Non-hepatoxic PH's?

[Tux]

I'm pretty sure Katanadrol v2.0 and v3.0 are non-toxic. After there any other PH's that are non-toxic? What about Gorilla Pharm Tren? Doesn't have to be a name brand, just chemical name will suffice. Thanks guys, trying to dedide what to run to harden up at the end of this recomp cycle. Leaning towares Katana V3.0 but always open to ideas!

 

[BigMikeC]

All of the prohormones at LG Sciences are non-hepatoxic mainly due to the fact that they're non-methylated. This is also why we use a liquid delivery system that actually uses the glands in your mouth to deliver the PH to your bloodstream rather than having to be broken down in your liver and then distributed. I have a couple I prefer depending on what I'm doing (bulking, cutting, recomp, etc). PH-17 for cutting, PH-19 for bulking, M1d/ MM3 for recomp. I find that the M1d black actually compliment's any cycle I'm on . I find that it keeps me looking full and keeps my strengths gains coming.

 

[notjake11]

All of the prohormones at LG Sciences are non-hepatoxic mainly due to the fact that they're non-methylated. This is also why we use a liquid delivery system that actually uses the glands in your mouth to deliver the PH to your bloodstream rather than having to be broken down in your liver and then distributed. I have a couple I prefer depending on what I'm doing (bulking, cutting, recomp, etc). PH-17 for cutting, PH-19 for bulking, M1d/ MM3 for recomp. I find that the M1d black actually compliment's any cycle I'm on . I find that it keeps me looking full and keeps my strengths gains coming.

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[Tux]

Sorry can't trust anything you said bro, you just sound like you're pushing your product, no offense. Anyone else know any non-methylated PH's?

 

[infraredline]

Sorry can't trust anything you said bro, you just sound like you're pushing your product, no offense. Anyone else know any non-methylated PH's?

I'm pretty sure any any ph or steroid you take orally is going to put some stress on your liver since it has to pass through it to be absorbed unless you get something like andriol (oral testosterone undeconate) that gets absorbed by your lymphatic system

 

[Tux]

Not exactly true bro... most things "pass through" the liver without ever really stressing it. Only certain agents that have been specifically modified or methylated to survive the first-pass effect actually stress the liver. Otherwise, we'd all kill our livers by taking all the other supps we take. There are non-hepatoxics out there like katana, I just wondered if there were any others I should look into.

 

[infraredline]

Not exactly true bro... most things "pass through" the liver without ever really stressing it. Only certain agents that have been specifically modified or methylated to survive the first-pass effect actually stress the liver. Otherwise, we'd all kill our livers by taking all the other supps we take. There are non-hepatoxics out there like katana, I just wondered if there were any others I should look into.

Haha good point, I like the we'd all be dead from all the sups we take part

 

[Tux]

Lol well it's kinda true Unless someone else chimes in here, I'll just keep researching and hope to find something. If not, well I've still got a bottle of Katana V2.0 and a bottle of 3.0 on the way so those should do the trick this time to harden me up and lean me waay out before I hit PCT hard. Thanks for looking bro!

 

[joeblow12345]

Bro your best bet is running the katana v3 and n2guard. I use n2guard with all my orals and tren and it works great. If it can protect me from the harsh shit I run you'll be fine on katana.


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[Tux]

Got the guard already, just waiting for the katana now. Still would like more options, since if they're non-hepatoxic I can stack them for better gains!

 

[joeblow12345]

Got the guard already, just waiting for the katana now. Still would like more options, since if they're non-hepatoxic I can stack them for better gains!

I'd stack the katana with rstransaderm. That stack would yield solid gains.


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[BigMikeC]

Of coarse I'm going talk about my own product. That being said I've tried all the products WE make and speak from personal experience's. I've tried many non methylated prohormones and the dose I had to take to elicit effects wasn't cost effective nor really that effective at all. I haven't tried Katanadrol so I can't speak on its effectiveness but I've tried most of LGs' so speak from what I know. My last cycle of Ph19 and M1d Black I gained around 12lbs during s heavy bulk.

 

[Jigga14]

Of coarse I'm going talk about my own product. That being said I've tried all the products WE make and speak from personal experience's. I've tried many non methylated prohormones and the dose I had to take to elicit effects wasn't cost effective nor really that effective at all. I haven't tried Katanadrol so I can't speak on its effectiveness but I've tried most of LGs' so speak from what I know. My last cycle of Ph19 and M1d Black I gained around 12lbs during s heavy bulk.

12 pounds on a "heavy bulk" is peanuts. I crap 12 pounds daily.

 

[joeblow12345]

12 pounds on a "heavy bulk" is peanuts. I crap 12 pounds daily.

Lol.


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[Tux]

Joe I'll still be on "real" test at that point so I don't think transaderm would help much, but thanks for the though. BigMikeC, despite my better judgement I ordered some of your PH-17 and PH-19... at least this way the board will have a trusted member to report on then one way or the other. Can't wait till next month!

 

[kfriesen]

Im interested to hear bout the ph 17/19. please be sure to post your thoughts

 

[riskyb]

One of the best non methyls out there that actually works is Trenazone. I've also heard about andro series, but with mixed reviews

 

[BigMikeC]

Thatta boy Tux look forward to hearing your review! Jigga14 I guess the 12lbs is all relative to bodyfat% to muscle ratio. Not to mention my weight had plateaued at 240lbs. The ph19 and m1d black helped me break my through to around 252lbs.

 

[Tux]

I noticed this stuff is liquid and says it's best absorbed by holding it btw cheek and gum for sublingual absorption several times a day. Is this really necessary? Does it taste like ass? I'll do what it takes to get the most out of it but ya know, if I can just cap it and swallow that's alot easier Starts in just over 2 weeks! BigMikeC this would've been alot easier if you accepted PM's