My best friend needs a lil something..........

[tren test nut]

Here is the deal. I generally only use real stuff and some pro-steroids. Im not very well versed in pro-hormones. Now my best friend is gonna start going to the gym with me real soon. I need a recommendation for something that wont fuck with his borderline high BP. My mission is to get it down for him, but also adding a few things. I got the weight reduction supplements he needs. He doesnt want to go full bore like me yet.......YET! (I bet he changes his tune real quick though) Are any of these supps ok to use with his issues? Like will sarms s4 or osta fuck with him? How bout HCGenerate and phytoserms 347? Im looking to boost his test count, add some aggression but do it sorta naturally as possible. I dont want to see him hit the ground with a grabber. He really wants to try pro-hormones, i keep telling him to lose the weight first then we'll see how he's doing BP wise. He works out so hes not new to it, but does zero cardio. He's 6'2" and about 285lbs. all in his gut and neck/face. He's got the biggest fucking jacked calves I ever seen on a non pro-bodybuilder. Even pros would love them. Its genetic on him thats for sure. He cant even slide his calves into most jeans cause of it. LOL!!!
Open to all suggestions. Im not use to helping another person out. So whats good for me isn't always good or recommended for everyone.

 

[Judo Tom]

we would need his full stats to give good advice but sounds like he needs diet advice not pro hormone advice.

 

[Arabian]

Tren Test Nut , if your goal for your friend is to lose body fat, then his first step he must tackle is his DIET. He has to do double time on running or cardio, if he ever expects to lose his gut, then everything else including his bloated face will reduce and fall into place as well. Genetics play a major role in body building however one must learn how to train,diet and cycle. Remember this, having a nice cut body or a huge body building physic consist of 60% DIET 45% TRAINING 5% Steroids. NO supplement or cycle will achieve his desired goals until he reduces his body fat and dials in his training. Best of luck to you and Kudos to you for assisting your friend. If I were you, I would have him sign up here at ELITE FITNESS and learn and read our forums on diet and training, so he can achieve the knowledge he needs to know himself, and have your experience for guidance. Best of luck to you. Keep us posted on his SUCCESS!!!

 

[gstacker]

diet 60% + training 45% + gear 5% = 110%!

I love it! Untill your giving it 105% already leave out the gear! And pro hormones imo is worse than injecting testosterone.... "Leagal" doesnt mean its safe... Well it is safe as far as johny is concerned but we all know orals are harder.

 

[RADAR]

The best advice i can offer i get him to register here at Elitefitness. Because he needs not only motivation but a game plan.

 

[Arabian]

The best advice i can offer i get him to register here at Elitefitness. Because he needs not only motivation but a game plan.

^^^^^This

 

[Liquid 2009]

The best advice i can offer i get him to register here at Elitefitness. Because he needs not only motivation but a game plan.

I agree. Also have him check out NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.NET

 

[Nelson Montana]

ALl good advice, but if I had to come up with something that was 100% natural and as close to a cycle as possible, I'd say GEAR, BIG BLAST, UNLEASHED and BRIDGE.

Seriously, if you can't get bad ass results from that stack, you just ain't training.

 

[Stryker1992]

Here is the deal. I generally only use real stuff and some pro-steroids. Im not very well versed in pro-hormones. Now my best friend is gonna start going to the gym with me real soon. I need a recommendation for something that wont fuck with his borderline high BP. My mission is to get it down for him, but also adding a few things. I got the weight reduction supplements he needs. He doesnt want to go full bore like me yet.......YET! (I bet he changes his tune real quick though) Are any of these supps ok to use with his issues? Like will sarms s4 or osta fuck with him? How bout HCGenerate and phytoserms 347? Im looking to boost his test count, add some aggression but do it sorta naturally as possible. I dont want to see him hit the ground with a grabber. He really wants to try pro-hormones, i keep telling him to lose the weight first then we'll see how he's doing BP wise. He works out so hes not new to it, but does zero cardio. He's 6'2" and about 285lbs. all in his gut and neck/face. He's got the biggest fucking jacked calves I ever seen on a non pro-bodybuilder. Even pros would love them. Its genetic on him thats for sure. He cant even slide his calves into most jeans cause of it. LOL!!!
Open to all suggestions. Im not use to helping another person out. So whats good for me isn't always good or recommended for everyone.

I cannot get past the "he is going to start going to the gym..."

Has he been training? If not that is where he needs to START....never mind supplements.

 

[RADAR]

I cannot get past the "he is going to start going to the gym..."

Has he been training? If not that is where he needs to START....never mind supplements.

I agree ,you have to take that first step down the road to success.I did and never looked back!

 

[Liquid 2009]

here is the deal. I generally only use real stuff and some pro-steroids. Im not very well versed in pro-hormones. Now my best friend is gonna start going to the gym with me real soon. I need a recommendation for something that wont fuck with his borderline high bp. My mission is to get it down for him, but also adding a few things. I got the weight reduction supplements he needs. He doesnt want to go full bore like me yet.......yet! :d (i bet he changes his tune real quick though) are any of these supps ok to use with his issues? Like will sarms s4 or osta fuck with him? How bout hcgenerate and phytoserms 347? Im looking to boost his test count, add some aggression but do it sorta naturally as possible. I dont want to see him hit the ground with a grabber. He really wants to try pro-hormones, i keep telling him to lose the weight first then we'll see how he's doing bp wise. He works out so hes not new to it, but does zero cardio. He's 6'2" and about 285lbs. All in his gut and neck/face. He's got the biggest fucking jacked calves i ever seen on a non pro-bodybuilder. Even pros would love them. Its genetic on him thats for sure. He cant even slide his calves into most jeans cause of it. Lol!!!
Open to all suggestions. Im not use to helping another person out. So whats good for me isn't always good or recommended for everyone.

i cannot get past the "he is going to start going to the gym..."

has he been training? If not that is where he needs to start....never mind supplements.

lol

 

[tren test nut]

Sorry guys was out for the weekend. Yeah he trains but cuts his cardio out most times. I myself have been lifting since I was 16. Im 35 now and have been dead serious for just a nick under 20 years. Been on most everything at one point or another. I teach him a lot but was just wondering about an edge without the compromise. His main issue is dedication. He a luke warm lifter and tends to let business get in the way of his life including not just his health but his wife and family. Trying to motivate him is a serious job. LOL! But its working.
Nelson, I completely want to thank you for your recommendations here. As far as him joining here.....forget it. Its all working so far great. He just looks at me and gets discouraged. I keep trying to tell him we all are different. There are not many bodybuilder physiques in the world. Ive been doing it for a good amount of time. We all have our ups and downs. Hes a real highstrung kinda person and im the opposite. I balance him out and it is really helping his wife and kids. I drive him! Much of his problems come from stress. He wont see a pshyc. Tried that already. So I'm doing the best I can for him. Seems to be working. Just need some ammo as nelson recommended naturally so when that door tries to close on him he can kick it open and keep rolling. As a bodybuilder myself(non-competetive) sometimes I feel like I may overlook the obvious. Like I said before. Im so use to worrying just about myself.........
Thanks guys!!!!

 

[tren test nut]

Yeah the start going to the gym comment was meaning he was gonna start going with me vs. by himself or another old friend who is a total fuckin stroke!