NEWBIE don't be afraid of Tren!!

[barbell265]

good post Realgains

Excellent post Bro'!! I did a fina cycle for 8 wks, first in 5 years for any gear. Made it myself and had a good time with it!! Gains were tremendous over the 8 weeks, I was very impressed! Now three weeks post cycle I have lost some BW and some off the top of my bench but no one seems to have noticed any major size loss, and I don't think it's too bad. I would love to have kept it all but ohh well!!

Any way, good post I agree with your take on tren!

 

[decadense]

Are all the people who have reported darkened urine and lower back pain crazy or just lying?

 

[Realgains]

Are all the people who have reported darkened urine and lower back pain crazy or just lying?

Many things can cause this and the most common is a kidney injection from unsterile gear and or pins used more than once.

Now where exactly is kidney pain?....it is NOT in the low back bro's. Kidney pain is quite high up on the flank and almost to the sides. Often this kidney pain is no more than low back pumps that you usually get while on many types of gear. They get the terrible low back pain/pump and they say that it has to be the tren causing kidney pain.

If these people did ONLY tren and they where absolutely sure of the sterilty of the tren then they may have a case. In most cases that I have heard about the bro has used other gear along with the tren and they where not 100% sure of sterility because they used vet gear or home made tren.
A person needs to be sure that their gear is sterile if he is using vet gear or home made tren. The only way to be sure is to pasturize the stuff yourself. Filtering and the Benzyl alcohol does not always get all the bugs.
This is how.....take some air out of the vials. Then place them in a water bath and pasturize at 160 degree F for 30 minutes. Use a candy thermometer to keep the heat constant.($3) An electric frying pan and or deep fat fryer works best. DO NOT bake the tren at 250 degrees F. Bill Roberts and a good friend of mine, who is a steroid using pathologist ,both say that it will damage the hormone...too high!

BTW many bros have had darkening urine and so called kidney pain on all sort of gear. Remenber if you take a lot of vitimans while "on" then your urine will certainly be darker. Also you may not be drinking enough water.

 

[decadense]

Bill Roberts has also stated that kidney damage from tren is a myth. But he just based that on published studies. Kind of an armchair expert if you ask me.

 

[Realgains]

Bill Roberts has also stated that kidney damage from tren is a myth. But he just based that on published studies. Kind of an armchair expert if you ask me.

Bro you don't know Bill Roberts do you? Bill has been doing gear for many many years and he is a walking steroid internet. He loves tren and has used it many many times. He has also personally coached many bro's including pro's

He is far from an arm chair expert bro

 

[decadense]

Bro you don't know Bill Roberts do you? Bill has been doing gear for many many years and he is a walking steroid internet. He loves tren and has used it many many times. He has also personally coached many bro's including pro's

He is far from an arm chair expert bro

I apologize.

 

[the UNDERTAKER]

ok realgains......you changed my opinion on tren. which was exactly that- literature fed opinion. but haven't people done 50-75 mg eod also or am i dreaming?? and to you NEWBIE tren users how is tren as related to cns stimulation??? that is my main concern????------------------and great post bro!!!

 

[Realgains]

ok realgains......you changed my opinion on tren. which was exactly that- literature fed opinion. but haven't people done 50-75 mg eod also or am i dreaming?? and to you NEWBIE tren users how is tren as related to cns stimulation??? that is my main concern????------------------and great post bro!!!

75 every other day will work but daily will work better. I strongly recommend daily injections and with a 27 or even 29 pin and an insulin syringe it is a breeze. (you can get these pins 1.5 inches long for the glutes)
There really is no need to go over 75 per day as this amount will fully saturate androgen receptors....even 50 is great. The odd guy will find that 100 works best but these bro's are rare. Usually 100 gives no better results than 75.
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Tren has great CNS stimulation but not to the point of causing problems.

 

[Silent Method]

Thousands of ladies take Tamoxifen around the world with no sides at all.

Not true. I have a limited understanding regarding this, but, in some tissues, tamoxifen activates the estrogen receptor much the same way that estrogen does. Women with uterine cancer can't touch nolvadex, and doctors shy away from using it with women who may be "predisposed" to uterine cancer.

I have no idea if tamoxifen has "estrogenic" effects in any male tissues.

However, other than these possibilites, I feel nolvadex is perfectly safe to use for our purposes.


BTW, other than this minor point, I like the info in this thread. Karma for Realgains. I'm a step closer to my first fina cycle!

 

[Realgains]

Not true. I have a limited understanding regarding this, but, in some tissues, tamoxifen activates the estrogen receptor much the same way that estrogen does. Women with uterine cancer can't touch nolvadex, and doctors shy away from using it with women who may be "predisposed" to uterine cancer.

I have no idea if tamoxifen has "estrogenic" effects in any male tissues.

However, other than these possibilites, I feel nolvadex is perfectly safe to use for our purposes.


BTW, other than this minor point, I like the info in this thread. Karma for Realgains. I'm a step closer to my first fina cycle!

Bro Bro Bro.....tamoxifen is used by ladies that have had breast cancer and almost al of them get no sides and they use it for many years. The uterus issue is true though.

It is estrogenic in men bro and thats why men with heart disease have seen such an improvement in all blood study indicators especially hdl.