New Cycle-comments welcome

[Trenjamin]

Alright, first off not a noob but not near as experienced as many folks here. I'm putting together my next cycle and I'm looking strictly for mass here. I'm at about 225 lbs and am in the teen's for body fat, not sure exactly and don't really care at this point. Here's what I got planned, let me know your thoughts, advice is appreciated. Diet and training are consistent as I've been doing both for several years. Very common cycle but with all the ones I've done, I have yet to do this one as laid out.

I will do between 12-14 weeks.

Test E: 750 EW
Deca: 600 EW
Dianabol (kickstart) 50 mg ED for first 4-6 weeks.

hCG throughout at 500 iu's every 3 days

I have tamox, clomid, and adex on hand but don't plan to use any of them during cycle unless I need it, which I might with deca after a several weeks. It's a pretty simple cycle but I have it set at what I feel is effective doses and want to keep the pinning down to two needles a week this way to minimize scar tissue. Will also take Cycle Support or Cycle Assist for cycle support.

PCT: Tamox 40/40/20/20, DAA

 

[Texas Monster]

Your still a noob if you want to cycle deca and use nolva for your PCT.

Take your nolva and throw it away. That is what it is good for.

Decca only needs to be ran 10 weeks and that is it.

I would run npp instead because you get a quicker clearing time and can gain all the benefits of decca without the sides that come later.

Here is my ideal Nandralone cycle.

Week 1-12 Test c 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 1-4 Tbol 40 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60 mg
Week 1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 12-18 N2slin
Week 5-8 Hcgenerate
Week 7-14 HCG 500 ius
Week 1-14 N2gaurd

Week 15 PCT
Hcgenerate
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
Daa
PCT+Unleashed

19-22
Phytoserms 347
Bridge
DAA

 

[Trenjamin]

Your still a noob if you want to cycle deca and use nolva for your PCT.

Take your nolva and throw it away. That is what it is good for.

Decca only needs to be ran 10 weeks and that is it.

I would run npp instead because you get a quicker clearing time and can gain all the benefits of decca without the sides that come later.

Here is my ideal Nandralone cycle.

Week 1-12 Test c 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 1-4 Tbol 40 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60 mg
Week 1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 12-18 N2slin
Week 5-8 Hcgenerate
Week 7-14 HCG 500 ius
Week 1-14 N2gaurd

Week 15 PCT
Hcgenerate
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
Daa
PCT+Unleashed

19-22
Phytoserms 347
Bridge
DAA

Thanks for the info, however, I have had success with nolva including a previous deca cycle so I know it works for me, plus I've tried clomid and don't like it. I actually like torem the best of the three. I do have formestane on hand that I can add to my pct. As for the tbol, I'd rather have dbol but I will look into it more. The reason I didn't go with NPP is because I can only find it at 100mg/ml which would mean 5-6 cc's for that alone each week, more then double the standard deca. I like the caber and winny ideas and will add those in.

 

[Mekat]

what do u mean uve had "success" with nolva?? without getting bloods done u'll never know if uve actually recovered, even if ur dick starts working again,

..anyway look into (nolva and deca prolactin issues) its been discussed many many times, in this forum and others, and dont run this cycle without caber or prami.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

dont be a jackass bro. Nolva is garbage and can also cause blood clots. Not to mention if used with a nadrolone can cause some serious issues.

 

[Texas Monster]

Thanks for the info, however, I have had success with nolva including a previous deca cycle so I know it works for me, plus I've tried clomid and don't like it. I actually like torem the best of the three. I do have formestane on hand that I can add to my pct. As for the tbol, I'd rather have dbol but I will look into it more. The reason I didn't go with NPP is because I can only find it at 100mg/ml which would mean 5-6 cc's for that alone each week, more then double the standard deca. I like the caber and winny ideas and will add those in.

NPP first off does not have to be ran that high.

For NPP a good weekly dosage is anywhere from 350-420 mg a week.

That is 1ml eod if dosed at 100 mg / ml or 1.2 ml eod dosed at 100 mg / ml

So two bottles at 350 mg per week would last 6 weeks.

Three bottles at 420 mg would last 7 weeks

It is not that expensive and if you are complaining about cost you need to not be running hormones right now.

And Did you really recover fine with nolva? Did you know that nolva upregulates progesterone receptors and makes you more susceptable to rebound gyno during pct?

How much clomid were you running during PCT? If it was anything over 50mg then no shit you didnt like it because you were getting all the side effects with only the benefits of running a small dose such as 25 mg.

Did you know nolva does nothing to restore HPTA function?

Did you get blood work to confirm this?

And you ABSOLUTELY NEED EITHER CABER OR PRAMI WITH A 19 NOR NO EXCEPTIONS.

The cycle I laid out for you is legit and GTG with a nandralone.

I have had plenty of experience with DECA and can tell you this is the best way to run the compound.

But dont take my advice and keep running nolva in your PCT and keep feeling like shit and get gyno. No skin off my nose.

 

[joeblow12345]

Your still a noob if you want to cycle deca and use nolva for your PCT.

Take your nolva and throw it away. That is what it is good for.

Decca only needs to be ran 10 weeks and that is it.

I would run npp instead because you get a quicker clearing time and can gain all the benefits of decca without the sides that come later.

Here is my ideal Nandralone cycle.

Week 1-12 Test c 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 1-4 Tbol 40 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60 mg
Week 1-10 caber .5 mg e3d
Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
Week 12-18 N2slin
Week 5-8 Hcgenerate
Week 7-14 HCG 500 ius
Week 1-14 N2gaurd

Week 15 PCT
Hcgenerate
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
Daa
PCT+Unleashed

19-22
Phytoserms 347
Bridge
DAA

This is gtg. I know some people refuse to let nolva go, but if you run pct like this you wont go back to nolva.

NTBM REP

 

[Trenjamin]

lol wow! What's with the hostility? I'm allowed to have my own opinion and ask questions when I run into conflicting information or things I don't understand. This is my body I'm doing this to so I'm the one that needs to feel comfortable with it. If you're going to be a dick then just don't post. For those who actually offered advice, I appreciate it. I've only done a few AAS cycles and am tired of playing with PH's.

TexasM, it was a higher dose that I ran the clomid at which could explain my aversion. I still have it and will try it out at the lower 25 mg/day. No tapering? BTW, I wasn't complaining about cost, I just don't like to pin 3-4 different locations at once every time. Thanks for the info on NPP, I don't know anything about that one so I'm still researching it.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

dont be a jackass bro. Nolva is garbage and can also cause blood clots. Not to mention if used with a nadrolone can cause some serious issues.

^^^ This not hostility this is facts.

 

[Texas Monster]

There is no need for tapering unless you are doing a milder cycle.

For 19-nors though you will need the 4 weeks at 25 mg