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nimbus

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to make a long story short, i'm pretty sure my best friend at school stole a bunch of money from our friends and the frat and bought a shitload of cocaine to sell. I was the last of us to see him..this was two weeks ago, and he told me he was going to start selling yay. He flunked out of school and owes a lot of people money; he also set his phone to "not accepting calls" mode and nobody has heard from him since - not even his on/off gf. As much of a piece of shit as this guy is we were really close and I am honestly worried for his safety.

I don't want to file a missing person report or anything, but tomorrow i was going to drive an hour and a half to his parents' house and ask if they have heard from him. Is this a bad idea? I don't know his family at all, and his parents' number is unlisted. If he is fine and just being a p.o.s. scumbag, I am willing to just drive home at least knowing he is ok. If his parents haven't heard from him either, at least they will now know he is missing and can do as they wish.
 
I think it's a bad idea. If he's already in trouble, your intervention will get him in worse shit. He will learn from his mistakes. People make mistakes. They learn. That's what makes a man, a better man.
 
lv a message saying that you are driving to his parents house if he does not return the call.


and while you're visiting him, pick me up some coke
 
the_alcatraz said:
I think it's a bad idea. If he's already in trouble, your intervention will get him in worse shit. He will learn from his mistakes. People make mistakes. They learn. That's what makes a man, a better man.
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i feel the same way as you about intervening. do you think simply asking if he is ok is too much intervention?
 
I'd go to his parents house too. If he's your friend and you are concerned, getting him help is better than letting him get into a bunch of shit.

His parents need to know. Last thing they want is a shock when the police go to their house saying he got shot by a crackhead for drugs.
 
His parents might freak out and start calling cops/hospitals/hotels and get him into more trouble...he doesn't need the spotlight right now...

nimbus said:
i feel the same way as you about intervening. do you think simply asking if he is ok is too much intervention?
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nimbus said:
to make a long story short, i'm pretty sure my best friend at school stole a bunch of money from our friends and the frat and bought a shitload of cocaine to sell. I was the last of us to see him..this was two weeks ago, and he told me he was going to start selling yay. He flunked out of school and owes a lot of people money; he also set his phone to "not accepting calls" mode and nobody has heard from him since - not even his on/off gf. As much of a piece of shit as this guy is we were really close and I am honestly worried for his safety.

I don't want to file a missing person report or anything, but tomorrow i was going to drive an hour and a half to his parents' house and ask if they have heard from him. Is this a bad idea? I don't know his family at all, and his parents' number is unlisted. If he is fine and just being a p.o.s. scumbag, I am willing to just drive home at least knowing he is ok. If his parents haven't heard from him either, at least they will now know he is missing and can do as they wish.
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ask layinback for advice
when he was a teenager he was high up in the cartel
he'll tell you about it
he did it on a double date I had with him
I'm thinking to myself
Jesus fucking Christ shut your mouth
 
Smurfy said:
lv a message saying that you are driving to his parents house if he does not return the call.


and while you're visiting him, pick me up some coke
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i would but he is "not accepting calls" and you don't even get the option of vmail. i have texted him though, all i said was 'hey are you ok?' and then later 'let me know if you need to talk'
 
be careful in the hood
recently I was there and bro asks me
"why aren't you scared?"
me
"because I'm not"
 
Bro, looks like I gotta hide the booze again :worried:

Spartacus said:
ask layinback for advice
when he was a teenager he was high up in the cartel
he'll tell you about it
he did it on a double date I had with him
I'm thinking to myself
Jesus fucking Christ shut your mouth
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I hate when people say do what you feel is right or follow your heart. If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't have asked for fuckin advice now would I?
 
the_alcatraz said:
Bro, looks like I gotta hide the booze again :worried:
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he's a tony montana wannabe
am I wrong?

calling me hollow and shit in PMs and k messages because I wont apologize to him
"I got no soul" etc.
 
Spartacus said:
how much money?
he's probably at the beach
we need more details
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i don't know the sum of all his debts, but i would guess several thousand. The cash that i know he would have had on hand, that he bounced with, was 4,000. That is the minimum amount, i don't know what else he already had.
 
Beachboy6294 said:
I would drive to his house bro! He sounds like he is on a path of destruction!
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Im with Beach, he has already in trouble , let his parents file the report. An intervention should be done.....
 
you're both good bros...I respect you both very much and I would meet you both IRL in a heartbeat

Spartacus said:
he's a tony montana wannabe
am I wrong?

calling me hollow and shit in PMs and k messages because I wont apologize to him
"I got no soul" etc.
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did he already have clientel for the yay? or was he just a heavier partier? He either could have set up shop and got a new phone or went on a long binder. I have a friend who would go on 2-3 week binders on crack. He had a well off family and sopport and was able to bounce back several times. He was just like a cat always landing on his feet(at the expense of his family).
 
Peter_North said:
did he already have clientel for the yay? or was he just a heavier partier? He either could have set up shop and got a new phone or went on a long binder. I have a friend who would go on 2-3 week binders on crack. He had a well off family and sopport and was able to bounce back several times. He was just like a cat always landing on his feet(at the expense of his family).
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he went on a bender
that's why I ask about the cash
to see how bad it is
you know frat house and all
 
Peter_North said:
did he already have clientel for the yay? or was he just a heavier partier? He either could have set up shop and got a new phone or went on a long binder. I have a friend who would go on 2-3 week binders on crack. He had a well off family and sopport and was able to bounce back several times. He was just like a cat always landing on his feet(at the expense of his family).
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he really isn't much of a coke head, he only does it maybe once a month. he said he already had some clientele lined up, but that was supposed to be local
 
did i meet this dude?

That's fucked up man. i really don't know what to tell you.it's really a tough call. if you care, then you can drive there.

id kinda let things play themselves out for the most part..if he hasnt even tried to call you, then id say fuck it. but i dont know because its hard to judge the personal relationship from far away
 
nimbus said:
ya hold up ill text you who
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what the fuck?

i can't believe that. last person that seems like he'd do that

yeah man, i'd drive to his parents house.

how the fuck did he get so much money tho? was he the treasurer of the frat?
 
Spartacus said:
be careful in the hood
recently I was there and bro asks me
"why aren't you scared?"
me
"because I'm not"
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I always said if you looked scared or like you don't belong
you're fvcked
 
i wonder if he a.) just planned on dipping permanently. take the cash and run. change his number etc

or b.) maybe looked to use it and flip some weight, pay everyone back and use some crazy excuse.

BTW if he has t-mobile, that message comes up when you cancel your phone or stop paying your bill. its not really an "option".
 
calveless wonder said:
or b.) maybe looked to use it and flip some weight, pay everyone back and use some crazy excuse.
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i'm almost positive it's this..

i just don't get why he wouldn't drop me a line and say he is ok. that is why i am worried...honestly i don't think he is smart enough to move say a QP on his own and stay safe.
 
nimbus said:
i'm almost positive it's this..

i just don't get why he wouldn't drop me a line and say he is ok. that is why i am worried...honestly i don't think he is smart enough to move say a QP on his own and stay safe.
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you need to have a good distribution network to move that quickly.
 
calveless wonder said:
yep.

i bet he's stuck with all this coke and has no idea how to move it.

he may have even went on a binge himself
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hmm so im thinking i should hold off going to his parents..can you think of why he would avoid EVERYONE, even his girl?
 
nimbus said:
hmm so im thinking i should hold off going to his parents..can you think of why he would avoid EVERYONE, even his girl?
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he probably changed his phone number, is telling his parents everything is ok etc and cut off contact with everyone from davis. like i said, that message (if he has tmobile) comes up when you change your number or stop paying your bill

they have no idea. he figured nobody would have had a way to contact them.
 
nimbus said:
tomorrow i was going to drive an hour and a half to his parents' house and ask if they have heard from him. Is this a bad idea? I don't know his family at all, and his parents' number is unlisted.
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Before I made that drive I would do a little research (college admin dept, frat records, etc) to find his parent's unlisted phone number. Then I would simply call them, explain the situation, give them my contact info and be done with it.
 
Still think you should not get involved and get him into more trouble.
Fuck, he might be even being watched by the cops as we speak.
 
nimbus said:
hmm so im thinking i should hold off going to his parents..can you think of why he would avoid EVERYONE, even his girl?
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why? Because he doesn't want any trace of himself. he's probably paranoid as fuck and would expect someone to leak it and then he's really fucked.

if his parents havent heard from him, they've already probably filed a missing person's report. but i highly doubt that's the case.

he just wants to stay far away from Davis prolly

i really doubt anyone at the school would harm him seriously. only outside shot is if he was buying/dealing with some real shady, dangerous people etc. my gut tells me that is not the case
 
calveless wonder said:
i really doubt anyone at the school would harm him seriously. only outside shot is if he was buying/dealing with some real shady, dangerous people etc. my gut tells me that is not the case
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i've never been to his hometown but i hear it's pretty shitty
 
It's definitely worth checking into. If you absolutely can't get his parent's digits from the school or the frat, drive on out and see if his folks have seen him.
 
Some people don't want to be helped.

That being said, if something did happen and you thought maybe there was some way you could have helped, you'll kick yourself for it for the rest of your life.
 
I think I would talk to his parents and just say you hadn't heard from him. If they say that they have talked to him, then no alarms will be raised. If he hasn't, they will check on him.
 
the_alcatraz said:
I think it's a bad idea. If he's already in trouble, your intervention will get him in worse shit. He will learn from his mistakes. People make mistakes. They learn. That's what makes a man, a better man.
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Wrong attitude.

When people's lives may be at stake, that's when you have to do the tough thing and involve other people. His parents have a right to know that something may be going on with him.

I have been in this kind of spot and let me tell you, it was hard. I told her after things settled down again, "I don't care if you hate me the rest of your life. At least you're alive to hate me." She didn't end up hating me, but we did drift after that...but I have no regrets. None. What I would have regreted was staying out of things and taking an, "I'm not going to get involved" attitude and having something really terrible happen to her. If you love your friends you make the hard choice that means you might lose the friendship.
 
If you're sincerly worried... and it seems like you are. I would contact his parents someway.

But Think about it....

If hes not at his place and hes not at his parents where is he? Assuming he only has the 4grand. If hes trying to flip some yay wont he need all of it for that?

You don't know if something went wrong with the pickup the drop off or anywhere in between. For all you know he could be sitting in a jail cell or laying in a ditch.

Its not like were talkin bout your boy runnin off to SF to chill and blow off steam and get away from everyone. Were talking about him going off to try and slang. When drugs and slanging are added to the equation your talking about some serious risk.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Before I made that drive I would do a little research (college admin dept, frat records, etc) to find his parent's unlisted phone number. Then I would simply call them, explain the situation, give them my contact info and be done with it.
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With gas being what it is...this is what I would do!!!!!!1
 
Wouldn't you be scared to make things worse though?

What if I was trying to help him, and I ended up causing him to spend the rest of his life in jail?

The thought of intervention and affecting his life to that extent creeps me out :worried:

nefertiti said:
Wrong attitude.

When people's lives may be at stake, that's when you have to do the tough thing and involve other people. His parents have a right to know that something may be going on with him.

I have been in this kind of spot and let me tell you, it was hard. I told her after things settled down again, "I don't care if you hate me the rest of your life. At least you're alive to hate me." She didn't end up hating me, but we did drift after that...but I have no regrets. None. What I would have regreted was staying out of things and taking an, "I'm not going to get involved" attitude and having something really terrible happen to her. If you love your friends you make the hard choice that means you might lose the friendship.
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nimbus said:
to make a long story short, i'm pretty sure my best friend at school stole a bunch of money from our friends and the frat and bought a shitload of cocaine to sell. I was the last of us to see him..this was two weeks ago, and he told me he was going to start selling yay. He flunked out of school and owes a lot of people money; he also set his phone to "not accepting calls" mode and nobody has heard from him since - not even his on/off gf. As much of a piece of shit as this guy is we were really close and I am honestly worried for his safety.

I don't want to file a missing person report or anything, but tomorrow i was going to drive an hour and a half to his parents' house and ask if they have heard from him. Is this a bad idea? I don't know his family at all, and his parents' number is unlisted. If he is fine and just being a p.o.s. scumbag, I am willing to just drive home at least knowing he is ok. If his parents haven't heard from him either, at least they will now know he is missing and can do as they wish.
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you know what doesnt make sense..

if your a drug dealer your not gonna turn your phone off because u wont be making to much sales now a days.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Wouldn't you be scared to make things worse though?

What if I was trying to help him, and I ended up causing him to spend the rest of his life in jail?

The thought of intervention and affecting his life to that extent creeps me out :worried:
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That's why I said it was a hard choice.
 
so if anyone was wondering.. making the drive was the right thing to do in this case; he pretty much fucked his life up for the short term and didn't know how to reach out to anyone
 
nimbus said:
so if anyone was wondering.. making the drive was the right thing to do in this case; he pretty much fucked his life up for the short term and didn't know how to reach out to anyone
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shit what happened? was he hurt? in trouble with the law?
 
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