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Nelson Montana-I'm calling you out!
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Bigsatan13
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OK Nelson, you showed me you practice what you preach. Thanks.
To everyone else with the "those who can't do teach" attitude that is bullshit. The greatest teachers and leaders all did so by example. Don't tell me you can build big arms in 20 minutes a week and walk around with toothpicks. He is a reflection of the product that he is marketing. That I'll respect, not the guy who claims one thing and does another.
Typo with the Jim FIxx age. He had a heart attack in his 30's. But I just double checked and some sources say he died at 47, others say 52, but the point is the same. Yes, he had a congenital condition. If aerobic activity is so great for your heart, why didn't it prolong his life? That's still young.
Mischief: I figured you'd say I was doing aerobics all wrong. I'm sure if I said I did them on off days you'd claim that was boneheaded because the basal metabolic rate wasn't raised sufficiently or something or other. The point remains, for hardgainers, they're not only an ineffective form of exercise, but they cause a host of problems as well. Everyone who follows my advice on this reports the same results -- no loss of cardiovascular ability, and more muscle growth. The only people who knock it are those who refuse to accept it.
Concerning the vet drug thing. This is so old and I've been through it a dozen times but I'll explain it once more. I am opposed to the use of vet steroids. Many contain compounds besides steroids. There is no testing for vet drug use in humans. People experience all sorts of adverse reactions from vet gear -- anxiety, flu-like symptoms, insomnia, hives, etc. Back when I wrote that article I contacted a veterinarian on the use of vet roids and he said they would not work as well in humans due to the receptor acceptance. That's wrong of course but that's what I printed. This was 6 years ago. Who wasn't wrong about some stuff back then? What were you doing in 1997?
Ironically, what few of the detractors fail to realize is that many drugs are species specific. (i.e. aspirin is poisonous to cats.) The bottom line is, I stand by the belief that vet gear is a bad idea and I still would not use it or recommend it.
You know a few pros? Wow, am I impressed!
I don't claim to be a great scientist (unlike some of the charlatans in this industry) but I have something to offer. I'm not selling anything other than the knowledge I've amassed over many years in this business that can help, and has helped a lot of people. But maybe you already know all the answers and don't need to learn anything else. But don't knock something when you don't know anything about it.
Mischief: I figured you'd say I was doing aerobics all wrong. I'm sure if I said I did them on off days you'd claim that was boneheaded because the basal metabolic rate wasn't raised sufficiently or something or other. The point remains, for hardgainers, they're not only an ineffective form of exercise, but they cause a host of problems as well. Everyone who follows my advice on this reports the same results -- no loss of cardiovascular ability, and more muscle growth. The only people who knock it are those who refuse to accept it.
Concerning the vet drug thing. This is so old and I've been through it a dozen times but I'll explain it once more. I am opposed to the use of vet steroids. Many contain compounds besides steroids. There is no testing for vet drug use in humans. People experience all sorts of adverse reactions from vet gear -- anxiety, flu-like symptoms, insomnia, hives, etc. Back when I wrote that article I contacted a veterinarian on the use of vet roids and he said they would not work as well in humans due to the receptor acceptance. That's wrong of course but that's what I printed. This was 6 years ago. Who wasn't wrong about some stuff back then? What were you doing in 1997?
Ironically, what few of the detractors fail to realize is that many drugs are species specific. (i.e. aspirin is poisonous to cats.) The bottom line is, I stand by the belief that vet gear is a bad idea and I still would not use it or recommend it.
You know a few pros? Wow, am I impressed!
I don't claim to be a great scientist (unlike some of the charlatans in this industry) but I have something to offer. I'm not selling anything other than the knowledge I've amassed over many years in this business that can help, and has helped a lot of people. But maybe you already know all the answers and don't need to learn anything else. But don't knock something when you don't know anything about it.
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Frackal
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Fair enough, though your old comments do make me wonder as well, its good to have your knowledge and opinons on the board Nelson.
drug_against_war
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Dexter Jackson says he does no cardio, so obviously not every pro does it, and you can still be a Mr. O competitor without it.
" why didn't it prolong his life? That's still young. "
Like I said the cardio DID prolong his life. His condition would have killed him much earlier without it.
If you have evidence that cardio does not prolong one's life you should alert the media. The entire medical community has it wrong.
Like I said the cardio DID prolong his life. His condition would have killed him much earlier without it.
If you have evidence that cardio does not prolong one's life you should alert the media. The entire medical community has it wrong.
Lift Chief
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ulter said:
Nelson, i think you have a lot of interesting theories... and it's always good to have different opinions on this board.
I've gotta agree with this though. It's common knowledge that doing cardio increases your cardiovascular health... how could all doctors and nutritionists have it wrong?
utter:There is no evidence that cardio will prolong life. There's no way of knowing. The medical community acknowledges EXERCISE as good for health but never claim that aerobics will lengthen life and other forms of exercise won't.
Lifts Iron: I went through a period where I did more than the standard 20 minutes -- up to 6 miles, but I got so flat I had to stop. Then I did what I thought I was supposed to do because everyone said so. Even though I no longer do aerobics, I check myself now and then and can still run a 10-12 minute mile -- not bad for 49 and the fact that even when I did do aerobics, I never ran much faster than that. When I run now (about 4X's a year) I barely break a sweat. The toughest part about it is it's so fucking boring!
Chief: This is the common misunderstading about aerobics. For one thing, doctors have absolutely NO TRAINING in exercise physiology. Naturally, if someone sits around eating ice cream and watching Jerry Springer, a good walk or jog will do him good. It's better than nothing. And he'll lose weight. But that doesn't mean aerobics are the best form of exercise for a trained athlete to lose fat, and bodybuilders are trained athletes and they do aerobics to lose fat.
I should also say that I believe in an active lifestyle. I walk, I ride a bike (a real one) I recommend playing sports or dancing or even doing some old fashioned manual labor -- but these aren't things you have to go to the gym to do. It's just life stuff.
Besides, cardio inceases oxidation, strains the kness, ankles, shins and lower back.
Even Kennith Cooper admits this.
AEROBICS SUCK.
Lifts Iron: I went through a period where I did more than the standard 20 minutes -- up to 6 miles, but I got so flat I had to stop. Then I did what I thought I was supposed to do because everyone said so. Even though I no longer do aerobics, I check myself now and then and can still run a 10-12 minute mile -- not bad for 49 and the fact that even when I did do aerobics, I never ran much faster than that. When I run now (about 4X's a year) I barely break a sweat. The toughest part about it is it's so fucking boring!
Chief: This is the common misunderstading about aerobics. For one thing, doctors have absolutely NO TRAINING in exercise physiology. Naturally, if someone sits around eating ice cream and watching Jerry Springer, a good walk or jog will do him good. It's better than nothing. And he'll lose weight. But that doesn't mean aerobics are the best form of exercise for a trained athlete to lose fat, and bodybuilders are trained athletes and they do aerobics to lose fat.
I should also say that I believe in an active lifestyle. I walk, I ride a bike (a real one) I recommend playing sports or dancing or even doing some old fashioned manual labor -- but these aren't things you have to go to the gym to do. It's just life stuff.
Besides, cardio inceases oxidation, strains the kness, ankles, shins and lower back.
Even Kennith Cooper admits this.
AEROBICS SUCK.
Lift Chief
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Cardio does friggen suck- im still not sure but i hope you're right Nelson!
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