test is very specific. You really can't be sure until you are tested what the lab detects.

If you know the labs name, if it isn't part of the doctors office or hospital, you might just try calling them and asking if the test they give for checking testosterone levels will read high if the patient is taking < insert whatever it is you want to take >. Don't tell the lab your real name and you should be OK.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Does the blood count test for free testosterone aswell? If not, you could throw in turinabol, or eq/masteron etc.

From what i am aware all AAS other than testosterone derivates LOWER serum testosterone levels due to HPTA shutdown, so you should be fine with anything.

Free Test is a separate test. Why use mast to artificially raise the FRee T score? USe UNLEASHED if you want your free T to be consistantly higher.