My next cycle, little bit different than the average cycles

[Athernigy]

Week 1-16 Fina 75mg/day
Week 1-16 DNP 200-400mg/day (depending on tolerance) Every other week (1week on/1week off)
Week 1-16 Humalin R 50-100iu/day Every other week (Take during weeks I don't take DNP)
Week 1-16 Dbol 50mg/day (15mg during weeks of DNP)

Run aromasin throughout, 25mg ed or eod (haven't decided).

Come off with clomid and aromasin and might include a primo bridge...

Diet will be approx 7000calories throughout the whole time, might increase it in the later weeks.
Training will be to the T from Doggcrapp's style.

ALA or r-ALA throughout ...
Might get some Tyler's too, depending on how I tolerate the dbol ...
Use creatine and glutamine religiously throughout the whole cycle.
Use necessary vitamins during dnp weeks.

2-3gallons of water (3gallons during dnp weeks).

Stats are: 6'3 240lbs 14-15% bf

This will be my fourth cycle and second run with dnp. I've used slin religiously before so I know how I react to it.

-sk

 

[NFG123]

Too much gear for too long. Shorten this, drop the dnp, drop the dbol for so long, drop the fina, start again.

This is dangerous and unnecessary, imo.
NFG

 

[Athernigy]

Too much gear for too long. Shorten this, drop the dnp, drop the dbol for so long, drop the fina, start again.

This is dangerous and unnecessary, imo.
NFG

I am not using high amounts, just for a longer period of time.
Only thing I am a little worried about is 16weeks on dbol, but I lower the dosses during the weeks while on dnp (although I know blood levels won't be steady).

-sk

 

[guards]

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS CYCLE!!! WAY TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE GAINS.

 

[Athernigy]

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS CYCLE!!! WAY TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE GAINS.

Care to elaborate? I have been around for a while, and this looks good to me.

-sk

 

[Athernigy]

Instead of doing the 7/7 split I might do a 18/9 split, meaning 18days on fina/dbol/slin, then 9days on fina/dnp/and low dose dbol. All for the 4months or so ...
-sk

 

[guards]

The reason i say don't do it, is that you can get the exact same gains with more stable and reliable compounds.


I am NOT a big fan of DNP...a little TOO aggressive for my taste. But that is just me.

But mixing DNP and slin is just plain stupid IMO....two very unpredictable and potent drugs that are difficult to monitor and control. Kinda like playing russian roulette.

What are your goals? Are you cutting? Or bulking?

 

[Athernigy]

The reason i say don't do it, is that you can get the exact same gains with more stable and reliable compounds.


I am NOT a big fan of DNP...a little TOO aggressive for my taste. But that is just me.

But mixing DNP and slin is just plain stupid IMO....two very unpredictable and potent drugs that are difficult to monitor and control. Kinda like playing russian roulette.

What are your goals? Are you cutting? Or bulking?

I am doing dnp on the weeks that I am not doing slin, so I am really not mixing them at all.

This is more of a cutter, but I am gonna eat like bulking. In hopes of possibly doing both.

Nowdays the general idea is to bulk or cut and do about 2cycles per year (let's just say), but I am doing this approach and bulking for part of my cycle and curring the other part and keep on switching to prevent muscle loss. My diet will remain the same throughout.

-sk

 

[Athernigy]

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[Mike P.T.]

Haha I knew you couldn't resist!!! Welcome back bro.

Anyway looks a little too crazy for me. Definately unorthodox but so are my ways. You have experience and knowledge so you should be ok. Be careful though bro and good luck.

 

[bebaumax]

Your Dbol's too high too long. You don't need that much, especially not with that much fina. Run the Dbol at 20-25mg/day and you'll be a LOT better off.

How are you getting 7000 cals? I love reading these numbers from people, but a quick breakdown shows:
500g protein? = 2000cals
1000g carbs? = 4000cals
111g fat??? = 1000cals

Does this make any sense to you? Do you have one of the fastest metabolisms known to man? Were you going to try to get MORE protein than that? 4000 cals is almost MAX for anyone.. 5000 probably is.
-B

 

[Athernigy]

Your Dbol's too high too long. You don't need that much, especially not with that much fina. Run the Dbol at 20-25mg/day and you'll be a LOT better off.

How are you getting 7000 cals? I love reading these numbers from people, but a quick breakdown shows:
500g protein? = 2000cals
1000g carbs? = 4000cals
111g fat??? = 1000cals

Does this make any sense to you? Do you have one of the fastest metabolisms known to man? Were you going to try to get MORE protein than that? 4000 cals is almost MAX for anyone.. 5000 probably is.
-B

That's why I have the dnp in there, so I burn the extra fat that I might gain during the slin periods with high calories. And I do need a LOT of carbs with all the slin I take, and the fats and protein are easy. I am starting to train under doggcrapp's routine and he suggests double your bodyweight + 50grams of protein while on ... 240*2+50=520.

Mikey,

All I gotta say is oh and happy turkey day.

-sk

 

[bebaumax]

That's why I have the dnp in there, so I burn the extra fat that I might gain during the slin periods with high calories. And I do need a LOT of carbs with all the slin I take, and the fats and protein are easy. I am starting to train under doggcrapp's routine and he suggests double your bodyweight + 50grams of protein while on ... 240*2+50=520.

Mikey,

All I gotta say is oh and happy turkey day.

-sk

<laugh> alright, bro.. you know better than me. Let us know how it goes, my man!
-B

 

[Him1]

I was cool when I saw the fina. The d-bol didn't even bother me too bad... if you know how to take care of your liver, and it sounds like you do. But, 50-100 iu's of Insulin? Fuck, man. And dnp, too? I'm not flaming, just hoping for your sake you don't become diabetic and eat up your internal organs at the same time. Maybe it's just me(and I think Realgains is w/ me on this one), but, I think Tren and some good ol' test is all I've needed and all I'll need for a while.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Looks decent,I would also toss in a light amount of test,and I would also consider tossing in short bursts of HCG every 4 weeks or so so your testes don't recede into never-never land.
Hit all the anti-oxidants on top of the ALA,and the Tyler would be a wise idea as well running the d-bol that length.

 

[Spectre]

Why not 8 weeks of bulk and 8 weeks of cut?