My Quest to COMPETE - BEAT THE DISEASE!

[SgtSlaughter]

Also, I do appecited the comments but STOP....I need to hear that I am fading that my bulking needs to progress and i'll be able to get back to where I was and BETTER..hearing you look good does me NO JUSTICE because then I think about everyh morsel and cut cals....see how this mind works???

I agree... you're NOT supposed to look that friggin' lean on a bulk, even if it's clean...that's WAAAAY lean.

Bro, in the a.m. depleted or not, i've never been THAT lean. You need to keep eating brother.

 

[BiggT]

Jeff, you're DICED...you look like a human anatomy chart, and you've got some good development.....you really would look unreal with more muscle..... feed your body what it needs, man.....

The workout looks good, if you go with dips, I'd cut out one triceps movement....actually, aren't skulls and French presses the same thing??

 

[Neo22]

Jeff, you're DICED...you look like a human anatomy chart, and you've got some good development.....you really would look unreal with more muscle..... feed your body what it needs, man.....

The workout looks good, if you go with dips, I'd cut out one triceps movement....actually, aren't skulls and French presses the same thing??

ya they are the same

 

[JKurz1]

no they are different movements......

 

[immortalis]

The only thing that helps skinny guys like us is food, food and more food. Youre metabolism is going to be enough to keep you lean as fuck. You look great as is, and I'd kill to have a body like that. I'd immediately try to go into modeling heh. But you want to get bigger, so you gotta eat like a big man.

 

[Neo22]

no they are different movements......

no they are not

http://www.changingshape.com/exercise/strengthtraining/gym/barbellfrenchpress.asp

you can use a barbell for both or ez curl bar or dumbells. Its the same movement dude.

 

[blut wump]

French press is done with your torso vertical. I think they're still called French press regardless of whether you're seated or standing. I usually called them BB triceps extensions.

Skulls are always done on your back with the risk of crushing your skull.

You knacker your elbows in either variation but, I think, more so with the skullcrushers.

French Press Image

 

[Quadsweep]

QS, look at it this way: when you have a legs day you might go into the gym and do, including warmups, 10 sets of squats. You'll then hit the leg press for another 5 sets. After that, to squeeze the last bit out of the legs, you might move on to do some leg-extensions. All in all, maybe 20 - 25 sets for legs of assorted exercises, maybe more, many taken to failure, depending on the individual.

In BiggT's template above, he'd have JK doing 14 sets split through the week, likely none of which would go to failure at this stage.

It's not sound to make the statement that 3x per week will lead to overtraining. Before we dismiss the Oly lifters who, as you say, on most of their lifts perform only the concentric part of their workout. This doesn't apply to their squatting on which they have to go down and then come back up just like anyone else.

I'm not suggesting that 1x per week will not work well for any trainee if it's performed with progression as a goal but many, many studies on athletes have shown that 2x or 3x is better than 1x per week. It certainly leads to better conditioning and, as I mentioned previously, reduces needless muscle aches.

At it's simplest, imagine the squatting he'd do in one workout spread over three workouts. How can anyone suggest that this is more likely to lead to overtraining than performing all of the work in one workout? Almost any long-term program is down to manipulating the variables of Intensity (%-age of 1RM), Volume (sets / reps per workout) and frequency (how often one works a lift). By manipulating these variables, stress and any tendency to overtrain can be controlled.

With dual-factor training, for the more advanced trainee, the variables are set to head for overtraining deliberately. As it approaches, and the trainee gets into over-reaching and starts to feel his performance fall, the variables are reduced and modified to permit recovery and ongoing gains before cycling again in a wave-like manner. There are many variations.

For anyone interested in learning more, I can recommend spending some time at Madcow's Geocities site

Athletes have been using these principles for decades. They were the principles that lead the Soviets to dominate the lifting stage and allowed the US to compete on even terms again afterwards. These principles work both for muscular gains and for performance whether training naturally or on gear.

I suppose the reason I do not like this kind of traininga nd in my mind why to me it would eventually lead to overtraining is because of how I train every time I train...all out. For BB purposes this si just a better way to go and I think that can bbe seen in the fact that most all BB train in this manner. I know there are many ways to skin a cat and not all on this board are going for size shape and definition. The style of training I see being discussed here is Olympic based type periodization. To be honest I do not have time to train more than 4 times a week anyway. I was not slamming on anyone here so everyone knows. I am just saying by and large what works best for myself and my clients given life's constraints. I have never claimed to have eaten all the brains. (Fonz did already)

Quadsweep

 

[JKurz1]

sample bro?? chest routine?

 

[JKurz1]

I followed the Big Man's chest and tri routine with a little more volume....not sure what to hit today...I'll update in a few.....hammys and back squats?