I guess I missed the Nandrosol problem somehow... I'll try to go back and find it. Yes they do hype a bit too much. The cholesterol delivery system for Methoxy-7 is actually very good, though. Since methoxyflavone is fat soluble, very little gets absorbed (unless you take it with a very fatty meal). Dissolving the methoxyflavone in cholesterol works well, although I am not too keen on ingesting that much extra cholesterol each day. The new formula coming out this week ditches the cholesterol, I believe, by changing the flavone to a more absorbable compound. Their prohormone products work pretty well. If you stick to the two week cycle, you won't gain that much (5-10lbs), but if you extend out to a 7 or 8 week cycle, followed by a truckload of Tribex-500 or maybe some Clomid, much higher gains can be obtained, provided you eat enough.