Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Damn Nelson, a guy throws you a bone and you still do not have the sense to grab it! <GRIN> Just for the fun of it, do a medline search on "substrate utilization" and "exercise" and after reading the 272 abstracts tell me all of them are flawed. I know that there are some out there that your approach appeals to but for me, I prefer to have my diet and exercise more founded in science and experience. i have reread this entire post and in it you have made some very sensible comments and some of the most outrageous illogical non-sequitors I have read in a long time. To bad you are unable to temper your approach to include some science and work on your logical powers of arguement. This thread has been the most entertaining one I have participated in in a long time, even learned some things so I grade it an A+, if nothing else you have an uncanny ability to stir things up! Good luck with your book. If you send me a free copy, I will read it and give you my unbiased opinion! <GRIN>
Nelson Montana-I'm calling you out!
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Freak Monster: I'd explain the Roman Chair sit-up but according to you I can't answer a simple fucking question, so I guess you're out of luck.
ALA: Again with the ab etching. Try and get a clue bro. Except for that latest shot, all the photos of me were BEFORE I HAD THE AB ETCHING!!!!
Did you catch that or do I need to repeat it again?
If my methods worked then, why does having a little fat taken out in later in life change anything? I also mentioned that the difference was nominal so no, I can't just eat anything and not train and still have abs. It doesn't work that way. I also had a wisdom tooth pulled but didn't mention that in the ad. Does that make me a liar too?
Are you enjoying this Fonz?
Misceif: Now you're babbling. Your comments aren't even worth addressing.
All I'll say is, if you can't see the difference between having a board certified surgeon remove a little fat and shooting some silicone you bought off the internet into your muscles, then I can't help you.
I think there's a lesson to be learned here. I have people write to me everyday asking questions, and if they approach me like a gentleman (or a lady) I'll try and help them out the best I can. But when someone screams at you, and demands that you answer them NOW, and argues before even hearing the full explanation, well, that person just comes off like a petulant child and will be ignored. This happens throughout all areas of life. The sooner that's understand, the better off you'll be. But, to bring this topic full circle, some people get it. Some people don't.
jbolderman: Glad to hear you learned a few things.
Are we done now?
ALA: Again with the ab etching. Try and get a clue bro. Except for that latest shot, all the photos of me were BEFORE I HAD THE AB ETCHING!!!!
Did you catch that or do I need to repeat it again?
If my methods worked then, why does having a little fat taken out in later in life change anything? I also mentioned that the difference was nominal so no, I can't just eat anything and not train and still have abs. It doesn't work that way. I also had a wisdom tooth pulled but didn't mention that in the ad. Does that make me a liar too?
Are you enjoying this Fonz?
Misceif: Now you're babbling. Your comments aren't even worth addressing.
All I'll say is, if you can't see the difference between having a board certified surgeon remove a little fat and shooting some silicone you bought off the internet into your muscles, then I can't help you.
I think there's a lesson to be learned here. I have people write to me everyday asking questions, and if they approach me like a gentleman (or a lady) I'll try and help them out the best I can. But when someone screams at you, and demands that you answer them NOW, and argues before even hearing the full explanation, well, that person just comes off like a petulant child and will be ignored. This happens throughout all areas of life. The sooner that's understand, the better off you'll be. But, to bring this topic full circle, some people get it. Some people don't.
jbolderman: Glad to hear you learned a few things.
Are we done now?
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Nelson Montana said:
Just a few points and then I will bow out of this thread, since I don't want you to have a heart attack or an aneurysm.
1. If you read my posts carefully you'll notice I never called you a liar, I said you were being economical with the truth, which you are.
2. Having no fat cells in you abdomen does make a big difference! It is clear that your abs are better than they ever were in the latest shot. It is also clear that fat accumulation in this region is a lot harder now!
3. Believe it or not I actually agree with some of what you say as well!
4. Is a wisdom tooth a cosmetic improvement to your physique? No. Odd statement.
5. Did you ever reconsider your pizza eating philosophy to get that six pack going at any time?
6. Please try not to swear at people who make arguments against your philosophies/judgement, I doubt it inspires faith in you.
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Spartacus
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Nelson,is your book only available as an e-book,or can it be purchased as an "ordinary" paper-type book?..I like to have an actual book to read at bed and/or while on the toilet etc.
Nelson Montana said:
No there is no difference, you're just trying to rationalize your own lazy short cuts. You state, actually cry, "no matter how much weight I loose there is just this little itty bitty slab of fat on my abs that I can't make go bye-bye", so to you it's OK to have a Dr. go in surgically suck it out (nice short cut, you should of just added in some CARDIO). But there are guys, who no matter how hard they train, can not bring up their calves, or tris or whatever. There is a diffrence? No. I don't agree with synthol, but I actually sympathize with them more, because they may actually be genetically prohibited from having a 100% proportional physique. What you did was pure lazyness. ANYONE, through diet, training, and(hold your chest) cardio, can loose the fat in their midsection, ALL of it. You didn't diet or train hard enough, simple as that. Synthol is synthol. If someone had a Dr. order the raw material, and had the Doc inject it, then would it be OK? You make zero sense.
I'm getting back out of this because this is retarded. Look at Nelson's reponses, dude dodges every question that's thrown at him. I guess, "not worthy of a repsonse" means, "I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about." Nelson, you're clueless. No, you're worse than clueless; you and clueless go to the movies and clueless wears a t-shirt that says "I'm with stupid". Your blatent marketing and lack of ability to back up your statements with anything but, "because I said so" is laughable, but also annoying. Why don't you just go sit in the corner, and rub your two IQ points together and try to start a fire or something.
(Wow, it is more fun to just throw insults around instead of making any factual statements, if I keep this up, I'll have to change my handle to, "Mischief Montana")
-Mischief
Sure, why not?
ALA : Never swore at you. The wisdom tooth comment was a little thing called humor, which was obviously lost. And yes, I ate pizza every day before the surgery and managed a 9% bf.
Mischief: You are so full of shit.
People can lose every bit of fat, even in their 40's, as long as they do cardio??? Before I thought you were just annoying, I had no idea you were a full fledged idiot.
First of all, the surgery wasn't laziness -- it was an assigment that I agreed to.
Yeah, man. You got me. I know nothing. I had Dave Draper fooled. And Charles Poliquin fooled. And Dr.Eric Serrano, and Mauro DePasquale and Lou Schuler and Dan Duchaine and Dennis Weiss and Rick Collins fooled. But not you Mischief. You're way too clever for me.
ALA : Never swore at you. The wisdom tooth comment was a little thing called humor, which was obviously lost. And yes, I ate pizza every day before the surgery and managed a 9% bf.
Mischief: You are so full of shit.
People can lose every bit of fat, even in their 40's, as long as they do cardio??? Before I thought you were just annoying, I had no idea you were a full fledged idiot.
First of all, the surgery wasn't laziness -- it was an assigment that I agreed to.
Yeah, man. You got me. I know nothing. I had Dave Draper fooled. And Charles Poliquin fooled. And Dr.Eric Serrano, and Mauro DePasquale and Lou Schuler and Dan Duchaine and Dennis Weiss and Rick Collins fooled. But not you Mischief. You're way too clever for me.
OKIE
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Nelson,
You said you would answer questions that were written in a gentleman-like manner, but you never answered mine. I was not being skeptical of you when I asked this...I was just curious what your take on it was. I know you do not work for me either, but in a way you do work for the public if you want people to buy your book. Here is my post from before:
I have a couple of questions...When you say cardio is bad for building your physique, are you talking about excersises like sprints as well or just low resistance cardio activities. What about boxing? Also, you mention you do not like vet gear and say that low dose short cycles promote keeping gains better...Can you give an example of a standard low dose cycle that you would recommend to an intermediate bodybuilder? Thanks for the input.
You said you would answer questions that were written in a gentleman-like manner, but you never answered mine. I was not being skeptical of you when I asked this...I was just curious what your take on it was. I know you do not work for me either, but in a way you do work for the public if you want people to buy your book. Here is my post from before:
I have a couple of questions...When you say cardio is bad for building your physique, are you talking about excersises like sprints as well or just low resistance cardio activities. What about boxing? Also, you mention you do not like vet gear and say that low dose short cycles promote keeping gains better...Can you give an example of a standard low dose cycle that you would recommend to an intermediate bodybuilder? Thanks for the input.
Eating pizza everyday is not something to be proud of, it's pathetic. Also, not exactly the most trust worthy list. Poliquin who whored himself to Test.net (and Tribex or whatever), DePasquale who swears you're not taking in protein 33% of the day while you sleep, yet with his approved "night time?" protein ($100 / month, haha) this is a thing of the past. EXPERIENCE GAINS LIKE NEVER BEFORE!!! New NIGHTTIME protein!!! Yeah you're right Montana, your book belongs right in that category, my bad.
You didn't fool Duchaine. I've spoke and met with Dan several times, he'd have your ass for lunch. This is probably like your Dorian example (see earlier), quit pulling reputable people out of your ass and disgracing their memory.
Yes Montana, I am FAR too clever for you, thanks for reminding me as I now can put that on my Thanksgiving Day list of things I'm TRULY thankful for.
Thaibox
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So why don't you answer the 47 questions that were given to you respectably by "gentlemen" and stop dancing around them like a little kid that just got caught in a lie??????? I showed you undue respect in my previous posts. Read them again.Nelson Montana said:
If you don't address the questions, all you will accomplish is proving to everyone that you're completely full of shit. You answered how many of my questions??? ZERO!!!
I'm looking forward to seeing your well articulated, strongly supported arguments(stated maturely and professionally of course) to address the questions and criticisms given to you by so many members
Yeah, what I would do with his book involves the toilet also.
OKEE: Sorry bro, it got lost in the shuffle.
No, sprints aren't aerobic, they're anerobic. They're a form of high intensity stress that can't be maintained for much more than a minute -- which is why they're so effective. 20 minutes of interval sprints will raise HR, build muscle and improve cardio output much better than jogging for an hour.
In terms of low dose cycles, a fully detailed explanation would be impossible in this forum but basically, I've found 3 week cycles of one injectable and one oral to work best. One highly androgenic and one that's more anabolic. (Lots of reasons for this, but it gets complicated) If I could choose the perfect combo, it would be either Primo and D-bol or Sus and Var.
Thaibox: YOu don't have enough question marks in your post, therefore I can't understand you.
Mischief: I'm glad your delusion of superiority will provide a nice Thanksgiving. When you get a chance, can you post a picture of yourself?
No, sprints aren't aerobic, they're anerobic. They're a form of high intensity stress that can't be maintained for much more than a minute -- which is why they're so effective. 20 minutes of interval sprints will raise HR, build muscle and improve cardio output much better than jogging for an hour.
In terms of low dose cycles, a fully detailed explanation would be impossible in this forum but basically, I've found 3 week cycles of one injectable and one oral to work best. One highly androgenic and one that's more anabolic. (Lots of reasons for this, but it gets complicated) If I could choose the perfect combo, it would be either Primo and D-bol or Sus and Var.
Thaibox: YOu don't have enough question marks in your post, therefore I can't understand you.
Mischief: I'm glad your delusion of superiority will provide a nice Thanksgiving. When you get a chance, can you post a picture of yourself?
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