My current cycle

[PolfaJelfa]

Nice cycle...good luck...( and the dosages are no way over the top)

 

[BigAndy69]

Listen, I know what is takes to get big and ripped. However, my health is more important to me than packing on 25lbs in 4 weeks. Which is what you are claiming you have done within the past month. I am sure that 25lbs is going to help your sleep apnea. Have you thought about this???

Actually, it's more like 20lbs in 7 weeks.

And to answer your question, adding weight doesn't help my sleep apnea. Keep in mind that I was over 290lbs for a while and still going out and partying at the time. Not anymore, I've gotten everything under control. I've chosen to look my best this year before going back to a more sane size.

I've been plagued with personal problems as well as health problems the last 2-3 years, and I've been itching to see how freaky I can get.

That's why most of us use steroids anyway. Hardcore bodybuilding...seems like many are turning away from this and pointing there fingers at those who chose to pursue it.

Saying you only need 500mg of juice and I need 2000mg to see gains is hypocritical. We are all juicers. If you can achieve your goals at 500mg, good for you. It doesn't make you a better man.

Most of these guys who are using 200-300mg/weekly or whatever, shouldn't be using juice in the first place.

I knew a guy who grew on 100mg of Deca a week. He gained 15lbs on his cycle. Fact is, he shouldn't have been juicing in the first place.

 

[black sheep]

Actually, it's more like 20lbs in 7 weeks.

And to answer your question, adding weight doesn't help my sleep apnea. Keep in mind that I was over 290lbs for a while and still going out and partying at the time. Not anymore, I've gotten everything under control. I've chosen to look my best this year before going back to a more sane size.

I've been plagued with personal problems as well as health problems the last 2-3 years, and I've been itching to see how freaky I can get.

That's why most of us use steroids anyway. Hardcore bodybuilding...seems like many are turning away from this and pointing there fingers at those who chose to pursue it.

Saying you only need 500mg of juice and I need 2000mg to see gains is hypocritical. We are all juicers. If you can achieve your goals at 500mg, good for you. It doesn't make you a better man.

Most of these guys who are using 200-300mg/weekly or whatever, shouldn't be using juice in the first place.

I knew a guy who grew on 100mg of Deca a week. He gained 15lbs on his cycle. Fact is, he shouldn't have been juicing in the first place.

Nice cycle Andy! Great Results too.

You sold me on NPP and I picked some up. I pm'ed you my cycle plan, as I don't want to Hijack your thread.

How were the sides from the Bold. Prop?

 

[BigAndy69]

Hey bro, I didn't receive your pm nad I did not get an email.

Bold prop is not for beginners, that's all I can say. Very painful but if you can handle it it is amazing. I don't know why it is so strong. I did get some flu like symptoms but they subsided. If you want to post your cycle plan here, go ahead.

 

[mr.cuts]

Actually, it's more like 20lbs in 7 weeks.

And to answer your question, adding weight doesn't help my sleep apnea. Keep in mind that I was over 290lbs for a while and still going out and partying at the time. Not anymore, I've gotten everything under control. I've chosen to look my best this year before going back to a more sane size.

I've been plagued with personal problems as well as health problems the last 2-3 years, and I've been itching to see how freaky I can get.

That's why most of us use steroids anyway. Hardcore bodybuilding...seems like many are turning away from this and pointing there fingers at those who chose to pursue it.

Saying you only need 500mg of juice and I need 2000mg to see gains is hypocritical. We are all juicers. If you can achieve your goals at 500mg, good for you. It doesn't make you a better man.

Most of these guys who are using 200-300mg/weekly or whatever, shouldn't be using juice in the first place.

I knew a guy who grew on 100mg of Deca a week. He gained 15lbs on his cycle. Fact is, he shouldn't have been juicing in the first place.

Saying guys that use 200-300mg per week shouldn't even be juicing makes absolutely no sense. If I can make steady gains on 250mg of test per week why should I increase that dose??? It seems like you have a attitude that says if you are not going to juice with heavy doses then don't bother at all. Keep in mind that 250mg of test per week is significantly higher than what anyone can produce naturally. I am 26 years old and am in no rush to pack on the mass. I am pretty happy with the 220lbs that I currently carry, which I achieved through hard training, proper diet, and low doses of gear.

Bodybuilding should be approached in the terms of a marathon rather than an all out sprint. It's almost always the guys who rely on gear as the focal point compared to diet and training, and their gear use almost always consists of high doses. These guys usually burn out. They are the ones that get into rec drugs, etc. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[gimp]

the doses seem okay to me, not crazy at all. I tend to use simple cycles, deca and test for size...winny and tren to diet. it seems the further I go in training the less sauce I need .

 

[BigAndy69]

Saying guys that use 200-300mg per week shouldn't even be juicing makes absolutely no sense. If I can make steady gains on 250mg of test per week why should I increase that dose??? It seems like you have a attitude that says if you are not going to juice with heavy doses then don't bother at all. Keep in mind that 250mg of test per week is significantly higher than what anyone can produce naturally. I am 26 years old and am in no rush to pack on the mass. I am pretty happy with the 220lbs that I currently carry, which I achieved through hard training, proper diet, and low doses of gear.

Bodybuilding should be approached in the terms of a marathon rather than an all out sprint. It's almost always the guys who rely on gear as the focal point compared to diet and training, and their gear use almost always consists of high doses. These guys usually burn out. They are the ones that get into rec drugs, etc. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day.

The fact is steroids are illegal to use in many countries and especially the US.

If you live in the US and use steroids you are taking a big risk, it can end up costing you everything you have. Why take a chance if you are trying to add a few lbs of muscle with the help of 200-300mg of AS weekly.

It's not worth it. Most of us use steroids to achieve a look that we cannot achieve naturally. If you are just looking for a slight edge, the type of edge 200-300mg can give you, then you are better off staying natural instead of breaking the law and upsetting your natural hormone levels.

 

[mr.cuts]

The fact is steroids are illegal to use in many countries and especially the US.

If you live in the US and use steroids you are taking a big risk, it can end up costing you everything you have. Why take a chance if you are trying to add a few lbs of muscle with the help of 200-300mg of AS weekly.

It's not worth it. Most of us use steroids to achieve a look that we cannot achieve naturally. If you are just looking for a slight edge, the type of edge 200-300mg can give you, then you are better off staying natural instead of breaking the law and upsetting your natural hormone levels.

No offense, but that is a very weak argument you are proposing.

 

[The_Chemist]

Sounds good....hope to see some new pics at the end. I think the last ones we saw were the Pop Tart/car wash pics. LOL

I keep hearing about Bold Prop being structurally the same as bee venom, and thats why it hurts. Any truth to this, or is this just a stupid rumor thats being regurgitated around here???

 

[BigAndy69]

Sounds good....hope to see some new pics at the end. I think the last ones we saw were the Pop Tart/car wash pics. LOL

I keep hearing about Bold Prop being structurally the same as bee venom, and thats why it hurts. Any truth to this, or is this just a stupid rumor thats being regurgitated around here???

I don't know about the bee venom comparaison but I can tell you it hurts more than any prop I've ever used. Nathan(board member here) used the Bold prop and he said it was painful but not as painful as QV prop.