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My Dermacrine Experience

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BigRupe

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WEEK ONE UPDATE:

I am a 46year old male. I haven't run an AAS cycle for over a year if not longer, and before that it had been several years since I ran a cycle. I was taking Proviron about 8 months or so ago.

I received my product on the evening of the 9th and counter to the directions I just had to start my cycle. I did 2 pumps worth (not the spray pump) and I didn't experience any insomnia that night.

I have taken 4 pumps a day with the exception of one day that I traveled and had a bit of a cold. I didn't take any at all that day.



SENSE OF WELL BEING:

To date I do notice an increase in focus and that slight bit of underlying excitability and bit of that buzz like you get from caffiene or something.

AAS always do this to me. Make me a bit hyper. I have noticed that. So I think the increase of my testosterone is causing this

SEX DRIVE:

I did notice a bump in my sex drive which is unusally high for a guy my age to begin with, but I do notice that I am having increased libido along with increase ejaculate which is a plus.

WORK OUTS:

My work outs have been limited because of sinus infection, but I have felt pretty good when I have worked out. The day after squats my thighs and ass were killing me, but only 24 hours later and I was feeling pretty good. So recovery time seems to has decreased dramatically for me post Dermacrine use. I love that!

APPETITE:

Today I have noticed a tremendous increase in appetite. My stomach was actually hurting after 3 hours when normally I would not be as hungry. Last night I woke up starved and went off the diet a bit.

MENTAL FOCUS

I am involved in banking and I had a tremendous client meeting last night. I didn't get the sale, but was truly on my game. I did feel that confidence boost that I get from AAS! Plus the guy's wife was hitting one me. LOL


SUMMARY

I regret not doing any pre testosterone lab work, but last time I checked it was in the 540 to 600 range (I will look up and post) and this was again post cycle and I have had results as high as 1100 over the years. So my natural levels have always been high even at this age!

My last lab work had low LH levels so I WILL get that retested after week 4 to see if Dermacrine has helped, hurt, or had no affect on that.

Overall I am pleased with my results. I need to lose some body fat in the abdominal region. As I've gotten older it's become more difficult for me to stay cut and keep a clean diet as I travel so damn much and eat out 95% of the time, so this will be a good test for the product to see how it performs for me in this area.

I will report back in One week and I will give my HONEST assessments, good or bad of the product. I am doing this for those who might be interested. I won't pull any punches.

In theory it's a BRILLIANT idea and great product. I just hope I continue to see good results.

I have been a plat member for years and I have bought so many things from this site and have been mostly disappointed the majority of the time. The product hype was never what MY personal results were. I am thinking hopefully that this time will be different.
 
Thanx for the feedback. We need more paying customers to weigh in with their results.



-BRR
 
ya we had some meet head in another thread talking about you bro.so its good to see you make this thread and clear that up for people.......I knew you would be loving the derma......
 
I am 5'8" and weigh about 185. When I am cut I weigh about 169 pounds. So I need to lose about 15 or 16 pounds

For the record I have no relationship with the Dermacrine folks and paid for my order myself.

I also never asked for any and never will.

I get the emails same as everyone else who's a plat member. I looked at the product, liked the idea, and decided what the hell.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

AND if it doesn't work for me after a bottle or two I'll report that also.

I do believe that for someone my age this is the ultimate product and I am thankful people are out there creating these kinds of products.
 
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BigRupe said:
For the record I have no relationship. with the Dermacrine folks and paid for my order myself.

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uhm careful you guys say this too many times and it is going to have the reverse effect...
 
Primordial Performance said:
Rupe,

Do you plan on gettin the blood tested while your on the derma?

-Pp
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wow bigrupe things certianly have changed in the last day sense you posted on another thread..... but we all change .....


didnt you say yesterday at 12:06
"So far I haven't noticed much if anything. It has been 5 days now"

less then 6 hours and all of the sudden results like that damn,
today is the 15th you started taken it on the 9th that means today is the 6th day...

good to see things changing with your log ....
 
chazk said:
wow bigrupe things certianly have changed in the last day sense you posted on another thread..... but we all change .....


didnt you say yesterday at 12:06
"So far I haven't noticed much if anything. It has been 5 days now"

less then 6 hours and all of the sudden results like that damn,
today is the 15th you started taken it on the 9th that means today is the 6th day...

good to see things changing with your log ....
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BigRupe it seems very suspicious that you had an about face within a few hours. From not feeling anything to a whole list of positives in a matter of a few hours? What is the truth here??
 
BigRupe said:
I am 5'8" and weigh about 185. When I am cut I weigh about 169 pounds. So I need to lose about 15 or 16 pounds

For the record I have no relationship with the Dermacrine folks and paid for my order myself.

I also never asked for any and never will.

I get the emails same as everyone else who's a plat member. I looked at the product, liked the idea, and decided what the hell.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

AND if it doesn't work for me after a bottle or two I'll report that also.

I do believe that for someone my age this is the ultimate product and I am thankful people are out there creating these kinds of products.
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for the record he posted that at 11:06 PM on wensday and then posted this thread at 05:05 PM on thersday thats about a very large 18 hours latter bro.not 6 hours.....if your going to try to talk shit at least get your facts str8
before you do it. :)
 
needtogetas said:
for the record he posted that at 11:06 PM on wensday and then posted this thread at 05:05 PM on thersday thats about a very large 18 hours latter bro.not 6 hours.....if your going to try to talk shit at least get your facts str8
before you do it. :)
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Yesterday, 12:06 AM #75
BigRupe

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So far I haven't noticed much if anything. It has been 5 days now

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then 18 hours later



Yesterday 06:05 PM
BigRupe WEEK ONE UPDATE:

I am a 46year old male. I haven't run an AAS cycle for over a year if not longer, and before that it had been several years since I ran a cycle. I was taking Proviron about 8 months or so ago.

18 hours .... he went to sleep and awoke a changed man after good shit and a starbucks coffee he felt great... oh and a few sprays of derma
 
striations said:
BigRupe it seems very suspicious that you had an about face within a few hours. From not feeling anything to a whole list of positives in a matter of a few hours? What is the truth here??
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I went over to his house and broke his kneecap, then I offered him $10000 bucks and the safety of his other knee if he posted good stuff on EF. And if you guys don't stop your doubting I'm comin for all of you too! :chomp: :chomp: :chomp: :chomp:
 
I will say this much about dhea...
I used it 10 years ago before any other steroids

I took 800mg a day due to reading that it was poorley absorbed through oral consumption....
I did notice that hair started to grow on my shoulers, MY belly fat did go down and people told me man you look great are you on roids I told them dhea but didnt tell them the dose...
I used purtian pride becuase it was buy one get 2 free 500 tablets.
I did feel throwing the dhea in the pill grinder making poweder reall helped with absorbtion. SO if transdermal can be done the rate prob would be even more effective..

I did feel that dhea was better for burning fat ,and andro was better for testosterone boosting and acne...


also why hasent some one created a methyl 7 keto dhea? for oral consumption I suspect the absorbtion would be ten fold and people would get great results with 75 mg a day
I can garantee that people if they used 800mg a day of dhea could prob compare it to 60mg a day of anavar for fat loss and muscle building...


my only concern is the dose in the derma product... the amounts used and the amount that makes it through the skin is it enough to make a difference to the body?

I read that transdermals are only 40% absorbed if that at best...
so would it be safe to say what every dose is in the derma only 40% makes it through the fatty layers of the skin....
Alot of transdermals get trapped in fat and locked it then sweated back out and the body tries to cleanse the area of the forgien substance...
would adding dmso help make a transdermal more effetive?
 
chazk said:
I will say this much about dhea...
I used it 10 years ago before any other steroids

I took 800mg a day due to reading that it was poorley absorbed through oral consumption....
I did notice that hair started to grow on my shoulers, MY belly fat did go down and people told me man you look great are you on roids I told them dhea but didnt tell them the dose...
I used purtian pride becuase it was buy one get 2 free 500 tablets.
I did feel throwing the dhea in the pill grinder making poweder reall helped with absorbtion. SO if transdermal can be done the rate prob would be even more effective..

I did feel that dhea was better for burning fat ,and andro was better for testosterone boosting and acne...


also why hasent some one created a methyl 7 keto dhea? for oral consumption I suspect the absorbtion would be ten fold and people would get great results with 75 mg a day
I can garantee that people if they used 800mg a day of dhea could prob compare it to 60mg a day of anavar for fat loss and muscle building...


my only concern is the dose in the derma product... the amounts used and the amount that makes it through the skin is it enough to make a difference to the body?

I read that transdermals are only 40% absorbed if that at best...
so would it be safe to say what every dose is in the derma only 40% makes it through the fatty layers of the skin....
Alot of transdermals get trapped in fat and locked it then sweated back out and the body tries to cleanse the area of the forgien substance...
would adding dmso help make a transdermal more effetive?
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just so you know custom caps has it.http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
 
chazk said:
I will say this much about dhea...
I used it 10 years ago before any other steroids

I took 800mg a day due to reading that it was poorley absorbed through oral consumption....
I did notice that hair started to grow on my shoulers, MY belly fat did go down and people told me man you look great are you on roids I told them dhea but didnt tell them the dose...
I used purtian pride becuase it was buy one get 2 free 500 tablets.
I did feel throwing the dhea in the pill grinder making poweder reall helped with absorbtion. SO if transdermal can be done the rate prob would be even more effective..

I did feel that dhea was better for burning fat ,and andro was better for testosterone boosting and acne...


also why hasent some one created a methyl 7 keto dhea? for oral consumption I suspect the absorbtion would be ten fold and people would get great results with 75 mg a day
I can garantee that people if they used 800mg a day of dhea could prob compare it to 60mg a day of anavar for fat loss and muscle building...


my only concern is the dose in the derma product... the amounts used and the amount that makes it through the skin is it enough to make a difference to the body?

I read that transdermals are only 40% absorbed if that at best...
so would it be safe to say what every dose is in the derma only 40% makes it through the fatty layers of the skin....
Alot of transdermals get trapped in fat and locked it then sweated back out and the body tries to cleanse the area of the forgien substance...
would adding dmso help make a transdermal more effetive?
Click to expand...
not only do you have to take absorption into acount when talking about dhea
but also when taking it transdermal it has a lot less to pass threw before it can take effect.
 
chazk said:
I will say this much about dhea...
I used it 10 years ago before any other steroids

I took 800mg a day due to reading that it was poorley absorbed through oral consumption....
I did notice that hair started to grow on my shoulers, MY belly fat did go down and people told me man you look great are you on roids I told them dhea but didnt tell them the dose...
I used purtian pride becuase it was buy one get 2 free 500 tablets.
I did feel throwing the dhea in the pill grinder making poweder reall helped with absorbtion. SO if transdermal can be done the rate prob would be even more effective..

I did feel that dhea was better for burning fat ,and andro was better for testosterone boosting and acne...


also why hasent some one created a methyl 7 keto dhea? for oral consumption I suspect the absorbtion would be ten fold and people would get great results with 75 mg a day
I can garantee that people if they used 800mg a day of dhea could prob compare it to 60mg a day of anavar for fat loss and muscle building...


my only concern is the dose in the derma product... the amounts used and the amount that makes it through the skin is it enough to make a difference to the body?

I read that transdermals are only 40% absorbed if that at best...
so would it be safe to say what every dose is in the derma only 40% makes it through the fatty layers of the skin....
Alot of transdermals get trapped in fat and locked it then sweated back out and the body tries to cleanse the area of the forgien substance...
would adding dmso help make a transdermal more effetive?
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I dunno, I've read a little on j-keto, looks like good stuff. Interesting ecperience on DHEA. Do you know what % of the stuff gets into your system when you take it orally???
 
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In all the research Ive read concerning transdermal delivery, Ive never heard about actives getting “sweated back out”. I guess it sounds possible, but at the same time, the more kinetic energy you have in the skin, the better the permeation of actives. The energy developed from heat and sweating would open up the pores and allow the ingredients to be actively carried into the skin and off to the blood steam by opening up the blood channels.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
In all the research Ive read concerning transdermal delivery, Ive never heard about actives getting “sweated back out”. I guess it sounds possible, but at the same time, the more kinetic energy you have in the skin, the better the permeation of actives. The energy developed from heat and sweating would open up the pores and allow the ingredients to be actively carried into the skin and off to the blood steam by opening up the blood channels.

-Pp
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You are one smart dude Eric.
 
I was writing from my JOURNAL for day 5 and my results. I received my order Thursday (which can be verified by the guys who send it) and other post where I stated I started the first evening I received it which was THURSDAY!

So MONDAY was day 5. I was quoting my journal entry.

Day 7...well it was actually the 8th day my results were as I posted.

You guys need to sharpen your reading comprehension.

chazk said:
Yesterday, 12:06 AM #75
BigRupe

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So far I haven't noticed much if anything. It has been 5 days now

Offline



then 18 hours later



Yesterday 06:05 PM
BigRupe WEEK ONE UPDATE:

I am a 46year old male. I haven't run an AAS cycle for over a year if not longer, and before that it had been several years since I ran a cycle. I was taking Proviron about 8 months or so ago.

18 hours .... he went to sleep and awoke a changed man after good shit and a starbucks coffee he felt great... oh and a few sprays of derma
Click to expand...
 
BigRupe said:
I was writing from my JOURNAL for day 5 and my results. I received my order Thursday (which can be verified by the guys who send it) and other post where I stated I started the first evening I received it which was THURSDAY!

So MONDAY was day 5. I was quoting my journal entry.

Day 7...well it was actually the 8th day my results were as I posted.

You guys need to sharpen your reading comprehension.
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good shit bro. :)
 
Just an FYI

I too notice that I feel the need for a nap mid day. My work schedule allows this and maybe because I get up so freaking early, but like someone else mentioned I too feel the need for a nap mid day.

Any ideas???
 
BigRupe said:
Just an FYI

I too notice that I feel the need for a nap mid day. My work schedule allows this and maybe because I get up so freaking early, but like someone else mentioned I too feel the need for a nap mid day.

Any ideas???
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like a dbol type nap lol.I get so tared when I use dbol
 
Week 2 Update

SENSE OF WELL BEING:

The sense of well being has continued but the initial hyper CNS has decreased some what. It's still there, but not as much.

SEX DRIVE:

Sex drive is through the roof and that's a good thing

WORK OUTS:

Recovery time has decreased and I am getting tremendous pumps and I have more motivation and energy to GO to the gym.

APPETITE:

Appetite has slacked off a bit. I am not ravenous as others have become. I actually think the elevated mood has helped me from eating when I'm stressed.

MENTAL FOCUS

I am still experiencing tremendous mental energy and I noticed my dreams seem to be more vivid. Very vivid and I sleep well at night.

THERMOGENIC EFFECT

The belly fat is just melting away, especially the abdominal fat and my face looks much leaner. It is an unexpected side efect. My guess is my age was causing this stubborn problem, but the higher test levels is helping me burn more calories and thus the very noticeable loss of belly fat and I have NOT changed my work-out routine one bit...nor my diet. I estimate one inch in pants size in a bit over 2 weeks. No joke!

OTHER OBSERVATIONS

I have been mixing it up a bit on where I apply it on my body because I read somewhere here about the different receptors. I have been putting it more towards upper shoulders and upper back and arms more so than chest. I aslo feel a slight sting for a brief moment in the back region.

SUMMARY

Overall I am pleased with my results. ESPECIALLY the very noticable loss of abdominal body fat. It is no mirage either. My face and belly are MUCH leaner.

For those keeping track week 2 ended this past THURSDAY. I just now had a chance to post.

I am also taking very hot showers and toweling dry about 95% and then applying while I am still hot from the shower. I use 4 pumps 2 with each hand.

Oh and I also have noticed an increase in vascularity in my forearms and shoulders.
 
cant wait to give this a try, i just picked up 3 bottles for me and a few friends, i am going to stack it with epistane for 4 weeks. Would start now, but i have a ligh insurance blood test comming up. Dont want anything to fuck with the results.
 
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