No Testosterone = Lethargy?

[zips92]

Bros, not sure if I am right or wrong, and may not be a revelation to some, but I think I fugured out something on my own for a change, and wanted to run it by you........

I am currently on a Deca/Winny cycle (3rd straight Deca cycle with no test), and I have hit a wall like I never have ever before. Not training mind you, but everyday activities, like working and driving. I literally have negative energy and enthusiasm, and my cognitive abilities are definitiely affected for the worse (I don't even feel like thinking or solving problems). I have recently had significant trouble staying awake at work (during the day), driving, and watching TV. Folks at work even say I walk noticably slower around the office, and I have to sit/lay down as soon as I get home.

I have read a lot of threads that say something like "Why am I so f****ing tired?", and never thought too much about it, but now I sure am. I am also a little scared too because I have had too many close calls at work and in the car. My revelation is this.......

The nandrolone based AAS is shutting me down hard, and I am not helping my body. While I have made many posts indicating I don't mind the traditional Deca sides like decrease in libido and limp-dick, I am starting to realize (I think) that there is more to taking test with Deca or Tren than just having libido, no test at all has far reaching effects and implications. I don't have problems once I start my workouts, those seem fine, but just getting up in the morning, deciding what to eat, driving to work, walking across the office, answering e-mails, are all laborious tasks. I am 37, and have never been this lethargic in my life. I don't necessarily take much time off b/w cycles, but I usually hit hcg, tribulus, Clomid or Nolva, and 8 weeks later, I am off and running again.

Is there merit to this, and just having no test in my body is draining me beyond end?? I don't want to have to live on RedBull or CardioBreeze every single day......and even with that I am struggling?

 

[Beachboy6294]

Damn bro I feel for you! That is why I have never run a cycle without Test in it because I have heard so many stories like that! I don't know enough about it to break it down but I think you should add some Test to your cycle if possible. That is a long time without any added Test and all that deca even though some people have no problem with it I think at our ages you need test! Good luck...

 

[silverbackn]

Your body needs test for many reasons to function optimally. I will never run a cycle without test.

 

[64Pilot]

Shit bro I feel for ya..I get dog tired even while on test. HGH, IGF, and AAS really make me lathargic as hell.. Though the first 4 weeks of a cycle when I jump start it with dbol, are great

 

[exidous]

i had great energy before my cycle and now during (test only) im tired all the time!! i think if you have a balance in hormones you wont get this way anymore. go get blood work, that will tell you exactly whats wrong. just my thoughts.

 

[maldorf]

I get that way right after I finish my pct. After being off for about 6 weeks I really start to feel that, always figured it was low test. Really starting to consider just using a bridge of about 250 mg/wk of test.

 

[sonofkong]

good post bro... wow, primo winni and var and i feel EXACTLY how you do, i thought i wrote this post myself minus the deca. there has to be a better explanation for this... vets?

 

[sonofkong]

btw.. this is prob why i posted about primo and low sex drive... huh, funny how things turn out.. anyway ive got some d-bol on hand, whats the lowest dose i could take to help with this problem?

 

[bigtravis]

i have to take caffeine pills during the day. if i didn't do that, i really wouldn't be worth a fuck and certain peeps would get piiiisssssed.

 

[LVTitan]

i dont cycle test anymore, but i dont stay on for longer than about 3months at a time either..
if i do start to notice something like that, i will ONLY run a maint dose probably of sust at 0.5cc week to try to stay around natty levels.

 

[zips92]

if i do start to notice something like that, i will ONLY run a maint dose probably of sust at 0.5cc week to try to stay around natty levels.

Well said, that's what I have beeen "thinking" about......

 

[sonofkong]

more info on this mos def! this will also help out novices when the intro to test has not been introduced due to various reasons.

 

[Ulter]

Bro how can you read this board for 5 months and still not use test in your cycle?
What were you thinkin?

Get some dbol and take AT LEAST 10mg/day

 

[sonofkong]

its as simple as this.... primo winni var and keep my hair no titties low sex drive and post cycle is smoooth. or i could throw in some test want to fuck like a donkey with no hair along with a wonder bra from the gap, oh yea not to mention bad acne and lots of water bloat. obviously i hate fucking test sides and i know that this is just mo, but still ill work a little bit harder and longer for better kasting gains, makes sence to me and im sure lots of others would agree. test is not for everyone bro. yea bla bla i can control sides and all that. ill stick with primo as my base. later.

 

[LVTitan]

test is not for me either, i'll stick to deca as my base

 

[ALIN]

this is one reason i suggest test as a base for almost every cycle.