Nelson M - background?

[jonny jacked]

Re: Re: Nelson M - background?

This has been one of the worst days of my life and I posted about it earlier today but to stay on topic, Nelson's ideas and theories and the way in which they are delivered sparks controversy, flames and in some cases excellent well-informed discussions.

It's obvious that Nelson and Fonz and many of the Mods here don't get along and or agree with Nelson on his theories. The central fact that Nelson never posts studies or scientific references causes many to question his theories.

What I can say is that both Nelson and Fonz have helped me tremendously in certain areas.

Nelson – in expanding my knowledge base in PCT supps that I actually bought and seem to work for their intended purpose.

juice, I thought when you and Nelson were always going through that shit about pct that you left it at you were still going to take clomid even though you had that really bad crash a few months back. just wondering becuase i myself could not handle clomid - made me limp as an 90 year old man, and emotional, so i tried nelsons methods and they worked great (had blood work done to back it up). so are you recovering better with your new methods? and what exactly do you take pc?

Fonz - For his broad scientific background, cycling and stacking techniques. Fonz also put together a lipid profile cocktail that consists of several different supplements, all of which are designed to raise HDL and lower LDL levels. My blood tests showed that his cocktail works.

Nelson and I used to go at it all the time regardless of what the topic was and we would get into long drawn flame fests where I would post studies that refuted his claims. Each individual is different. Clomid is proven to speed up hpta recovery but for me the side effects of clomid aren't worth it so I'm willing to experiment with new methods such as Nolva, HCG, HGH, Proviron and Unleashed and Nelson's Post-cycle formula.

 

[alanchiras]

As someone who has faced a little flaming of my own (because I coundn't lighten up at some Gay jokes) I wish Fonz and Nelson just went to a bar and had a couple of beers and agreed to disagree. Thanks!

 

[Juice Authority]

juice, I thought when you and Nelson were always going through that shit about pct that you left it at you were still going to take clomid even though you had that really bad crash a few months back. just wondering becuase i myself could not handle clomid - made me limp as an 90 year old man, and emotional, so i tried nelsons methods and they worked great (had blood work done to back it up). so are you recovering better with your new methods? and what exactly do you take pc?

Do I have blood work to back what up? Yes, I do - LOL. - The Fonz part about my cholesterol levels.

I take Nelson's PCT formula during my cycle with Unleashed to free up test and help with the libido, which they seem to do. There is nothing about the ingredients of PCT that would interfere with gains while on, which I am. PCT can be used before, during and after your cycle. In many ways it's similar to Nolva and arimidex that people use to keep estrogen levels down during their cycle. I'm not off yet, not for a 6 more weeks.

For Cholesterol:

Guggulsterones: 180mg/day
Policosanol: 40mg/day - 4 tabs at dinner time
Green Tea(45% ECGCG): 1g/day
Tocotreniols: 1g/day(A way more potent form of Vitamin E)
Garlic(Kyolic): 1g/day
(Novaldex: 20mg/day)

 

[needsize]

This is funny actually, most of what I see on elite now is just people, with very little anabolic experience of their own, just cut and pasting the same old tired shit that others have posted many times before. Mostly because they dont have enough experience of their own to draw on to answer a question. But as soon as someone comes on here that has original ideas(not just nelson) and forces people to think and not give the same old tired answers, they get pissed and revert to name calling and insults like pissed off 7 year olds. I imagine these guys have a physique to match their vocabulary...small and pathetic

 

[Juice Authority]

This is funny actually, most of what I see on elite now is just people, with very little anabolic experience of their own, just cut and pasting the same old tired shit that others have posted many times before. Mostly because they dont have enough experience of their own to draw on to answer a question. But as soon as someone comes on here that has original ideas(not just nelson) and forces people to think and not give the same old tired answers, they get pissed and revert to name calling and insults like pissed off 7 year olds. I imagine these guys have a physique to match their vocabulary...small and pathetic

The sad thing is I've been cycling years longer than you and my physique is no where near yours...

 

[stonecold54]

juice, I thought when you and Nelson were always going through that shit about pct that you left it at you were still going to take clomid even though you had that really bad crash a few months back. just wondering becuase i myself could not handle clomid - made me limp as an 90 year old man, and emotional, so i tried nelsons methods and they worked great (had blood work done to back it up). so are you recovering better with your new methods? and what exactly do you take pc?

Do I have blood work to back what up? Yes, I do - LOL. - The Fonz part about my cholesterol levels.

I take Nelson's PCT formula during my cycle with Unleashed to free up test and help with the libido, which they seem to do. There is nothing about the ingredients of PCT that would interfere with gains while on, which I am. PCT can be used before, during and after your cycle. In many ways it's similar to Nolva and arimidex that people use to keep estrogen levels down during their cycle. I'm not off yet, not for a 6 more weeks.

For Cholesterol:

Guggulsterones: 180mg/day
Policosanol: 40mg/day - 4 tabs at dinner time
Green Tea(45% ECGCG): 1g/day
Tocotreniols: 1g/day(A way more potent form of Vitamin E)
Garlic(Kyolic): 1g/day
(Novaldex: 20mg/day)

If I can ask JA what kind of numbers did your cholesterol come back with?

 

[Juice Authority]

If I can ask JA what kind of numbers did your cholesterol come back with?

Before -

HDL - 9
LDL - 263

After -

HDL - 21
LDL - 198


It still needs improvement but I've only beeen using Fonz's cocktail for 1 month and I'm still on a cycle which as you know raises LDL and lowers HDL cholesterol levels.

 

[stonecold54]

Before -

HDL - 9
LDL - 263

After -

HDL - 21
LDL - 198


It still needs improvement but I've only beeen using Fonz's cocktail for 1 month and I'm still on a cycle which as you know raises LDL and lowers HDL cholesterol levels.

sweet thanks