Nelson Montana-I'm calling you out!

[Nelson Montana]

There's an old saying:

"If you want to learn how to be a better bodybuilder, don't ask advice from the biggest guy in the gym...ask advice from the guy who has made the most progress."

In that regard I'd say I walk the walk. I was 145 pounds with 13% bf -- and not as a kid, but at the age of 37 and having trained for many years. I did a lot of things that most of you did -- the standard routines, diets, aerobics, all the supps. But I learned the truth. And that black and white picture is 100% drug free at age 40. Come back to me when you're 40 and let's see what you look like.

I never claimed to be a mass monster. I was a weenie guy with terrible genetics who transfored his body into more than I ever would have imagined, and I've done the same for hundreds, maybe thousands of others. If you're a genetic marvel, you don't need my advice. If you take a gram of gear a week, my gains won't impress you. But after 30 years of doing this I know what works best. How far you go with that information is up to your genetics.

As you can see, my genetics suck, yet at age 43 I came in 5th at the NPC Masters championships. (I was robbed, but thats a story for another time) And BTW, my "stack" for that show (the picture in the corner of the page) was 200mgs of Deca a week and 10mgs of D-bol a day for 3 weeks prior to the show.

Today at age 49, with a bum shoulder and a bad back, I'm a solid 190 at 9% bf. I eat pizza every day and do NO AEROBICS.

To those who can relate, I think you'll enjoy the book. But like I said, if gains come easily to you, you don't need it and I won't try to convince you otherwise.

 

[Fonz]

To further Dr JMW's point. Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dan Duchaine?

Yup. He was rail thin.

I would have loved to meet him. I only exchanged e-mails
with him on a couple of things. i.e. DNP when it first came out. How to get it, make it, synthesize it etc.. etc.. LOL
He was a funny guy.
Him and animal never, ever got along.

I still remember that one time he wanted to transport the pre-cursor to DNP(Legal) across states lines, set up a weight loss clinic, synthesize the DNP from the precursor and use it....LOL

Damn, I miss the old times of free-floating thought..

Fonz

 

[40butpumpin]

...Come back to me when you're 40 and let's see what you look like...

 

[Mischief]

I was 145 pounds with 13% bf -- and not as a kid, but at the age of 37 and having trained for many years. I did a lot of things that most of you did -- the standard routines, diets, aerobics, all the supps. But I learned the truth.

Doing the same things we do? And those results were because of the faulty methods and routines you were following? No. If that is the case, how come off all is who haven't been enlightened as to "the truth", or even knowing it choose to call it BS, are not in the same boat? We are all "genetic monsters"? I doubt that. At 145, 13%, you just had some serious personal issues, no method of training (especially for many years), that you slam or not, could keep someone at that laughable level. Huh, maybe I'm just a genetic freak. (and I love the cardiovascular benefits and general health I get from cardio, and I'm not so lazy as to try and find any possible explanation to avoid it). Let's poll the IFBB pro's, and NPC National competitors(genetic freaks) and see how many still do cardio, I'd be curious as to why that is?

 

[Spartacus]

Nelson,how do you feel about Rob Faigin's book "Natural Hormonal Enhancement"?

 

[Riker29]

To further Dr JMW's point. Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dan Duchaine?

The proof that Ulter is an intelligent and helpful person is that he bascially said exactly what I was going to say. LOL

This is ridiculous ... "I am calling you out", man this board comes close to sounding like the hallways of a high school every day.

 

[Nelson Montana]

4everhung: NHE is a well researched book with some good info, but I disagree with some of it. Personally, I feel Faigin over-emphasizes the role of GH. He also villifies carbs more than I would. There's also suprisingly little info on nutrition and supplementation for increasing testosterone beyond the importance of fat. He brings up the importance of sunlight which is something that is rarely addressed. Rob is a young guy with good genetics and his plan is a bit too "one size fits all" for me but I'd say the book is worth having since it's another perspective and an intelligent one.

Mischief: I'll try to address the few coherent sentences I could decipher from your post.

First of all, my choice not to do cardio has nothing to do with laziness, or "personal issues." (An incredible conclusion since you don't know anything about me). I did cardio for years, 4X's a week for 20 minutes
following all my workouts except for legs. I stopped because IT DOESN'T WORK! The fact that I maintained the same bf, same pulse rate , lowered BP, plus put on more muscle proves it.

Concerning IFBB pros: What does that have to do with anything? My information isn't designed for genetic freaks on 10.000mgs of sauce a week. FYI, a lot of pros are morons who just have the genetics for muscle growth and good receptor acceptance. And BTW, more and more are getting wise to the futility of cardio.

You love the cardiovascular benefits of aerobics? So did Jim Fixx. He even wrote a book about it. He dropped dead at age 37. No offense bro, but you're so clueless, you don't even know how clueless you are.

 

[Ulter]

"You love the cardiovascular benefits of aerobics? So did Jim Fixx. He even wrote a book about it. He dropped dead at age 37."

No he died at 52. He would have died much earlier had he not used cardio to drop from 220 to 160. He died from clogged arteries however it was due to a congenital heart condition that surely would have killed him long before 52 had he not done the cardio.

 

[Mischief]

Mischief:
No offense bro, but you're so clueless, you don't even know how clueless you are.

Mmmm, Ok. Hey Nelson, why don't you run that theory by us again about how animals have "animal androgen receptors", and humans have, "human androgen receptors", therefore vet steroids WILL NOT WORK ON HUMANS. You're the clueless one bro. And your lame explanation you try to give now, is BS, I have access the exact statements you made, you can't even talk your way around it.

And I happen to know a few pros, they don't take as much gear as you think. Quit making excuses for yourself. Anyone who would buy a book from this guy....well, I hope you at least read it as fiction.

Oh yeah, and from someone claiming to be smart enough to call me clueless, I could have told you when I was 15 and started training that doing your cardio right after your workouts is a bonehead, counter-productive move. Ideally, cardio should be as close to 12 hours away as possible. And it's benefits are so obvious, so simple, and so documented, that even after your animal theories above, I think YOU are even more clueless than I had previously thought.

 

[genarr3]

I've read nothing but insightfull posts from him, I don't need to see his picture to know he knows his shit.