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Morning training on an empty stomach.

boxerjake said:
Cardio is exactly that .. for cardio health , i'd rely more on diet and increasing muscle mass to loose weight then cardio

Eat clean .. eat right and all you'll have to do cardio for is cardio health not to try sweat off a dozen pounds

I 100% agree with this....I lost a good amount of weight and went down from a size 14 to a size 3 by just doing weights and eating clean. I never did cardio.
Every person is different on how we lose/gain and maintain weight, but really we are all the same in that we need fuel to function right.
Eating clean before and after a work out just makes sense.
 
I am an endomorph as well, I can slap on slabs of new muscle quite easily but it takes exhausting cardio and extensive dieting with all the supp's to make my waistline move inwards. (6"4 250 36"jean waist), any tips rizz or swolk?
 
dr_skier said:
I am an endomorph as well, I can slap on slabs of new muscle quite easily but it takes exhausting cardio and extensive dieting with all the supp's to make my waistline move inwards. (6"4 250 36"jean waist), any tips rizz or swolk?

man this is me to a tee. I am will bump this post in hopes of getting more info.
 
Haven't read the whole thread so hope I'm not beating a dead horse . . .

From what I understand, it's not a good idea to lift on a totally empty stomach, first thing in the AM, due to low blood glucose levels and other scientific crap. Basically, it's so easy to pull out of the fasted state--drink a glass or two of milk or take 10-20 g. of whey + a piece of fruit/slice of toast--that there's no good reason not to.
 
I have a slightly different question.... for lack of a better way of putting this, is it "bad" to do cardio or even low-intensity (fat-burning) aerobic training *after* you're done lifting, say for 30-40 minutes?

I typically do cardio on my days off.... but have been putting in some extra time on the bike / eliptical after my workouts lately.... I don't want to risk compromising the results of my weight-training by doing cardio afterwards?
 
perhaps im the only one but i have been lifting on an empty stomach (well somewhat empty, see below) and seeing great results as i am cutting....

strength is fine 2 weeks ago deadlifts 405 for 2 sets of 8, no straps no wraps no belt no shoes, could have done more but i progressively add weight each week....

started cutting at 220 around november and today am sitting at 200 and stronger, cant explain that one .........and im on NO gear

as soon as i wake i take in 10grams glutamine then prepare 1 cup green tea, drink it wait 5 mins after that and take in amplify 02 (2 scoops) along with extra l-arginine and thats it...then i proceed to the gym....

i also do cardio directly after lifting for 30mins and then later in the day as well...but i only weight train 3 days a week......


other supps i use include
glucorell (first 3 meals which contain carbs)
pure cee (post workout)
isopure protein (glass bottles) (1 bottle post workout)
vit c
multi vit


well thats it again perhaps im the only one but its working great thus far and i am as strong as when i weighed more along with looking ALOT better and no im not new to weights ive been doing this for about 7 years...

peace
 
i never wat before training in the morn. it's too fucking much for me to get up @ 5am, eat, wait around 30 mins,(gyms only 2 miles up the road) then work out, I've seen good results, maybe coule have seen better but to eat that early is just too much for me. rarely do i peter out in the middle of the workout too. i do however get in a pwo within 30 mins of training though.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I have a slightly different question.... for lack of a better way of putting this, is it "bad" to do cardio or even low-intensity (fat-burning) aerobic training *after* you're done lifting, say for 30-40 minutes?

I typically do cardio on my days off.... but have been putting in some extra time on the bike / eliptical after my workouts lately.... I don't want to risk compromising the results of my weight-training by doing cardio afterwards?


No, youre not compromising your results if you do cardio after weight training..... That is another key time to do cardio, cause your body is in fat burning mode again..... It gets this way cause you just trained for over 20mins, and the body realizes it needs to dip into its' fat stores to fuel the workout..... So, doing light cardio after hitting the weights continues the fat burning...... Now there are other variables here..... 1st is body type like always..... If your Ecto, your body is more prone to use muscle as energy.... If youre Endo, your body is more prone to burn fat as energy.... 2nd is AAS..... If youre on a cycle, your body will be less catabolic by blocking Cortisol, so cardio after weight training will be more likely to burn fat..... 3rd is personal training goals..... If your main goal is to lose fat, then doing cardio is worth the lil muscle you might burn to burn even more fat.... After the cardio, drink your post workout drink ASAP.....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
No, youre not compromising your results if you do cardio after weight training..... That is another key time to do cardio, cause your body is in fat burning mode again..... It gets this way cause you just trained for over 20mins, and the body realizes it needs to dip into its' fat stores to fuel the workout..... So, doing light cardio after hitting the weights continues the fat burning...... Now there are other variables here..... 1st is body type like always..... If your Ecto, your body is more prone to use muscle as energy.... If youre Endo, your body is more prone to burn fat as energy.... 2nd is AAS..... If youre on a cycle, your body will be less catabolic by blocking Cortisol, so cardio after weight training will be more likely to burn fat..... 3rd is personal training goals..... If your main goal is to lose fat, then doing cardio is worth the lil muscle you might burn to burn even more fat.... After the cardio, drink your post workout drink ASAP.....

rizz


bro, K to you for this post. ive always wondered if i was doing myself a disservice doing cardio right after i lift, but i dont have any other time to do it. im glad to hear its not going to effect the work i put in before i hop on the treadmill.
 
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