need help on first cycle...noob

[bryceman41]

my stats:
5'9, 21 years old
145-150lbs 8-12%BF

i have taken underground winstrol before and saw a decent amount of strength improvement. That was over a year ago though.

Now i am trying to regain some weight as i took some rest due to an injury from hs that bothers me to this day (dislocated shoulder).

I need help/advice if at my age should i even be doing a stack? or just take a test booster/some plasma jet i still have.

I was thinking of getting oral anadrol from geneza pharm. and adding Anavar (Oxandrolone) from the same pharm. oral as well.

what do you think?
any advice is appreciated. thanks.
this is for sports performance btw.

 

[ravsta72]

What's your diet like? If its mass you are after then you need to see what adjustments you can make to your diet. Winstrol hardens your muscles and may add minor mass but nothing spectacular in my opinion and experience.

 

[bonacris]

At 150lbs you shouldnt even be thinking about steroids.. save your money and spend it on steak and oatmeal

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[stevesmi]

you need a base to run steroids. hence why you are sitting there with a dislocated shoulder after running winny with zero base.

 

[bryceman41]

What's your diet like? If its mass you are after then you need to see what adjustments you can make to your diet. Winstrol hardens your muscles and may add minor mass but nothing spectacular in my opinion and experience.

my diet is kinda up and down...im working on it and trying to get in real meals with meats(usually chicken) and brown rice. fruits, i eat alot and i eat a lot of fiber and peanut butter. but i need to start eating larger meals instead of nitpicking... foods. and actually make a meal.

 

[bryceman41]

you need a base to run steroids. hence why you are sitting there with a dislocated shoulder after running winny with zero base.

what do you mean a base?

i dislocated my shoulder in 06' during a football game. but lifting weights has definitely improved it and added more muscle. i was suppose 2 get surgery but never did.

the winny, i think gave me more strength and toned up/ more vascular. i did a half marathon in 2hrs 15mins.
the tough mudder thingy...

i think i should probably just start off eating better and then once my weight gets to a decent size/strength...maybe try a cycle?

what do you think?
also i have a few supplements that use to be on the market but are now banned..they havent expired..(17 hydroxy-mesterone) and plasma jet...

 

[Redfield11]

You're too small, young and inexperienced in the gym to start steroids. Give it 4 years, start dieting properly, training properly and when you're up to 190lbs+ come back and think about starting a cycle. Sorry to be blunt but I've seen enough of young, skinny guys strutting around the gym like they own the place because they're on steroids to last me a lifetime. They ALWAYS get injured and lose their gains as quickly as they achieved them.

 

[bryceman41]

You're too small, young and inexperienced in the gym to start steroids. Give it 4 years, start dieting properly, training properly and when you're up to 190lbs+ come back and think about starting a cycle. Sorry to be blunt but I've seen enough of young, skinny guys strutting around the gym like they own the place because they're on steroids to last me a lifetime. They ALWAYS get injured and lose their gains as quickly as they achieved them.

lol im inexperienced, young? your fuckin 25 BRO? because you take steroids, do you have a college degree on physiology/kinesiology? your generalizing me, just as you do with everyone in your gym or whatever you believe. look @ your about me, what do you need PED for? you're 6'5 200+ rugby player, not natural. Also, your from the UK, enough said.(typical, hotheaded, arrogant, fuck america attitude) seen plenty of British troops in astan, to realize the dbags from the openminded. you fit the 1st category.
Sorry to be blunt pal..im not as dumb as you think.(just leave it at that) Secondly, i dont want 2 look like some meat headed 190lb "kid" at 5'9, im an athlete, not a bodybuilder. Already done 2 tours in afghan/iraq in combat, met plenty of tool bags like yourself, juicing it up and still cant pass ranger school, dont jump the gun, your advice isnt much help, if anything it seems more negative and more of an insult...

i just asked for advice on a stack pal, not a fight. armchair warrior lol.."the bigger they are, the harder they fall."

 

[Idobehigh]

Bud I just want to jump in here and tell you with that attitude no one will help you it doesn't matter who is in the wrong here we can't take the kind of arguing here.

You asked for help he gave you his opinion, if you don't like it don't respond. At 150lbs is small the reason why everyone is saying to wait is when you jump on gear your strength will sky rocket and your tendons and joints won't keep up, you will more than likely hurt yourself and cause permanent damage, especially coming out of a shoulder injury. Him telling you a weight is more of a guideline If you will, you need to get a base aka more muscle on your frame it doesn't have to be 190lbs but some more weight will be good.

If you just got done with surgery and your 150 pounds because of the surgery and you use to walk around 170 or up then there is no reason to use aas, the reason is muscle memory will help you out there. You will be surprised how fast you regain your size. So essentially you will waste gear and mess up your natural hormones to get back to where you were, you get what I'm saying?

I am trying to be respectful to you and better explain certain things hope you don't take it the wrong way or get discouraged. Just kick ass in the gym and you will get where you need to be shortly.

 

[Mr. Clean02]

lol im inexperienced, young? your fuckin 25 BRO? because you take steroids, do you have a college degree on physiology/kinesiology? your generalizing me, just as you do with everyone in your gym or whatever you believe. look @ your about me, what do you need PED for? you're 6'5 200+ rugby player, not natural. Also, your from the UK, enough said.(typical, hotheaded, arrogant, fuck america attitude) seen plenty of British troops in astan, to realize the dbags from the openminded. you fit the 1st category.
Sorry to be blunt pal..im not as dumb as you think.(just leave it at that) Secondly, i dont want 2 look like some meat headed 190lb "kid" at 5'9, im an athlete, not a bodybuilder. Already done 2 tours in afghan/iraq in combat, met plenty of tool bags like yourself, juicing it up and still cant pass ranger school, dont jump the gun, your advice isnt much help, if anything it seems more negative and more of an insult...

i just asked for advice on a stack pal, not a fight. armchair warrior lol.."the bigger they are, the harder they fall."

First of all, from one vet to another, thanks for your service time. Respect.

I think that the point everyone is trying to get across is one for your own benefit. It's not a bad thing to be 21, or have less experience in the gym than some of us older dudes who've been lifting for many years. I for one wish I was 21 again.

The fact is, you're below your genetic limitations, eat lots and train hard to get a solid "base" before cranking it up. Don't use juice to give you synthetic gains that you'll lose 85% of when your off because in the long run you're wasting your time and in the case of orals, your health.

Train dirty, eat clean, make solid gains and consider a test only cycle to start when you get your shoulder right and strong. Also toss the orals in the trash, pinning is the only way to go man.