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- Thread starter Kangazoo
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Hmmm, I think any anabolic steriods will affect your testing no matter what it is
I'm on HRT too but I get tested every 3-4 months so I don;t understand why your doc is testing you so often....????
Besides a shot every 2 weeks is not optimal anyway....how do you feel about the 12th day or so? Do you feel the drop?
I'm on HRT too but I get tested every 3-4 months so I don;t understand why your doc is testing you so often....????
Besides a shot every 2 weeks is not optimal anyway....how do you feel about the 12th day or so? Do you feel the drop?
tell your doc to have him test you every 3 months, and to put you on 150mg weekly, not 200 every other week. 
Shit, you pay him, nd he approved the HRT tell him what you want. As long as it is reasonable, the doctor won't be in any trouble.
I told my doc I was using oxymetholone 100mg, and he was like "What the hell are you using that for?"
I told him to increase my strength and size.
He didn't look surprised. He told me that "Well, anadrol is safer than any drugs out there, besides testosterone, nandrolone and oxandrolone, that people are using for bodybuilding." He said other than the BP, it wasn't even a concern to run 150mg daily for your liver and that people with liver issues are caused by excessive drinking in almost all cases, not from oral steroids. He said I could run it for 2 months at 150mg without issues other than to watch my blood pressure. He's prescribed it to anemic children at 50mg daily for 6 months and said they don't have any problems at all with liver values and shit like that.
He told me to come in every week and have my BP tested by the nurse, just walk in whenever. And he said he'd order a hormone panel when I was finished.
He doesn't prescribe me anadrol, but he knows i'm taking it and he doesn't seem concerned.
Luckily, my doc originally started out in sports medicine and knows what the hell he is talking about when it comes to steroids. gotta love docs that don't have a stick up their ass when it comes to these things.
He also said before i left "I was wondering why you weigh 35 more pounds since th elast time I saw you. You look good." lol.
Your doc should give you 150mg weekly if you ask for it. It's not unreasonable. If he asks why, tell him you want it for gaining strength and muscle mass as opposed to 200 every other week. He should go for it if he isn't totally ignorant on the subject. sounds like because he already prescribed it that he knows osmething about it.
Shit, you pay him, nd he approved the HRT tell him what you want. As long as it is reasonable, the doctor won't be in any trouble.
I told my doc I was using oxymetholone 100mg, and he was like "What the hell are you using that for?"
I told him to increase my strength and size.
He didn't look surprised. He told me that "Well, anadrol is safer than any drugs out there, besides testosterone, nandrolone and oxandrolone, that people are using for bodybuilding." He said other than the BP, it wasn't even a concern to run 150mg daily for your liver and that people with liver issues are caused by excessive drinking in almost all cases, not from oral steroids. He said I could run it for 2 months at 150mg without issues other than to watch my blood pressure. He's prescribed it to anemic children at 50mg daily for 6 months and said they don't have any problems at all with liver values and shit like that.
He told me to come in every week and have my BP tested by the nurse, just walk in whenever. And he said he'd order a hormone panel when I was finished.
He doesn't prescribe me anadrol, but he knows i'm taking it and he doesn't seem concerned.
Luckily, my doc originally started out in sports medicine and knows what the hell he is talking about when it comes to steroids. gotta love docs that don't have a stick up their ass when it comes to these things.
He also said before i left "I was wondering why you weigh 35 more pounds since th elast time I saw you. You look good." lol.
Your doc should give you 150mg weekly if you ask for it. It's not unreasonable. If he asks why, tell him you want it for gaining strength and muscle mass as opposed to 200 every other week. He should go for it if he isn't totally ignorant on the subject. sounds like because he already prescribed it that he knows osmething about it.
true, and they won't run a test to find something besides testosterone and other natural hormones.
I'd just do it. why would the doc care as long as you are responsibly using it.
I was thinking the same things...most steroids SUPPRESS your body's production of testosterone, so if anything your docotor is either going to want to prescribe you more in your HRT or he's going to catch on and ask you what you're using, at which point you can just tell him.
Doctor-patient confidentiality, ya know?
Doctor-patient confidentiality, ya know?
Kangazoo
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Yeah, that's what i kinda thought. Im prob gonna just do some mast @ 300 ew.
That's a common misconception. People think that when you get bloodwork done or get drug tested it's some magical shit that will just list out to doctors everything that is currently in your system, when in reality specific compounds have to be tested for.
For example, I'm on probation and I get random drug screens. These screens test for amphetamines, THC(marijuana), opiates, and something else. I could snort coke and they'd have no idea unless they specifically tested my urine for that element(not that I do that).
For example, I'm on probation and I get random drug screens. These screens test for amphetamines, THC(marijuana), opiates, and something else. I could snort coke and they'd have no idea unless they specifically tested my urine for that element(not that I do that).
If he's on HRT, he's already fully suppressed.
If your doctor is monitoring your blood lipid profile and CBC, that will give it away more than anything else IMO.
R1
fitzchivalry
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What exactly is the problem with EQ? I didn't think it raises test levels (or I may be stupid here).
Maybe I was misinformed http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=267729 but I've read it in several places.
Maybe I was misinformed http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=267729 but I've read it in several places.
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Ok fellows...lets get back to basics
I'm not talking about detection of selected steroids...I'm talking about testosterone levels being influenced by steroids like deca, dbol, anadrol, primo etc...My take is that it will influence testosterone levels if it's checked for whatever, HRT or other things.
I've never had the balls to take anyhthing but my HRT dose of test when I went to get tested so I would like to know if anybody on HRT or for any other reasons took steroids and got an elevated testosterone level when checked. I know test and Eq will affect it does all steroids affect testosterone levels?
I'm not talking about detection of selected steroids...I'm talking about testosterone levels being influenced by steroids like deca, dbol, anadrol, primo etc...My take is that it will influence testosterone levels if it's checked for whatever, HRT or other things.
I've never had the balls to take anyhthing but my HRT dose of test when I went to get tested so I would like to know if anybody on HRT or for any other reasons took steroids and got an elevated testosterone level when checked. I know test and Eq will affect it does all steroids affect testosterone levels?
Barch
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I may be wrong, but if the OP is already on TRT, then other gear shouldn't really do anything, unless it's another form of Test (i.e. Andriol). The concern with doing hormone panels is lowering endogenous T, but since he's already getting exogenous T, that's the only thing that would change. Like someone mentioned earlier, AAS will lower your body's production of T, but since he's already on TRT, that's not an issue anymore. So, unless they were specifically testing for steroids-- as in a "doping" test-- there wouldn't be a problem. Any extra gear is not going to get rid of the T that's being provided by the TRT, so hormone panels should be relatively uneffected.
Anything androgenic will raise T levels, something like Primo is so mild, the amount it adds will be negated by the slight suppression, so it'll be a wash.
If you do A LOT of Primo with nothing else, you will actually show LOWER T levels.
If you do A LOT of Primo with nothing else, you will actually show LOWER T levels.
rockdoc
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Yes, but its going to be difficult to keep lipids within range on anavar. 2 months after my anavar only cycle I was still below normal.
fitzchivalry
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Is this always the case? I'm on 200 mg of test cyp a week and androgel 5 grams a day and started using some Havoc (somewhat comparable to steroids like winny, t-bol, anavar, etc.) and am feeling a bit more fatigued/lethargic again, though I wasn't feeling super on the 200mg in the first place (better than I was, however). I could be imagining it because I did use an otc ph (1,4 AD Bold) and felt terrible on it so I was/am afraid of feeling like that again hence why I would only do real steroids except that I had bought this already and I've only heard good things about it from regular users as well. I had assumed the horrid feeling before was because of shutdown (no test), etc.
So I'm probably imagining it and there is no way that it is interfering with the absorption of the synthetic test I'm gettiing in some way and I'm not losing the effects of the test being used?
needtogetaas
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I was looking threw this thread waiting to see your post bro. I knew you would show up.
fitzchivalry
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Bump for self-assurance and probably simple answer.
79steeler
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+1
Roc86
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why are you fucking with garbage prohormones in the first place? Youve got a nice HRT going as it is ... PHs are junk. God only knows what that shit will do to your lipids profile/liver values etc. Who knows, it may be androgenic enough to artificially raise test scores which would result in your doc cutting you back.
Big_Joe
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You should read those papers you signed when you first went to your doctor. You signed away you doctor patient privilege.
And just about every steroid can look like testosterone. Checkout this link:
Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - 43 Full Steroid Profiles!
They have a picture of the chemical composition of each steroid listed. Look at testosterone and then look at any other steroid. They all look similar because they are all based on testosterone. Even most of masteron looks similar to testosterone. But if the test is specific enough for testosterone then it will only detect testosterone. But if the lab uses techniques that are not specific enough to differentiate between other steroids and testosterone then you will test high for testosterone ( it's called a false positive ). But if the lab is doing a quantitative analysis you will probably be OK to do other roids because that test is very specific. You really can't be sure until you are tested what the lab detects.
If you know the labs name, if it isn't part of the doctors office or hospital, you might just try calling them and asking if the test they give for checking testosterone levels will read high if the patient is taking < insert whatever it is you want to take >. Don't tell the lab your real name and you should be OK.
Free Test is a separate test. Why use mast to artificially raise the FRee T score? USe UNLEASHED if you want your free T to be consistantly higher.
