need help on first cycle...noob

[bryceman41]

the last 2 response...thank you.

the UK guy on the other hand, didnt help. thanks for your input. i think that all summed up my question ALOT better than the previous person.
ill keep that in mind.

 

[bryceman41]

First of all, from one vet to another, thanks for your service time. Respect.

I think that the point everyone is trying to get across is one for your own benefit. It's not a bad thing to be 21, or have less experience in the gym than some of us older dudes who've been lifting for many years. I for one wish I was 21 again.

The fact is, you're below your genetic limitations, eat lots and train hard to get a solid "base" before cranking it up. Don't use juice to give you synthetic gains that you'll lose 85% of when your off because in the long run you're wasting your time and in the case of orals, your health.

Train dirty, eat clean, make solid gains and consider a test only cycle to start when you get your shoulder right and strong. Also toss the orals in the trash, pinning is the only way to go man.

actually im 22..i just forgot my birthday passed.. weird. anyways, problem is is my metabolism is so fast and i eat as many good meals as i can..it just wont go up..my strength and PR went up when iwas really training for this marathon after i was discharged and during deployment in 2010. But my shoulder, keeps me from doing a lot of heavy lifts. my lower body is in great health/shape though. I can double bench my body and squat..which imo is pretty good for how small i am and a phuckd up shoulder...ill just start eating more and listen to you vets adivce.

much appreciated.

 

[bryceman41]

Bud I just want to jump in here and tell you with that attitude no one will help you it doesn't matter who is in the wrong here we can't take the kind of arguing here.

You asked for help he gave you his opinion, if you don't like it don't respond. At 150lbs is small the reason why everyone is saying to wait is when you jump on gear your strength will sky rocket and your tendons and joints won't keep up, you will more than likely hurt yourself and cause permanent damage, especially coming out of a shoulder injury. Him telling you a weight is more of a guideline If you will, you need to get a base aka more muscle on your frame it doesn't have to be 190lbs but some more weight will be good.

If you just got done with surgery and your 150 pounds because of the surgery and you use to walk around 170 or up then there is no reason to use aas, the reason is muscle memory will help you out there. You will be surprised how fast you regain your size. So essentially you will waste gear and mess up your natural hormones to get back to where you were, you get what I'm saying?

I am trying to be respectful to you and better explain certain things hope you don't take it the wrong way or get discouraged. Just kick ass in the gym and you will get where you need to be shortly.

i understand. thanks. my shoulder, really is what fks up my upper body sometimes. i gotta take days off...i never got surgery, so i just gotta deal w/ it. when i was on winny, i did notice some joint problems in my knee when running and finally went away months after the cycle.

so what your saying is...bulkup/ pack on muscle, then if i feel like it do aas? As far as the commercial like test boosters and what not..is that a waste at my age or
what would you do. if you were in my shoes?

 

[NegroPops]

you are young, and still have room to grow.. a lot.. naturally. That is what everyone is saying.

If I were you, I would look into SARMS.. they will help you gradually put on more size, as well as aid in the recovery of your shoulder.

 

[Idobehigh]

i understand. thanks. my shoulder, really is what fks up my upper body sometimes. i gotta take days off...i never got surgery, so i just gotta deal w/ it. when i was on winny, i did notice some joint problems in my knee when running and finally went away months after the cycle.

so what your saying is...bulkup/ pack on muscle, then if i feel like it do aas? As far as the commercial like test boosters and what not..is that a waste at my age or
what would you do. if you were in my shoes?

Honestly in your position I wouldn't buy anything but food and more food lol you want to eat all day 6-7 meals a day

Sarms can be good I suppose in your spot however if money is limited I would not worry about anything but food if you can afford it and a 50-100$ a week grocery bill then yes u can use sarms if not stick with food

 

[bryceman41]

you are young, and still have room to grow.. a lot.. naturally. That is what everyone is saying.

If I were you, I would look into SARMS.. they will help you gradually put on more size, as well as aid in the recovery of your shoulder.

okay eat alot, i got it.

i do have $..so basically its a "practice" run before aas?
i dont really wanna be a guinea pig and grow an extra toe...
what is it?

 

[Idobehigh]

Plenty of people have ran sarms they are safe, I said once before I don't think you should run sarms but if you are going to then you need to research it a lot more.

 

[NegroPops]

Selective Androgen Receptor Module (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org

The SARMS triple stack protocol - Evolutionary.org

Just remember.. steroids are not a short cut, your diet and training will determine everything.

I lied..

steroids are a short cut.. but your diet and training are more important than the drugs you run.

 

[bryceman41]

Have you personally tried this, SARMS?

 

[NegroPops]

yes I have.

They are great for increasing your LBM, while helping you get or stay lean. And as long as you keep the dosages realistic, and the period of time you run them.. they are virtually side effect free.