NEWBIE don't be afraid of Tren!!

[Realgains]

For the more aggressive newbie 500 of test cyp or enanthate per week will really improve on the above cycle. You better have nolvadex on hand though, or half a tab of arimidex per day.

If you add the test in this larger dose then run it for the same 4 weeks. Front load 600 on day one and then do biweekly injections starting three days later at 250. This is a mild front load yet it will really help get the test up and running quickly. Who the heck needs toxic d-bol to kick start a cycle he he he

You could extend the cycle to 6 weeks of tren/test and then stop both and hit the clomid 14 day latter.

OR for the ultimate...... .you could stop the test after week 6 and continue with the tren through week 8 and hit clomid three days latter. This will "harden" you up since during the two weeks without test you will loose the water gain from the test yet you will continue to build lean mass due to the tren. You won't get much bloat while on arimidex and even the Nolav helps a little here.

The last cycle here will likely get ya 20-25 pounds if you are not at your natural limit and you should keep about 20 of that IF you recover natural test levels quickly......do the clomid like I planned it. If you have been lifting for years and are stuck at your natural limit then you should keep about 15 pounds of muscle, maybe a bit more, with this cycle and a lot of strength and that is really great.

NOBODY really ever needs any hormones other than TREN and TEST. This is the ultimate dual bar none.

 

[scarylarry]

Realgains that was an excellent post, thanks for the info. I am about to make fina with a kit (animals) and was wondering if you or anyone else for the matter has any last words of advice that I could use in preparing the fina itself ie, tips or shortcuts. Thanks.

 

[Realgains]

it would still be benificial to take it during that cycle because of the omnadren though, right?

YES bro YES....but topical spiro and Nizorol shampoo will work just as good and even better for some.

 

[blaster220]

Tren was the first compound I ever used, and I don't regret it

I'll be posting a write up once my current cycle wraps up, along with before and after pics/stats.

 

[steelhdman]

So what is the solution to get rid of puffy nipples someone got from tren at 50 mg/day then? Must not be gyno, puffy nipples are nothing to worry about right? Even when they dont go away after 3 months.

 

[Realgains]

Realgains that was an excellent post, thanks for the info. I am about to make fina with a kit (animals) and was wondering if you or anyone else for the matter has any last words of advice that I could use in preparing the fina itself ie, tips or shortcuts. Thanks.

YES.........don't make it stronger per mg....stick with the 75mg per ml formula. 100 per ml is a little painful due to the higher Benzyl alcohol concentration and 150 hurts like crazy.

BTW....check out my "You don't need a fina kit post"

 

[G-Man]

Realgains!!!!

Hey Realgains do you think i will get that much bloat from 200mg of Test with the Tren? I'm going to be doing 50mg ED Winny\and 80mg of Fina ED. I do not have any Nolva on hand but i do have Clomid. So i want to keep my sex drive up so i could take the Test but i do not want any water gain. Thanks!!

G-Man

 

[Realgains]

Re: Realgains!!!!

Hey Realgains do you think i will get that much bloat from 200mg of Test with the Tren? I'm going to be doing 50mg ED Winny\and 80mg of Fina ED. I do not have any Nolva on hand but i do have Clomid. So i want to keep my sex drive up so i could take the Test but i do not want any water gain. Thanks!!

G-Man

You will not get much if any bloat from 200. You could take the Nolva at 20mg per day..... it will help if you do get some bloat but more importantly Tamoxifen acts as an estrogen at the liver and helps keep cholesterol down and hdl up while on 17 aa roids like Winny.

 

[Realgains]

So what is the solution to get rid of puffy nipples someone got from tren at 50 mg/day then? Must not be gyno, puffy nipples are nothing to worry about right? Even when they dont go away after 3 months.

I had gyno and I am also an OR nurse that operates on gyno .

Gyno is breast tissue ....HARD STUFF under the nipple. Puffy nipples?....I don't know about that really but I doubt if it is gyno. If you were going to get breast tissue then you would have already gotten lumps bro.


BTW gyno surgery is a snap and leaves a very tiny scar along the lower nipple line that you cannot see unless you look very closely.

 

[young guns]

hair loss is not passed from the mothers side only, it's not sex linked. i don't claim to be an expert on this, but i just finished taking a genetics class. it's an autosomal trait, pass from both parents. in males, it's dominant (1 or 2 copies and you;'ll experience hair loss), while in females its recessive (must have both copies of the allele), so it's sex influenced but not sex linked. the degree of hair loss, age it starts, ect. are affected by many other factors, not just the allele for hair loss. so just by looking at your mothers father doesn't guarantee you will or won't suffer hair loss. and the susceptibility depends on alot more than just waht your grandpa looks like.

as far as taking finasteride with tren , there was a big debate on whether tren is deactivated by 5ar enzyme. it is definitely not converted to DHT, but some believe it is converted to a weaker form, like nandrolone is converted to DHN. i don't know if a conclusion if it is or isn't was ever reached, but if it is deactivated by it, then stopping deactivation would be a bad idea (much like taking finasteride with deca). like realgains said, topical spiro, nizoral, and maybe some other topical stuff would be good, but stay away from the 5ar inhibitors (finasteride, alazeic acid, saw palmetto) unless you know for sure tren is not affected by 5ar enzyme.

as far as finasteride with boldenone, it couldn't hurt. like realgains said, it's only 5alpha reduced to a small degree, but the finasteride would help with this. boldenone is instead mostly 5beta reduced. i have no clue on the tissue distribution of the 5beta reductase enzyme, or whether or not it converts boldenone to a stronger or weaker androgen. but from what i've seen, most people don't have major hair loss problems with boldenone.