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Need help guys, moral delema

Rotten

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A female stripper friend of mine was fucked up and was talking to me a few weeks back by my computer desk. She pulls out a few bottles of pills for no reason at all and walks away. I being nosey look them up to see what they are. They are HIV meds. A few days later I asked her why she showed those to me and why she had them. She started crying and begged me not to tell anyone that she was HIV+. She said I'm the only one that knows. I promised to keep her secret and tell her I'll be her friend she can lean on. I find out that she's fucking half the people I know and getting trains ran on her. The guys used to be my friends but they shit on me a few times and I wrote them off. They all have girlfriends that they are cheating on with this girl.

Here's the moral delema. Do I break her trust and tell all these guys she's probably given them HIV or do I be her friend and keep my mouth shut? My wife says fuck 'em, they shit on me and they treat her like a prostitute so they're getting their paybacks. I say that's true, but we're talking about peoples lives, and their innocent girlfriends lives. The group is a big drama scene mess anyway so this is just going to make it worse X100. I've been tearing myself up over this for two weeks wondering what to do. I think I should tell her that she needs to tell the guys or I will so they can be tested. My wife is so pissed at me for even thinking of telling them that she told me that she didn't want to look at me or talk to me anymore. I was just trying to talk to her to get advice, but I guess we aren't as close as I thought. Isn't your wife supposed to have your back and help you out? I think this is a serious issue.

I can't post this or mention this at the Doghouse cause alot of these guys lurk there, I guess you guys are my only hope. To top things off I flushed all my rec drugs this morning to become a better person, but now I've got a ton of bullshit stress and would kill for a valli.
 
wow this is a tough one. the fact that she just happened to leave her meds out for you to see makes me think she's really reaching out for help. Your wife will hopefully come around and support you in this. As allways the truth is the best way to go. Think of all the innocent people who could be hurt even more if they don't know the truth. Just because your friends happened to fool around doesn't mean they deserve to be ignorant. They have to face up to their girlfriends no matter what. tell them to get tested. Your wife should appreciate your honesty and morals. Good Luck
 
Somthing that my father said to me once was...........

You can never do wrong doing the right thing.
 
Tell them all, now. I have no idea why your wife would be pissed, but NO ONE deserves to die of HIV. My cousin, one of the coolest guys I've ever met, contracted HIV the first sexual encounter he ever had. He died a young man after only having sex one time. You need to tell them, bro. You know you do. Fuck it. I'll tell them for you.
 
despite how much you may hate them, do you think they deserve to die (probably)? Especially the slow horrible death that HIV provides, Id confront her about it first and tell her either she fesses up or you will.
 
as for the recs, good for you, if you feel you need to use something. Get a bunch of gear instead
 
Damn, are you serious!?! You gotta tell them, no doubt about it. Its not like this is something that can be cured with a couple of pills, and if your wife doesn't understand to fucken bad! Even if these guys are assholes we're talking about peoples lives here. Frankly I don't see what the delema is, it's pretty black and white to me. Then again I usually see things that way...and sorry about being so blunt but that's just the way I am.
 
TELL THEM!!!! YOU HAVE TO!! That fucking trick deserves to die...she committing murder...
 
Which question do you have the delima with?...the question about whether or not to tell about this girl's HIV status.....or the question about your wife supporting you?

They HIV status question is cut and dry...true she asked you not to tell people, but then engages in sexually promiscuous behaviour. It isn't as if she asked you not to tell because she was afraid of losing her job.

The question about your wife supporting you, now THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. I am THE LAST ONE TO BE GIVING OUT MARITAL ADVICE....but believe me when I tell you that no marriage will survive if either partner does not feel supported by the other....TRUST ME ON THIS ONE.
 
Rotten,


You truly are sitting on the horns of a dilemma. Unfortunately, I can offer you no wise counsel as this is a question of morality and can not impose mine on you or anyone else. Besides, I'm not sure how I would act in a similar situation. However, as a good Catholic, I would discuss the situation with my priest and seek his guidance.


Let me know what you decide.


L.
 
Rotten, whaaaazzzuuuuppppp?!
Good to see you creeping around here lately. Here is what you do, blackmale her and tell her if she does not bring 30 amps of sust and 4 bottles of ultragan to your house you are going to tell everyone!:devil:

Actually, think about the innocent girlfriends that are going to get killed for doing nothing wrong. i would tell atleast one of your old friends that you heard a rumor that she is HIV positive and to go get tested. Or call from a pay phone and simply say to one of the girls "your boyfriend is cheating on you with a stripper, go get an HIV test. i am sorry, good luck" and hang up. I could not live with myself knowing I could have saved someone's life and did not. :(
 
Simple solution:

Next time the girl needs your shoulder to cry on slip some roffies in her drink, when shes out kill her and then grind her up and make her into a stripper ghoalsh and feed her to the guys
 
DaWickedMoor said:



Simple solution:

Next time the girl needs your shoulder to cry on slip some roffies in her drink, when shes out kill her and then grind her up and make her into a stripper ghoalsh and feed her to the guys



I might find that funny, but in this situation it is just plain wrong. This is a serious problem, nothing to make jokes like that over
 
Oh shit, thats horrible, I am trying to empathize with both parties here. I would advice the stripper to have some type of conscious and tell the guys that she is sleeping with that she is HIV+ or tell her to stop running trains and sleeping around putting other people at risk, this is not fair to others who do not have a clue about her illness. If others knew about her problem they would stop banging her. If she was arrested for prostitution(hypothetically speaking here) and tested positive for HIV, went back on the street continuing to bang for money, arrested again then she would be locked up for fucking life. Thats gross, she should be ashamed of herself for banging others knowing she has HIV+. This is an easy answer, something has to be done, do not just leave it alone and say nothing. Start by asking her to come clean to her sex partners or just stop having sex, because if she doesnt then you are going to ask your friends to go get checked because YOU know one of the girls that they are banging is HIV+. Let me know what you think. Hope I helped a little. peace

Rotten, I tried to reply privately but the board said my answer was too long, I had to cut and paste the shit here. sorry
 
Tell the girl to stop fucking or you will tell everyone. She IS commiting murder. I can't believe she would so something like that. I guess she has no conscience. When all those people die several years from now, you will be riddled with guilt. And I don't know why your wife won't talk to you. Thats pretty ridiculous.
 
she probably has the thought somewhere that some asshole gave it to her so now she is gonna pay him back by fucking other assholes...

tell the friends... they may get tested and all be negative and you find out this was a desperate cry for attention from a girl who in fact is NOT hiv positive...

but, betraying her friendship is nothing compared to letting other people contract that disease... sure, the guys nailing her sound like assholes... but i'd worry more about their girlfriends... their girlfriends who will find out they are cheating and leave them then move on and pass that disease on to yet another innocent person.... the only one who knows is her... the rest dont deserve this. imagine if one of the girls of these guys dates a friend of yours... a true friend... if it gets to that then you will always have that "what if" i told???? would my bro be ok?
 
This is a clear cut case... tell your friends /ex-friends.... this is life and death..just think of the girlfriends... say they break up with your ex-friends and move on...... and they are positive... well..there goes more infections... tell the guys.....I would even tell the girls too...I'd rather wreck a few relationships than possibly ruin many lives.....
 
How could this woman know something like this and NOT inform the people SHE may have infected? She continues to sleep around KNOWING she is HIV+?

God, have mercy on all those souls....

Rotty, this is a tough situation all the way around. Your wife is the most important factor in this equation.YOU need to talk with her more on this subject and tell her that this is killing you inside! There is a huge difference on forgiving the people who did you wrong long ago, and having this type of info on your mind and doing nothing!
 
How could you not tell them? Their girlfriends don't deserve to die. Tell the stupid ho that if she doesn't tell the guys, you will as it has really been eating at you. If she carried on regardless she would no longer be a friend of mine. It is through ignorant people like her that this disease is spreading.
 
First of all, do you nkow every single guy she has slept with?
On one hand I say tell the guys you know that have fucked her...but, on the other hand, did she know she had HIV when she fucked all these guys? At any rate, if these guys have HIV, there is nothing you can do to help them now, once they've got it, that's it, no turning back....2ndly, no matter what, how when or why, nobody deserves to have HIV, period. She;s gonna have it rough as it is, if they know they got it from her, they might make her life more miserable then it already is going to be....3rdly, if these guys do have HIV, wtf knows where they could of gotten it from....it doesn't neccesarily mean it was from her....
 
Actually thinking about it, she could have got it from one of them. Either way it is best they know. Sure, if they have it there's nothing they can do but it could stop them from giving it anyone else.
 
Take a long hard look in the mirror -- you will find all the answers you need within yourself. We all know that you will do the right thing. My first step would be to sit down with the young lady and TRY to make her understand the consequences of her actions. This is a very difficult situation that you are in my friend, I do not envy you. However, there is a reason that this situation has been revealed to you -- you as an individual. Don't compromise yourself or your values -- do the right thing. Nothing good can come out of keeping this secret. On other hand, you could be saving lives by bringing this to the surface in one fashion or another. We are all here with you.
 
Tough call....

...the fact that the guys shit on you is not important at this point. The fact that you gave your word does not matter either.

The ONLY thing that matters is the fact that she knowingly exposing people to the AIDS virus. She is the judge, jury and executioner. The guys have a right to know. YOU have an obligation to tell them...
 
I've known what I needed to do from the beginning. I have told two people. One is a ex-girlfriend of the guy the stripper is "seeing/pimped out by", and she is one of the nicest people I'll ever meet and one of my best friends. I know now he cheated with the stripper while they were dating. She got tested yesterday. The second was my best friend who's brother has AIDS. He knows the situation I'm in with this too and told me its going to be one of the hardest things I've ever done.

I'm meeting with her (the stripper) at lunch today. I left at least 20 messages all over her hangouts yesterday. She finally called me back about 10 minues ago. I said we need to talk about something, and she knew exactly what I was talking about and said she wanted to meet me too. I know she got my message last night, she just didn't want to face me I guess. That makes me sad, cause I'll stand next to her the whole way. The fact that these guys have shit on me doesn't matter, this is life and death. The "delema" I spoke of was the fact that I promised this girl I wouldn't tell. I think your word is your bond, and if you can't keep it your not worth a shit. I've always been the guy everyone goes to, because everyone knows I will keep my mouth shut and just be there to help. That's why this is a delema to me, my word to another person meant that much to me. I guess my word won't mean anything after today, because if she doesn't tell everyone after we have lunch then I will when I get off work at 5.

This girl is so scared that nobody will be her friend after it gets out, and with the "group" she is totally right. I told her I would always be there for her but I'm just one person. A whole group of people are going to shit on her and a whole lot of peoples lives are going to change from what I know in my head. It's fucking sad. I feel that if I don't tell then I am just as wrong as she is, and I am a murderer too. Fuck, this is alot on a person. Now I know why she was so scared to say anything and maybe she needed someone to be strong for her. Why did it have to be me, I have enough going on as it is?

As far as my wife...she still won't talk to me. Won't even look at me and that is truely breaking my heart. I thought we were so strong, and now I question our whole marriage. My wife is not a bad person, she's just really bitter about the way I have been there for these guys time after time, and seen them lie to my face and shit all over me.

Thank you all for reinforcing my decision. I just think I needed someone in my corner for some inner strength. Thanks for your help.

-Rot
 
Good man...

...Rot - my grandfather used to tell me that when you are faced with making choice A or choice B - go with the one that is the hardest to do. That is always the correct one.

As far as the wife goes - understand that she is only looking out for you. It seems that she has your best interest at heart and doesn't want to see you get hurt by your "friends" again.

She'll come around and be there for ya. Give her a little time.
 
tough spot to be in

you're doing the right thing...meet with her and tell her that if she doesn't reveal to the guys she has fuckked that she is +, you will...not telling those guys is tantamount to attempted murder...assault with a deadly weapon...whether you are on good terms with them or not, they all need to be checked out
 
rotten with a moral delemia.....thats weird enough.....but if all these guys are fucking this girl and they know she's fucking every other guy out there, then they should know if she doesn't have something, the other numerous guys might, and they should be smart enough to protect themselves.

If they are dumb fucks....then perhaphs slipping a few..."dude fucking her is like sticking you dick in all of NY city....you could get anything" . But honestly, how can a guy be dumb enough to go fucking a stripper with a track recod unprotected and expect to come out clean? Please....
 
Dude tell them now .I don't even see what your waiting for!If you saw A stranger getting killed would you not step in to help.This is A crime this womans commiting.You can get put up on murder chargers for this.I'm not A lawyer but I think it's true.I would think your wife would be most understanding of this.And what's this bitch telling you this shit for.She probably wants to get caught either that or shes just fuckin with you either way look at all the stress it's cuasing you.Bust her ass man!!!! :mad: :mad:
 
Hey Bro ----

This truely is a problem but not yours.
You have inside info but your not an actor.
The damage was done before you knew.
It a matter of damage control at this point.
Don't sweat this one --- slide thru.
Get the girl under control and prevent the future.
Don't let yourself lose sleep over other lack of humanity.
Everyone should know the risks of sex these days!!
 
u did the right thing....the cruelest thing is a baby can get HIV from its parents, but if the doctors know they are HIV positive they can act during the pregnancy almost risk free and reduce the transmission rate to under 1%.....its sad for the HIV friend you hae because she will forever be labelled just that, HIV and that anytime she gets any kind of infection, the more paranoid of your friends will wig out and think shes got the plaugue or something. worse still she obvoiusly has strong sexual urges and will probably feel that she cant relieve them. i just hope she used a condom when she had sex with these guys, even if she didnt, theres a good chance they may not have HIV. sleep easy :rolleyes:

(oh and personally i think you handled this as best u could under the circumstances)
 
wait a damn minute here!!

first of all, what the hell is wrong with your wife? TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!! this chick may already have a very short life, but think of all the other potential lives you can save. you shouldn't worry about betraying thsi chicks friendship. fuck that, she's possibly KILLING people. she has no right to do that shit. you will be able to sleep a lot easier if you tell these other people what she's doing. the fact that it's been eating at you this long should show you that you KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOING IS WRONG!! good luck
 
She (the stripper) stood me up and isn't answering my calls. I've called four of the guys already and told them to meet me at home after work. This should be interesting.

She had her chance to tell them herself, I guess I'll do it for her.



As far as the wife, she says I yelled at her last night but I think I just raised my voice. We had a real fun morning(where's the sarcasm button?), but its all cool now.
 
Rotten, I know that you and your wife have been through some major devastations....disregard anyone who says stupid shit without knowing A FCUKING THING.

I can understand why she would be upset w/you for feeling (I guess loyalty might be the wrong word here, but it is a close as I can get to express what I am thinking) these "friends". I also understand feeling bound by your word. I too feel that if you don't have your word....what do you have? But there comes a time when you have to realize that keeping your word will do more harm than good. (As I feel it will in this case.)

I think this girl presented the situation to you because she knew how strong your character was and that her "secret" would be safe w/you....but her behaviour is BEYOND self-destructive. She is taking other people's lives into her hands...people that she will NEVER EVEN KNOW.

We are all human and we all make mistakes. As long as we recognize and learn from them, it is OK. You are allowed to break your word in this case, if she is not strong enough to do what is right herself and alter her behaviour. You have done nothing wrong, except perhaps try to be there for someone who needed help. If you can not convince her to step up to the plate and maybe even get some counseling, then I feel that you have fulfilled your obligation and then need to do what is right.

As for you and your wife. It is not that simple. I feel for you both - BELIEVE ME. If you guys can not find a way to work this out it may pass with time, but will cause a rift which will lay dormant but crop up and grow bigger with each difficulty that life throws at you. Don't let your relationship go down the tubes. It is damned hard to find a true friend to go through life with. I know better than anyone, I know.

Work it out. Get to a counselor, talk till you guys are sick of talking and then.....talk some more. Do it. You will not be sorry. Let it slide and you may regret it somewhere down the line.

...Just my .02
 
Rotten, good move calling them over to your house after work. I personally would tell them. Not just for the fact that they could catch it and die, but that the girlfriends could get it and God forbid if they got pregnant and the baby was born with the disease.

At least if you warned them, then you did all that was in your power to literally save their lives. Would you be able to look in the mirror if you did not tell them and they caught and spread HIV to more people.

She asked you not to tell anyone, which is a reasonable request if she was no longer having intercourse with anyone. But when she knows she's contagious and willingly has sex with other people, then something has to be done. Loyalty to her is no longer a factor and its no longer your responsibility to keep the silence you said you would. Her responsibilty was to make sure noone else contracted the disease from her and she disregarded it.

I am big on loyalty meaning a lot, but something has to be done here. If noone was at risk, then yes keep the secret, but since people's lives are being risked knowingly and willingly on her part then I say fuck her.
 
The_One said:
Sound's like your wife is a vengeful little bitch,like most women.

Ok.....The man was expressing that he was having marital difficulties because of this moral dilemma...and you speak harshly and disrespectfully of not only HIS WIFE, but of MOST WOMEN.

See, now I take offense to that. Why you ask?

Because it IS NOT ADVICE it is a cheapshot directed at MOST WOMEN (a group that I happen to belong to) and a man's WIFE (another group that I happen to belong to). So this, in your estimation makes me stupid.

If standing up for respectful discussion about MOST WOMEN and WIVES makes me stupid - THEN I GUESS I AM ONE BIG STUPID BITCH.....and that is MRS QUEEN BITCH TO YOU and SMILE WHEN YOU SAY IT!:D

I have gotten multiple requests to have your pathetic, weak minded little ass banned from the boards, but I don't believe it is necessary at this point. I believe that you are (so far) as harmless though equally annoying as so many gnats that get embedded in the grill of my minivan.

Class dissmissed! Have a nice day!:)
 
.....yea, I'm a typical woman.

Remember what I said on another thread about kissing my weak, inferior (fill in the blank)?....Go ahead, baby, PUCKER UP!


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I am soooooooo gald you took the bait. I have FOUR KIDS, they will not FIT into a "regular" passenger vehicle, FOOL. I NEED A MINIVAN TO HOLD THEM ALL! DUH!

Oh yes, and that fodder about only replying to Rotten's comments about his own wife making her sound like a vengeful bitch? How old are you?.....16/17 tops? If you had life experience you would be able to separate a man venting and hurting about a serious relationship issue and unnecessarily hurling uncalled for RUDE and disrespectful comments about another man's wife and MOST WOMEN IN GENERAL.

Did your mother pottytrain you at gunpoint or not breast feed you or something?....'cause my little snot-nosed brotha - YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES
 
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Strike two Wadgobbler....BM is sometimes to nice...though not in this case...

Try me on fer size Stud-muffins....;)

Ranger
 
UH-OH, The_One just called out Ranger....this is gonna get ugly.....
 
Hey --

like this is helping ---

jezz

The guy has enough problems.

A little respect goes along way.
Thats how this all got start.
The girl forgot to respect herself and then dropped shit on everyone else.
 
Difficult decision my ass.

Fuck her. She can go to jail for attempted murder in some states.

She's ruining their lives, their girlfriends lives, the lives of unborn children and the lives of anyone else they're fucking.

Think of all the innocent girlfriends and unborn children. That's just wrong.

Speak up and do so soon.
 
suck me ----


Yup - can't spell.
Don't worry you'll fuk it up and will tell you about it.
Comes around goes around.
 
I understand about your word being bond Rotten, but sometimes its easier to hide behind a promise than break it for the right reasons. folks rope other folks into promises under false pretenses. You were quite willing and happy to keep the promise when you didn't know her behaviour was morally suspect. (and I dont mean being a stripper either..Imean banging guys while knowing she wasHIV). Other peoples lives are affected, and since life is a bowl full of grey, it comes down to what you think is right.

Best of luck
 
Way tuff situation.... The girl has a lot of her own issues and obviously is scared to face them and their consequences. Frankly I would probably feel the same way, but for god's sake, she's not only not dealing w/ her problems, she's spreading a potentially fatal disease.

Let me give you a scenario and my response - I once dated a guy who I found out later had been fucking his way through two different counties. I felt damn stupid for being the last one to know, and was emotionally hurt by the breach of trust I thought we had. But guess what, I can recover from that. The first thing I did was go running off to get tested. The whole time while I was waiting for my results to come back, all I could think about is how I would chop his dick off with a rusty butter knife, then shove it down his throat and rip out his lungs for having no respect for my life at all. And then I was going to leave him to ponder the subject for a few days and then toss him in the ocean with a 50 lb cement butt plug. OK.... you get the picture... Yes, my tests came back negative. But goddam, the irresponsibility of the guy to do that. Why not just come over to my house and shoot me point blank?? Same result.

If you promised the girl that you wouldnt' say anything and then she continues to not address the situation and still keeps screwing around, that's called "being an accomplice". Minimally you can tell her that you will be there for her, but unless she lets these guys know what's up, you will have to do it for her. Whether or not these guys "deserve what they get" or not is a subjective decision. Whether or not you can live with yourself if something happens is your decision.

I think you are doing the right thing.

Regarding your wife, I agree that she is just looking out for you and is frustrated because these guys are constantly occupying your time and efforts and not giving anything back. She wants you to be appreciated and respected in the way that she knows you should be.
Do what you have to do - if she loves you, she will have to respect that and the whole thing will blow over once the dilemma is addressed.

Good luck & I hope that girl has an angel looking over her because it sounds like she needs it....

~ sassy :angel:
 
i'm a bit lost now cuz the ones posts were all deleted... but its rottens next post that interests me...
 
Dude there is nothing to think about here!! You tell the fucking bitch she's a murdering Ho....You tell your wife this goes beyond some stupid fuckin probles you had with your old bro's AND YOU TELL THEM!!! You may be saving the dude innocent Girlfriends how the hell (no direspect intended) can your wife be so fucking selfish..Maybe the dudes have it comming but all the other people the fuck don't deserve it .Give me their fucking tele #'s and ill tip them off.......
 
Dude, This is simple.

"THE GOOD OF THE MANY OUTWEIGHTS THE GOOD OF ONE"

I HAVE BEEN IN MANY SITUATIONS LIKE THIS .. YOU'VE GOT TO CHOOSE THE LESSER EVIL ...

IN THIS CASE ... STOP THE HIV EPIDEMIC ... INSTEAD OF SAVING A REPUTATION ...

SHE CAN'T SAVE HER REPUTATION ANYWAY ... SOONER PEOPLE WILL KNOW SHE HAS HIV .... WHEN SHE IS SICK ... SO ALL YOUR EFFORT TO KEEP THE SECRET WILL COME TO NAUGHT

 
Uh, if she had a gun and told you she was going to kill some people, would you warn them?

I don't see the difference.

-Warik
 
You knolw what you have to do or you wouldn't have posted this. They're assholes. Do they deserved to die a horrible death? What if one of these buddies gets it on with your sister or someone else close to you after catching it from her cause you kept your mouth shut? There is no dliemma tell her to tell them in front of you the first moment possible or you're basically an accessory to murder dude. No easy way to put that. I thought I had problems right now. I'd hate to walk a mile in your shoes right now.
 
I told her to tell them or I would. She told them. I'm not the most popular person around here right now, but I can look myself in the mirror and sleep at night.
 
thats all that counts bro, your in the right, and the people who are pissed at you are in the wrong, if they give you more shit, just ask them what they would of wantedhad they been in those guys shoes
 
ROTTEN


DUDE, YOU GOTTA TELL SOMEONE WHATS UP. WHAT SHE IS DOING IS A CRIME. IF SHE KNOWS SHE HAS THE VIRUS AND IS STILL HAVING SEX WITHOUT TELLING THEM, THAT IS ILLEGAL. NOT TO MENTION, YOU ARE PROMOTING AN EPIDEMIC!!! IF YOU DO NOT SAY ANYTHING, YOU ARE DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

FRIENDS OR NOT---IF THEY DID SLEEP WITH HER ITS TOO LATE ANYWAY. YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE PLEASURE OF DROPPING THE BOMB ON THEM. EXPLAIN THIS TO THE CHICK IN A NICE WAY SO SHE DOESNT GET CRAZY OVER IT BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.
 
Warik said:
Uh, if she had a gun and told you she was going to kill some people, would you warn them?

I don't see the difference.

-Warik

The difference is that when someone pulls a gun, people scatter. No one runs TOWARD the barrel. These guys don't scatter when she shows up.

I wouldn't even get involved. If you are running a train on a girl...first, you're a scumbag. Second, if you are doing said train and not wearing a rubber, you are a dumb scumbag.

Someone will flame me for this, but in a way, you really only get AIDS if you want AIDS. It is not airborne...it's spread primarily - almost exclusively through sex and IV drug use. The actions that could lead to contracting it are well-known to us (this country) and can be easily avoided. As such it can be prevented. Yes, condoms break, etc., but this is uncommon, and even with a condom you are accepting a risk.

If one goes "inside", protected or not, one is accepting risks. If people can't handle that, don't have sex. Sometimes life teaches lessons the hard way. I bet if these guys have younger brothers, they learn.

Tough situation. But these guys are killing themselves, she is no murderer.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Someone will flame me for this, but in a way, you really only get AIDS if you want AIDS.

Exactly.

I said this in plifter's thread about May dying of AIDS. Unless it's rape, passed from mother to child, or something else completely out of the control of the person who contracts the virus, there is no sympathy from me. The girlfriends need to know about this immediately, and if they test positive, the guys deserve to die slowly.

Seems nobody kills the old fashioned way anymore.
 
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