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newbie cycle (sus/dbol), comments welcome

The_Mexican

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I was planning on starting a cycle in the near future, and I was thinking of one along these lines:

Sustanon250 every 4 days for 10 weeks
D-bol 25 mgs/day for 4 weeks
Clomid post cycle
.5 arimidex e.o.d throughout cycle
nolva on hand in case of gyno

How does that look to you guys? Anything missing?
 
Your cycle is not heavy so don't worry about anti-estrogens. Just have them just in case you start to show signs of gyno or ball shrinkage!
 
swoldier said:
Your cycle is not heavy so don't worry about anti-estrogens. Just have them just in case you start to show signs of gyno or ball shrinkage!

Then I would want to ask if sust every 4 days is enough for a newbie cycle like this, or EOD? Also, as far as anti - es go, what do you feel should be kept on hand for a cycle like this? Can the arimidex be crossed off for something cheaper?
 
The_Mexican said:
Also, still trying to decide between arimidex or liquidex. I'm shooting for quality, even if it costs a bit more, though.

go with the liquidex. It works great and its a hell of alot cheaper than zeneca tabs
 
The_Mexican said:
I was planning on starting a cycle in the near future, and I was thinking of one along these lines:

Sustanon250 every 4 days for 10 weeks
D-bol 25 mgs/day for 4 weeks
Clomid post cycle
.5 arimidex e.o.d throughout cycle
nolva on hand in case of gyno

How does that look to you guys? Anything missing?

Some might throw in deca, too. It's a mixed opinion on that one.
 
I'd frontload with 750mg of sust the first week, then run it at 500mg every week, and up the dbol to at least 30mg if not 40mg for a total of 5-6 weeks. If you want some truly amazing results, try adding 400-600mg of Eq a week. Done this way, you will keep a lot more of your gains, and will make a lot more gains as well.
 
I think your cycle looks great as is. You won't need arimidex at those amounts. You would just be wasting your time with it. I would keep nolva on hand though or even use 10mg ed. You are using d-bol, so no need to front load in my opinion. Eq is a good addition, but I wouldn't do more than 200-300mg per week, asuming this is your first cycle. Other than the above mentioned changes, looks great. Good luck, keep us posted.
 
The_Mexican said:
I was planning on starting a cycle in the near future, and I was thinking of one along these lines:

Sustanon250 every 4 days for 10 weeks
D-bol 25 mgs/day for 4 weeks
Clomid post cycle
.5 arimidex e.o.d throughout cycle
nolva on hand in case of gyno

How does that look to you guys? Anything missing?

NO. at least no A.S. are missing. Since it's your first, you will grow like a MF'er. That's plenty for a first cycle. The anti-e's look good too. I don't like to hold water so I use liquidex throughout ... but not absolutely necessary with nolva on hand.

As long as your diet and training are in check ... that is more important than adding more A.S.
 
looks good bro, alot of guys are telling you to use more than what you need for your first time...stick with 250mg/wk, you'll like it if your diet is on with your training...
 
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