Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below wondering what you guys could throw at me on this. i have neber done a cycle untill two weeks ago. my cycle is 45mg anavar ed(still no result from it). but before this i have had gyno since i was about 17 or 18. i did takre andro back in highschool and that is all i could attribute it to. it is better on some days and worse on others(usually depending on diet). what can i do or take beside surgery to get rid of this.( i wlll get surgery when i can affor it and have time for it). natural remedies? diet? druds?????thanks, whose down wit LPP!
naturally occuring gyno?
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Diabolical
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I am glad you posted that CEO.
I was under the impression that if it didnt go away in a month that surgery was the only option. I guess you learn something new everyday.
I was under the impression that if it didnt go away in a month that surgery was the only option. I guess you learn something new everyday.
I have been on nolvadex now for just about two months at 20 mgs a day. I am now beginning to see a big difference. Mine too was from a bad experience with andro in high school and puffy nips since ive been a child. Hey ceo thats interesting that you suggest splitting the dosage up. What would be your reasoning for that. Ive been doing 20 mgs all at once in the morning and was just wondering if splitting it up would be more effective.
There is NO way to get rid of Gyno if it has tissue growth under the nip..I myself have a little case of that from as early as I can remember and have tried almost everything. Surgary is your only option.
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Citruscide
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I had naturally occuring gyno, developed when I was 11... had it removed at 23. No other treatment worked other than the knife.
Consequently, it will redevelop with usage of gear... as the entire gland is not removed...
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Consequently, it will redevelop with usage of gear... as the entire gland is not removed...
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DTOX
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Also note that there's a difference between chest fat and gyno.
Real gyno feels like little beans under your nipple.
If it's real gyno there's only one way to deal with it: surgery. All the anti-estrogens in the world aren't going to do anything--once you stop taking them it'll come back.
See if your insurance co will cover it.
Real gyno feels like little beans under your nipple.
If it's real gyno there's only one way to deal with it: surgery. All the anti-estrogens in the world aren't going to do anything--once you stop taking them it'll come back.
See if your insurance co will cover it.
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Citruscide
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hehe... little beans. Man, when I had it as a kid, it felt like silver dollar sized disks!!! 
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MUSTANG_18 said:
well...here is one study I have cited several times here and I will give the link to again. I have also seen other studies with very similar results. And, I have had 2 gyno surgeries...and it came back again for the 3rd time. Then, I took nolva at 40mgs a day, and it disappeared.
Here is the link to the study:
http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic934.htm
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ceo said:
Interesting... VERY interesting... Thank you.
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Polish Prince
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when you say that all the anti-e's can't do anything for the natural gyno that you might of been born with, whats the difference if u don't get it until u juice up? Cus when your on roids and you get gyno u can cure it with nolvadex and shit like that right? well why can't it be cured if you've had it for a longer time?
can you feel the love! if i had this conversation with my friends they would nevber look at me the same again! men talking about there nipples, woo hoo! But seriously folks thanks for all of the help. dosent the surgery take 3 months to heal before you can train again???? i have a meet coming up and people already accuse me of jucing because of my fukin nips. anyway i know i can do a search but if any of you have the knowledge or time what is the detection times of nolvadex (met/half life) and do they even test for it? or could i get it from a doctor with a subscriptionEtc...
I highly doubt they will test for nolvadex specifically. Someone else might be able to help you a little better as far as that. As for getting it at the doctor i believe its easier and probably cheaper to purchase right online at a site like www.pumpnpose.com. Very fast and professional service.
I have always thought true gyno never went away unless it was surgically removed. Now chest fat and puffiness could be solved by nolva and the such.
However, a while back there was a thread on here about a GYNO KILLER cycle where you injected predisone (I think... not sure) directly into the lump and it dissolved it.
You can do a search on that. Would be interesting to see if anyone thought that was an alternative to having surgery.
However, a while back there was a thread on here about a GYNO KILLER cycle where you injected predisone (I think... not sure) directly into the lump and it dissolved it.
You can do a search on that. Would be interesting to see if anyone thought that was an alternative to having surgery.
MakinGains164
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Is it possible to get gyno with only doing one cycle of 1-AD. It doesn't armoatize so hopefully i have that on my side
I have no idea what is wrong with some people here. I guess theyre illiterate. The link I provided is a very thorough study...READ IT!!! I even provided my own personal experience. All for nought I guess. I'm not sure exactly what responses these people are looking for, but I guess clinical studies and anecdotal experiences are what they are not looking for.
Here is some info. from that link in regards to Clomid, and Nolvadex:
Clomiphene, an antiestrogen, can be administered on a trial basis at a dose of 50-100 mg PO every day for up to 6 months. About 50% of patients achieve partial improvement in breast size, and about 20% of patients might note complete resolution. Figures vary with the type and duration of gynecomastia. Side effects are rare and include visual problems, skin rash, and nausea.
Tamoxifen, an estrogen antagonist, is effective for recent onset and tender gynecomastia when used in doses of 10-20 mg PO twice daily. Up to 80% of patients note partial-to-complete resolution of gynecomastia within 3 months. Nausea and epigastric discomfort are the main side effects.
Here is some info. from that link in regards to Clomid, and Nolvadex:
Clomiphene, an antiestrogen, can be administered on a trial basis at a dose of 50-100 mg PO every day for up to 6 months. About 50% of patients achieve partial improvement in breast size, and about 20% of patients might note complete resolution. Figures vary with the type and duration of gynecomastia. Side effects are rare and include visual problems, skin rash, and nausea.
Tamoxifen, an estrogen antagonist, is effective for recent onset and tender gynecomastia when used in doses of 10-20 mg PO twice daily. Up to 80% of patients note partial-to-complete resolution of gynecomastia within 3 months. Nausea and epigastric discomfort are the main side effects.
i went to the site sugjested and it looked like a vial. unless i looked at the wrong thing!
FlexManning
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Citruscide said:hehe... little beans. Man, when I had it as a kid, it felt like silver dollar sized disks!!!
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Yeah, no kidding man. I've had a case of naturally occuring gyno since I was a kid and it sounds like you've dealt with the same thing.
Last time I went to a doctor he didn't seem to know gyno from dog dick so I couldn't get it covered by insurance. He said "well, come back in a couple months and we'll see how it's doing." I felt like saying, "man, like I've told you dumbfuck, I've had the shit since I was 14 or 15." I guess I was like 23 or so when I went in there. It was about 3 years ago I guess. Maybe he thought it was a trick to get him to play with my nips.
Anyway, next time I'll do a cycle and make sure I'm in shape so it's obvious what it is. Then I'll just say I was doing andro and my nipples have been sore, blah, blah. Or some crap like that so I can get it covered.
The link that was posted sounds interesting, I'll check that out too.
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