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My Hefty Upcoming Bulking Cycle!

serge said:


too many holes in it, testosterone is fine, dbol is fine, move tren right after dbol into week 5, dont run eq past everything else, should be ran throughout. plus the cycle should be ended with short acting gear

Excellently put. Karma to you. I forgot to explain why i had the things where i did. I originally planned on the cycle being 16 weeks long and i didn't want to end with fina becuase of the terrible crash i heard some experience when ending with it. As far as where the EQ is, i decided to extend the cycle for quite awhile. I will also be running something like anadrol or winny with the EQ, but havn't got my mind set just yet. Thats why I'm here, to get you guys suggestions! Thanks bro's!

Chris
 
khemix said:


Excellently put. Karma to you. I forgot to explain why i had the things where i did. I originally planned on the cycle being 16 weeks long and i didn't want to end with fina becuase of the terrible crash i heard some experience when ending with it. As far as where the EQ is, i decided to extend the cycle for quite awhile. I will also be running something like anadrol or winny with the EQ, but havn't got my mind set just yet. Thats why I'm here, to get you guys suggestions! Thanks bro's!

Chris

fina crash is greatly exagerated, i came off fina many times, NO PROBLEMS, although milder drugs would make more scense, the key is fast acting gear at the end of the cycle, NO EQ....winny, anavar, oral primo, test prop........you get the idea
 
serge said:


fina crash is greatly exagerated, i came off fina many times, NO PROBLEMS, although milder drugs would make more scense, the key is fast acting gear at the end of the cycle, NO EQ....winny, anavar, oral primo, test prop........you get the idea

Yes I see exactly what your saying. I'm not ending with the EQ, that is jsut as far as I've planned my cycle. I am going to judge by how my body feels and looks and what my body tells me as to where i go from there. If i decide to end the cycle soon I will switch to test prop and dbol for 3-4 weeks. I will also be doing HCG therapy as needed throughout the cycle, as well as clomid and HCG post cycle.

Conserning the winny or anadrol....yes they are different sides of the chart. Most people use winny to cut up, but thats not the only thing that it can be used for. I will most likely go with anadrol though, just have to consider a little bit more.

Lets say that I do the cycle like this, and decide to end shortly after the EQ, how does this look guys?

Dbol, 25-30mg/ed, 1-5wks
Test Enth, 750mg/wk, 1-16wks
Fina, 75mg/eod, 5-12wks
Anadrol, 50mg/ed, 10-14wks
EQ, 500mg/wk, 10-22wks
Dbol, 25-30mg/ed, 22-25wks
Test Prop, 100mg/eod, 22-25wks

Nolvadex, 20mg/ed, 1-6wks, 22-26wks (and anytime needed)
HCG therapy throughout cycle as needed
HCG and clomid therapy start when?

I've never ended a cycle with fast acting gear such as prop, so I'm still unsure when I should start post cycle. The EQ will be out of my system by the time the cycle ends, so when would you guys suggest I start post cycle therapy?

I know that is ALOT of gear for a long time. I plan to near completely change my physique. I'm not worried about gaining much fat as stated before, my metabolism being so high. I will get blood tests done and cholesterol checked every month or so. Thanks bro! Karma to all who help!

Chris
 
Its a lot of aas for someone who doesn't compete. But if my 2 cents is worth anything I would run it like this..

week1-4 25mg dbol
week1-12 500-750mg test
week1-14 500-750mg Eq

Believe me....there is no reason to run tren in that cycle. You already have a strong androgen influence with the dbol and test. If you really feel that the dosages are too small, then increase the equipoise.

Good Luck
 
I can't remember hearing any mention of food. Would you mind posting both your diet and your training routine?
 
slobberknocker said:
I can't remember hearing any mention of food. Would you mind posting both your diet and your training routine?

Mon:
Chest:
Flat bench, 5x6-10.
Dumbell Fly's, 5x6-10.
Incline 5x6-10.
Cable-crossovers, 6x10-12.

Biceps:
Barbell curls, 6x6-10.
Dumbell curls, 5x6-10.
Upright cable curls, 6x10-12.

Tues:
Back:
Lat pulldowns 6x6-10.
T-bar rows, 6x6-10.
Seated pulley rows, 6x6-10.
One-arm dumbell rows 5x6-10.


2-Chair weighted dips (weight on lap, me suspended between 2 benches)
Close-grip bench presses 6x6-10
Pushdowns 6x6-10
French press (barbell) 6x6-10 (if time permits)

Wed:
Legs:
Squats, 6x8-12.
Leg extensions, 6x12-15.
Leg curls, 6x10-12.
Calve raises, 6xFailure.

Thurs:
Shoulders:
Seated barbell presses, 6x6-10.
Lateral raises (standing), 6x6-10.
Rear-delt lateral raises, 5x6-10.

Forarms:
Wrist curls (forearms on knees), 6xFailure.
Reverse barbell curls, 6xFailure.

Fri:
Abs:
Sitting ab crunches. I sit on my heels and pull 190lbs down using my abs on the trcips push-down machine.


As for food. I don't have a specific diet. I eat atleast 300g's of protein each day and take in atleast 5000 calories as well. I drink 1 or 2 Nlarge MRP shakes (600 calories, 52g's protein) throughout the day as well, depending on my i feel and if i have time.

Chris
 
Point 1) You could afford to gain a lot more first naturally than hit this cycle and it would bump you up that much more
Point 2) If you had a good base before this cycle then I would say its keep it around 16 weeks as that is not to long
Point 3) AD is not the killer drug some may think, although I can respect if someone had a bad expirance with it
Point4) drol week 1-4 Tren week 1-8 EQ front load at 1g first 2
weeks and then hit the 500 week 1-10 at week 12 drop
the test to 400-500 and let your body normalize( get used to the wt you have obtained)
Point 5) Save this cycle work on the eating and get to about 210
on your own then hit it, but I doubt you will so those are
my suggestions. You may have a fast metabolism but you could gain wt on your own. Believe me. Good luck and hope it works for you.
 
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