NEWBIE don't be afraid of Tren!!

[HighIntensity]

RG-

this is what I have been saying all along, and why im doing a 14 week cycle of tren...

 

[40butpumpin]

Thousands of ladies take Tamoxifen around the world with no sides at all. Some cardiologists are giving it to men as well and with good results. If cardiac conduction problems are an issue then it would have been made very clear by now.
I really would not worry about what you have read. If it does happen it is so rare that it isn't even listed as a side in the PDR.

The only good way to keep total serum cholesterol down and especially HDL up while "on" 17 aa roids and especially estrogen inhibitors is to substitute an estrogen in the liver. Both Clomid and nolva act as estrogens in the liver and it is this estrogen that is protective.
Bill Roberts has had good results from using clomid during a cycle for this reason.
If you decide to stay away from Nolvadex and are really concerned with hdl and total cholesterol then do not use ANY 17aa roids or any estrogen inhibitors. Colmid could be your other choice though but clomid and Nolvadex are almost exactly the same.

As you probably already know the following dietary changes can help with the hdl/ldl issue.........avoid trans fatty acids, that is ALL cooking oils except cold pressed olive oil and a little butter. Margine is loaded with trans fats. Eat plenty of omega 6 and especailly omega 3 oils ie: salmon, tuna and oil supplements. Never fry anything with butter or olive oil above 250 degree F.
Avoid saturated fat like the plague(animal fat)
Avoid anything that has partially hydrogenated oil or vegetable oil shortening(trans fats)
Limit total cholesterol intake although saturated fat is way worse.

EXCELLENT points, help and information. As far as the diet, I'm with you already, I take huge amounts of EFA's and avoid saturated fats like the plague. Just gotta get my hands on some Clomid now....Argh! lol Thanks for taking the time to help me out, huge Karma for you brother.

 

[Realgains]

RG-

this is what I have been saying all along, and why im doing a 14 week cycle of tren...

Here is a tip for those like you that go on long cycles.......
use H C G at 500 iu's every day the last two weeks of your cycle.......your nuts will shrink a lot from 14 weeks of tren and then they will not respond as quickly as they could to LH. Get the boys up to snuff before the cycle ends and then hit the clomid hard and long. Fast recovery is more important than big gains during a cycle.

 

[HighIntensity]

Here is a tip for those like you that go on long cycles.......
use H C G at 500 iu's every day the last two weeks of your cycle.......your nuts will shrink a lot from 14 weeks of tren and then they will not respond as quickly as they could to LH. Get the boys up to snuff before the cycle ends and then hit the clomid hard and long. Fast recovery is more important than big gains during a cycle.

I hear ya, but HCG is dirty stuff...Im going to try maca in high doses 2 weeks before I end tren. Then its time to throw clomid and the kitchen sink at the little fellas to bring em home'

keep in mind while my cycle is long im only doing 75mgs EOD

 

[Realgains]

I hear ya, but HCG is dirty stuff...Im going to try maca in high doses 2 weeks before I end tren. Then its time to throw clomid and the kitchen sink at the little fellas to bring em home'

keep in mind while my cycle is long im only doing 75mgs EOD

I don't know bro....H C G is used a lot by docs and users.. But good luck with your plans

 

[young guns]

No prob with the insurance issue....just don't tell your doc that you have been on juice as he will chart that and if the insurance company ever finds out then they will not pay.

i've never done a cycle and i've never smoked pot, but i did a fair share of drinking last year when i got the problem (but 2 days of hard partyin a week is still less than alot of college students), so maybe that had something to do with it. but in my case, insurance should cover it right? by the way i was takin methoxygen for about 3 weeks when i noticed the problem startin, so even though thats supposed to be nonhormonal it may have had some effect on that too (according to my uncle who is a doc suppressing cortisol too much could lead to gyno indirectly). but like i said, never done any steroids or prohormones for that matter, unless you count the methoxygen which has androtriol and tribulus.

 

[bodybuildr]

Fina Rocks !!!

 

[solidspine]

Realgains

Do you buy Tren or make your own fina?

 

[Realgains]

Realgains

Do you buy Tren or make your own fina?

Make it without a kit.....no need for a kit. See my post...."you don't need a fina kit bro's".

Have used kits in the past though and they are all just fine.

 

[bighead]

You definitely deserve some karma for this thread Realgains

karma to you my friend!