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More Proof That Fonz Is a Lying Scumbag!

Nelson Montana

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AND ANYBODY WHO LISTENS TO HIM IS A FUCKING MORON.

Fonz's latest diatribe was in response to a thread that asks about aiding the thyroid. Naturally someone mentioned that ZIP from Protein Factory is designed for that very purpose, so naturally, Fonz in his childish vindictive manner had to go on and say that ZIP sucks. But the fool can't even get his facts straight.

First of all, he claims ZIP contains gugglesterones which it DOES NOT, with good reason! (Go to the www.proteinfactory.com site if you want to know why)

Then he tries to be provocative by saying that HE knows what's best but wont say what it is. Now there are only two reasons for him to say this;

One: He has nothing and is just trying to sound like a big shot.

Or two: He has something to sell and is trying to generate intrique and interest.


On top of it all, after passing along misinformation , deliberately trying to hurt protein Factory's business, he says he's not going to give any more information (except the damning information) because people will pick on him and start a flame war.

The funny thing is, one guy wrote in telling what he used to help his thyroid and all the ingredients are found in ZIP! Fonz of course was unaware of that. He just had to spew more venom.

And you know what the most amazing part is? People believe him! How fucking stupid can you be? No offense OMEGA, I have no problem with you, but your comments are embarassing yourself. You have been chumped -- as have many others on this board. At least I admit my affiliations. Fonz lies and deliberately tries to damage the credibility of others (because he nothing to lose and way too much time on his hands) under the pretense that he's so noble and people get in line to suck up his line of shit.

Fonz lost his mod status for proving to be deceitful and unscrupulous. He has been caught in deceptions time and time again. His so called conclusions from "personal experiments" have been proven to be lifted word for word from other sources. Still, weak minded individuals want to believe he's knowledgable so they can have someone to follow. ("Tell me again Fonz how 6 months of Fina can actually improve liver values")


I'd like to make an outward plea to George Spellwin to have this guy banned once and for all. I wonder if the people at Protein Factory -who help finance this site with their sponsorship -- would feel about this esteemed member sabotaging their business and reputation with lies simply because he has a vendetta against me because I've exposed him as a cheat and a fraud.


Enough already.
 
I take it you dont like Fonz. Funny thing is I remember when all this started way back when you were on your anti-clomid crusade.
 
fonz has its moments...

but banning him will not happen so save your energy for some'n more productive.
 
admit it Nelson....you cut a deal with EF to get fonz demodded...

(rofl!! ;) )

also, someone tell me what a gugglesterone is, im pissing my pants looking at this word ;)
 
guggulsterone are supposed to lower bad chlesterol , raise good cholesterol, and may aid in t3 /t4 function. I would like to know if it actually works. If it only changed your oil and rotated your tires , it would be the perfect supp.
 
Vince Gironda thought things like the ones used in zip would help aid the thyroid. Vince was preaching that back in the 50's and 60's. I'll take his word over Fonz.
 
Nelson: Is it okay to talk about Fonz on your board? Someone could post info about his lies w/ links to threads on various boards. A lot of people here would stop believing him if they saw this.
 
GoodDoer756 said:
Nelson: Is it okay to talk about Fonz on your board? Someone could post info about his lies w/ links to threads on various boards. A lot of people here would stop believing him if they saw this.


I welcome it -- not because he's been such a prick to me, but because I think he's a seriously dangerous person, unstable and hostile. The fact that some people think of him as a leader is frightening. I only wish George would stp seeing him as a frisky kid and realize what a detrement to the board he really is.
 
it's one thing to be wrong about something and quite another to lie. i can recall numerous threads in which people were corrected without being called a liar. this personal attack shit b/w you two is meaningless unless you're going to meet and decide it face to face, which i would lay down green money to see :)
 
I think Nelson might have a crush on Fonz. He seems rather obsessed with the guy.
 
Juice Authority said:
I think Nelson might have a crush on Fonz. He seems rather obsessed with the guy.

now you got that from my post didnt you, fonz posts about me everyday so I just figured he was a gay dude with a thing for bodybuilders...

I dont know that fonz will ever be banned, he recently took to making personal threats against me, saying he had personal info on me.....if thats not ban worthy than I'm not sure what is
 
needsize, that's scary stuff bro. Back when Loud_Swain was dogging me on here, one of his buddies was sending me e-mails (and he acknowledged that he was in contact with the guy) telling me he goes to my gym and know all about me, but refused to reveal his own identity. Internet stalking of other members should be immediate grounds for banning if it can be proved. When I posted my discomfort over the matter in an onen forum, I was actually rediculed by a mod. Fortunately it stopped on its own, and LS left the board.
 
Thats just sick that people would make threats like that. Anyone who makes a personal threat, or trys to tell another member that they have 'personal info' about them should be banned from the boards for life.
 
needsize said:
now you got that from my post didnt you, fonz posts about me everyday so I just figured he was a gay dude with a thing for bodybuilders...

I dont know that fonz will ever be banned, he recently took to making personal threats against me, saying he had personal info on me.....if thats not ban worthy than I'm not sure what is


Actually I did. I liked it so now I'm going to use it and of course pass it off as my own witty response. I do think Nelson is gay though. He has all characteristics of a passive aggressive homo. I wouldn't doubt it if he's jacked off the Fonz's pics before!
 
Nelson, Needsize and crew are just comic relief for me now. They are so beyond reality they are to be pitied.

And Nelson.........don't tempt. I could reduce each of your pathetic supplements to the consistentcy of silly putty, but then again....who sponsors EF?

Protein...factory..and its their product line "helped(lol)" design by you.

My comments would destroy PF's supplements put it that way.

And I would do it with every scientific means at my disposal gladly.

But, then Ef would get slammed, and thats not my intention....my intention is to prove what farce you are. And when MY E-BOOK comes out, everyone is going to laugh at just how stupid yours is. Its 50 years behind the times. Thats how pathetic is is.

And Needsize....go back to the training board...you have ZERO KNOWELDGE ON THE SCIENCE OF SUPPLEMENTS AND AAS PHARMACOLOGY. ZERO. Now scram.

Damn, I hate taking out the garbage.
 
Fonz said:
Nelson, Needsize and crew are just comic relief for me now. They are so beyond reality they are to be pitied.

And Nelson.........don't tempt. I could reduce each of your pathetic supplements to the consistentcy of silly putty, but then again....who sponsors EF?

Protein...factory..and its their product line "helped(lol)" design by you.

My comments would destroy PF's supplements put it that way.

And I would do it with every scientific means at my disposal gladly.

But, then Ef would get slammed, and thats not my intention....my intention is to prove what farce you are. And when MY E-BOOK comes out, everyone is going to laugh at just how stupid yours is. Its 50 years behind the times. Thats how pathetic is is.

And Needsize....go back to the training board...you have ZERO KNOWELDGE ON THE SCIENCE OF SUPPLEMENTS AND AAS PHARMACOLOGY. ZERO. Now scram.

Damn, I hate taking out the garbage.




Wow, what an idiot.
 
I just about pissed myself when i read this! lol

Juice Authority said:
Actually I did. I liked it so now I'm going to use it and of course pass it off as my own witty response. I do think Nelson is gay though. He has all characteristics of a passive aggressive homo. I wouldn't doubt it if he's jacked off the Fonz's pics before!
 
fonz, you are so sad I can't help but love reading your posts. You have lied about sooo many things, ie playing pro football, being in the SAS, and so many more. yet when confronted you just ignore it. But then you respond with sad little threats, hell, in my case you threatened me to get alltraps to stop bothering you...thats the kind of behaviour most people grow out of once they are too old to play in the sandbox.

If you are such a knowlegeable guru, then what do you have to show for it? Your physique is sad, i have pics where I looked far better while I was still natural, but you have been juicing for over 3 years to achieve your sad little aids patient look??? I have all the knowlege I need to accomplish my goals, but unlike you I dont need to cut and paste studies to try and make myself look smarter than I actually am. I have easily helped as many people on elite as you have, but the difference is that I do it for love of the sport, not so I can be an internet hero like you.

So now you are a pissed off little man because your not so carefully crafted internet persona has been pulled into the light of day, where everyone can see every nuance of how fake you are. Guess what, you are not a mod anymore, so you cant bully anyone around. You made personal threats against me, just because you dont like what I have to say about you. I'm willing to bet that if I persued that line with admin, your ass would have been banned as well as demodded, but I dont see the point. I've never said that you havent helped people on elite, but your napoleonic complex far overshadows anything positive that you have done

So are you now going to live up to your pathetic pre-adolescent nature, and follow through with the personal threats you made against me? You really should, I mean really, what kind of nerve do I have speaking my mind about you on an internet forum. Not only should you follow through with the threat, but maybe you should have someone eliminate my wife and newborn son as well, just to insure my future silence....
 
needsize said:
fonz, you are so sad I can't help but love reading your posts. You have lied about sooo many things, ie playing pro football, being in the SAS, and so many more. yet when confronted you just ignore it. But then you respond with sad little threats, hell, in my case you threatened me to get alltraps to stop bothering you...thats the kind of behaviour most people grow out of once they are too old to play in the sandbox.

If you are such a knowlegeable guru, then what do you have to show for it? Your physique is sad, i have pics where I looked far better while I was still natural, but you have been juicing for over 3 years to achieve your sad little aids patient look??? I have all the knowlege I need to accomplish my goals, but unlike you I dont need to cut and paste studies to try and make myself look smarter than I actually am. I have easily helped as many people on elite as you have, but the difference is that I do it for love of the sport, not so I can be an internet hero like you.

So now you are a pissed off little man because your not so carefully crafted internet persona has been pulled into the light of day, where everyone can see every nuance of how fake you are. Guess what, you are not a mod anymore, so you cant bully anyone around. You made personal threats against me, just because you dont like what I have to say about you. I'm willing to bet that if I persued that line with admin, your ass would have been banned as well as demodded, but I dont see the point. I've never said that you havent helped people on elite, but your napoleonic complex far overshadows anything positive that you have done

So are you now going to live up to your pathetic pre-adolescent nature, and follow through with the personal threats you made against me? You really should, I mean really, what kind of nerve do I have speaking my mind about you on an internet forum. Not only should you follow through with the threat, but maybe you should have someone eliminate my wife and newborn son as well, just to insure my future silence....

Damn
 
there should be a popcorn smiley on this board, honestly ;)

im going to be honest and say i have no problem with fonz. its the guy who keeps letting him out of his cage, or puts the computer close enough to the bars that i have a problem with...
 
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=111273&highlight=Fonz

http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Fo...2889&perpage=15&highlight=bridge&pagenumber=1

Threads that have Fonz saying "mathematical" and "scientific" are always hilarious. I laughed the most at his newest glucose study (the one that was going to revolutionize the science of supplementation!). The few coherent words that come out of Fonz's mouth are ripped from other sources, just like Nelson said.

Someone should also post a link to the infamous International male thread. That was funny.
 
Juice Authority said:
Actually I did. I liked it so now I'm going to use it and of course pass it off as my own witty response. QUOTE]

I really should have identified fonz's sexual orientation earlier as the reason for his anger...I've been getting hit on by gay dudes my whole life, I should have recognized it. Most are cool though when I explain that I dont go that way, never quite seen any react with fonz's anger and resentment
 
Fonz is a tool...plain and simple. I don't have a personal problem with him, I'm being objective as possible. But he is out there...WAY out there.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
Fonz is a tool...plain and simple. I don't have a personal problem with him, I'm being objective as possible. But he is out there...WAY out there.

there was a time when even I have to admit he contributed to the board, but whatever disorder he has must be degenerative as he seems to get worse all the time
 
GoodDoer756 said:
Last one, read the last post (Fonz's):
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75232&page=3&pp=20&highlight=bio-chemistry

Now which degree is it? Apparently not nuclear physics.

In reality he doesn't have a degree, atleast not in science. That much is certain.

I'd like to hear what the Fonz backers have to say after readng these. There's a lot more on different boards that could be posted here.

And let's not forget when Fonz said that r-ALA will cure cancer. That was my favorite! And would you believe, people came on and said things like "Gee, Fonz, I didn't know that. THANKS!"

Bulldog is right. Fonz just is a tool and not worthy of the attention he so desperately craves. But this shitbag has been out to discredit me and hurt my business from day one so the gloves are off. He has also caused George thousands of dollars in revenue. (So why is he still around?)

Hey, this is kind of like the McCarthy hearings! To those who dont know, McCarthy started out as a champion of the people back in the 50's for his anti-communist crusade. But the more he spoke, the more the public realized he was just an angry paranoid asshole and he had to retire in shame. Before leaving, he ranted that he'd be back, but he just became known as a national disgrace. I guess it's a certain sick mentality that makes up a personality like that. What troubles me most is when people don't recognize it.
 
No flames meant, but since Fonz got demodded it's like watching a prison movie where the cop gets thrown in prison with all of the inmates he put there. :D
 
Nelson Montana said:
(So why is he still around?)
In part because some guy has been spreading bullshit, saying you paid us to take away Fonz's mod status. I want to rub that guy's nose in it. I want everyone to smell that it's crap while I rub his nose in it.

So you could say "Fonz is still around because Nelson doesn't want him here."

Can you hear me now? Good!
 
needsize said:
fonz, you are so sad I can't help but love reading your posts. You have lied about sooo many things, ie playing pro football, being in the SAS, and so many more. yet when confronted you just ignore it. But then you respond with sad little threats, hell, in my case you threatened me to get alltraps to stop bothering you...thats the kind of behaviour most people grow out of once they are too old to play in the sandbox.

If you are such a knowlegeable guru, then what do you have to show for it? Your physique is sad, i have pics where I looked far better while I was still natural, but you have been juicing for over 3 years to achieve your sad little aids patient look??? I have all the knowlege I need to accomplish my goals, but unlike you I dont need to cut and paste studies to try and make myself look smarter than I actually am. I have easily helped as many people on elite as you have, but the difference is that I do it for love of the sport, not so I can be an internet hero like you.

So now you are a pissed off little man because your not so carefully crafted internet persona has been pulled into the light of day, where everyone can see every nuance of how fake you are. Guess what, you are not a mod anymore, so you cant bully anyone around. You made personal threats against me, just because you dont like what I have to say about you. I'm willing to bet that if I persued that line with admin, your ass would have been banned as well as demodded, but I dont see the point. I've never said that you havent helped people on elite, but your napoleonic complex far overshadows anything positive that you have done

So are you now going to live up to your pathetic pre-adolescent nature, and follow through with the personal threats you made against me? You really should, I mean really, what kind of nerve do I have speaking my mind about you on an internet forum. Not only should you follow through with the threat, but maybe you should have someone eliminate my wife and newborn son as well, just to insure my future silence....

*Yawn*

Is that all you got?

And here I was waiting for some an actual verbal exchange.

What a dissapointment.

I play soccer, and in every single athletic endeavour except strength, I would crush like the sad little white supremacist you are. I'm faster, can jump higher, have greater endurance, can accelerate faster...and I could go on and on.

Atheltic ability is FAR HARDER to achieve than just simply increasing your muscle size. MUCH HARDER. Look at you...you haven't had a blood test in years...I really wonder how screwed up your organs are. Me on the other hand get checked every 8 weeks, and I really laugh when people think I'm crazy for running this or that for long periods. Health is my #1 concern, your's is obviously not. If for any reason, one health marker was out of place...I would stop immediately.

This is what is come down to here at EF: Talk, talk, talk.

I can out-think, and out-smart any of you people with just a couple of neurons. And also funny how its always the same people bashing me...and then 4 posts? LOL......damn this is just downright laughable. What a bunch of panises you trashology people are. USE YOUR OWN SN's...

EVER HEARD OF IDEAS OR DON'T ANY OF YOU CLOWN'S KNOW HOW TO USE TWO BRAIN CELLS SIMULTANEOUSLY?

Nelson is just running scared for his life now, because he fully well knows my knowledge on every single subject matter related to fitness surpasses his by about a BILLION to one.

When the book comes out, Nelson will go the way of the ancient greeks. Crumble into nothingness.

And Bulldog, proteinfiend....where's the pics?

Oh...thats what I thought...still bulking right....lol

What a joke.
 
mt said:
It seems like this board is where all the action is now.


Yep, that goes hand in hand with Nelson. You may love the man, or hate him, but either way you've got to admit, its never dull on a thread he posts on.
 
digger said:
In part because some guy has been spreading bullshit, saying you paid us to take away Fonz's mod status. I want to rub that guy's nose in it. I want everyone to smell that it's crap while I rub his nose in it.

So you could say "Fonz is still around because Nelson doesn't want him here."

Can you hear me now? Good!

Wasn't Fonz's mod status taken away before I started re-posting?

Hey, isn't it funny that Fonz actually thinks he's impressing people by talking about the things he's GOING to do yeah, and wait until I get rich, and wait until I win a Pulitzer, and an Oscar and a Grammy and the heavyweight champioship of the world and I'll marry Britney Spears.

Poor guy doesn't even know what a jerk-off loser he is.

Here's your hero folks. Come and get him.
 
fonz, I've been posting about my blood tests for over a year now, I get them regularily every 2 months, you spend so much time trying to pick apart what I write I thought you would have noticed that.
Havent you noticed no one is buying your shit anymore. You are now the butt of almost every joke on elite, as well as other boards. No one cares about any of the things you claim to do or have done, because simply you are full of shit and cannot provide any proof. But on the other hand, i can provide proof and have offered it to you many times already, you just choose to ignore those posts. I was a nationally ranked sprinter when I was a teenager, had scholarship offers from several major universities for football before I got hurt, and can post a copy of my honours degree any time you would like
But the funniest thing you have posted is calling me a white supremist, where on earth did you get that from big man? All of my aunts married black, so there are actually more black people(or half black) in my family then white....So I think my family would be just as surprised as I am to know I am a white supremist.....
Bottom line is that you are all talk, and even your supporters realize this now and laugh at you just as much as I do. Christ fonz, you made personal threats against me to get someone else to stop bugging you.
My profession is working in a treatment centre with emotionally traumatized children, so I am very well educated on disorders of the mind; and fonz, I could write a paper on you. I have no interest in verbally sparring with you, you see, I have a wife, a baby, a house, a career, and a firm grip on reality, all of which are things you do not have nor could understand, especially the last one!
So go away fonz, your 15 minutes of fame is gone now, and the only people who care to see you post are either the ones making fun of you, which is the vast majority, or kids that are new to the board that are impressed by the fact that you type all your posts with a thesaurus next to you. So are you going to make some more personal threats, are you gonna meet me in the sandbox at 3pm after school, are you going to use personal info against me, or are you just going to get me, and my little dog too????
 
LOL. Fonz owned by Needsize (once again). As usual still no comments on the SAS, his degree(s) etc. I think Citruscide said it best on Ology:
"What I don't get is why Fonz would need to make up these sort of stories? Simply posting up the information he does and helping others out would make him a valuable asset to the bodybuilding community. There is no need to have a wide assortment of degrees to back up your statements, if your statements are well researched and founded in fact."
I agree. The lies are why I have ZERO respect for Fonz. The guy is a joke mentally and physically.

Seriously, I think he'll disappear soon , re-emerge with a new handle and start again with new lies.

Nelson: Any chance of you making this a sticky for a while?
 
GoodDoer756 said:
LOL. Fonz owned by Needsize (once again). As usual still no comments on the SAS, his degree(s) etc. I think Citruscide said it best on Ology:
"What I don't get is why Fonz would need to make up these sort of stories? Simply posting up the information he does and helping others out would make him a valuable asset to the bodybuilding community. There is no need to have a wide assortment of degrees to back up your statements, if your statements are well researched and founded in fact."
I agree. The lies are why I have ZERO respect for Fonz. The guy is a joke mentally and physically.

Seriously, I think he'll disappear soon , re-emerge with a new handle and start again with new lies.

Nelson: Any chance of you making this a sticky for a while?

True. But C-Diddy thought that Fonz had it together because he was an idiot too. The whole clan that left EF were a bunch of jokers. Fonz stayed on and now everyone knows he never really was an asset, nor did he deal with facts. (Then again, neither did C-Diddy - another lying prick) The only difference is, Fonz gave out more advice -- all bad, unless it was cut and pasted from a reputable source, wherin he'd quickly claim it as his own. I hate thieves and I hate phoneys, and he's both.


I can't make anything a sticky. If people want to continue contributing to it, it'll be there for a while.
 
And Bulldog, proteinfiend....where's the pics?

i wasnt bashing you bro... i just think its funny... especially the part about the extra ears... and the photoshopped picture of your head on needsize's body... lol!
 
boy how do you go about finding a thread from 2001? that is unbelievable. lying never works in the long run.
 
I don't know about the stories (honestly I don't give a ****) but I got to say, Fonz was always very helpful in promptly answering questions, especially over the pms. And he did help me a lot. I'm suprised that not a single other soul can acknowledge that..
And it's funny how you guys are ALL bashing on him now, because yesterday ya all were praising about how much he knew his shit, bla bla bla... I guess like Nelson said "if someone presents themself as a leader -- people will follow"... I totally agree and it still applies!! Well guess what, the sheeps of yesterday are still sheeps!!! They are just following another shepherd.
 
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JT Iron said:
Fonz is also a wizard, he's a former Senator, and he can fly. He can also shoot fireballs and breathe underwater, and he invented airplanes.

but can he shoot fireballs underwater???

GenSci26, you obviously havent been following the story, fonz is the one that started the issues with others such as myself, by using his mod powers to bully members around. When anyone spoke out about him, he had them banned, he evern tried to do it with me as well. I never started any issues with him, but I sure will finish them

I had forgotten about the 19" arm thing, thats hilarious. I am easily twice his size, a point even he has made, and my arms have never reached that size
 
Fonz said:
*Yawn*

Is that all you got?

And here I was waiting for some an actual verbal exchange.

What a dissapointment.

I play soccer, and in every single athletic endeavour except strength, I would crush like the sad little white supremacist you are. I'm faster, can jump higher, have greater endurance, can accelerate faster...and I could go on and on.

Atheltic ability is FAR HARDER to achieve than just simply increasing your muscle size. MUCH HARDER. Look at you...you haven't had a blood test in years...I really wonder how screwed up your organs are. Me on the other hand get checked every 8 weeks, and I really laugh when people think I'm crazy for running this or that for long periods. Health is my #1 concern, your's is obviously not. If for any reason, one health marker was out of place...I would stop immediately.

This is what is come down to here at EF: Talk, talk, talk.

I can out-think, and out-smart any of you people with just a couple of neurons. And also funny how its always the same people bashing me...and then 4 posts? LOL......damn this is just downright laughable. What a bunch of panises you trashology people are. USE YOUR OWN SN's...

EVER HEARD OF IDEAS OR DON'T ANY OF YOU CLOWN'S KNOW HOW TO USE TWO BRAIN CELLS SIMULTANEOUSLY?

Nelson is just running scared for his life now, because he fully well knows my knowledge on every single subject matter related to fitness surpasses his by about a BILLION to one.

When the book comes out, Nelson will go the way of the ancient greeks. Crumble into nothingness.

And Bulldog, proteinfiend....where's the pics?

Oh...thats what I thought...still bulking right....lol

What a joke.


Fonz, you're still not getting it. You're delusional. People don't see the world like you. You think everything can be proven by a picture, well...it can't. People have different goals...needsize is a bodybuilder, you're a soccer player. Of course your endurance and speed is better, he doesn't care about that...so bragging about it is getting you nowhere.

You can be faster than anyone you want...it doesn't change the fact that you're a pathological liar, does it? You simply choose things out of everyone's posts to answer, and leave the rest out. You have nothing to say to me, so you ask for a pic...that doesn't sound like something someone would do that could outsmart me with a few neurons. You need to get a clue buddy, there are people that are gonna be smarter than you, faster than you, have more endurance than you, be better at soccer than you. I'm starting to believe that you ACTUALLY think you might be the smartest person in the world, as well as the best athlete...pretty sad.


So, instead of picking and choosing your fights...why don't you answer the questions that so many have on their minds because you won't talk about? Talk about your SAS experience, your 19" arms, your AA hockey experience, a degree, something to back up all the lies you've told. Oh wait, that doesn't make much sense, because, by definition, you can't back up a lie.

Take care pal...you're a joke. Might as well laugh along with the rest of us at the big joke at elite (and the rest of the internet)...fonz.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
Wasn't Fonz's mod status taken away before I started re-posting?

I honestly don't know. I do know there was no connection.

George did not tell me that the NM board was coming. He didn't ask me to pull Fonz's mod privs, nor did he ask me not to. (A regular member asked me to look at a thread. I looked at it, discussed it with Fonz as well as the other mods and admins, and came to my own decision. Full stop.)

The admins are human. We overlook things (it's a busy board!) and we also try to make allowances. Sometimes that means things go on longer than they should. Sometimes it means things get stomped on that would have worked themselves out if they'd been left alone. I try to err on the side of letting things work themselves out, though a lot of people don't believe that.
 
GenSci26 said:
I don't know about the stories (honestly I don't give a ****) but I got to say, Fonz was always very helpful in promptly answering questions, especially over the pms. And he did help me a lot. I'm suprised that not a single other soul can acknowledge that..
And it's funny how you guys are ALL bashing on him now, because yesterday ya all were praising about how much he knew his shit, bla bla bla... I guess like Nelson said "if someone presents themself as a leader -- people will follow"... I totally agree and it still applies!! Well guess what, the sheeps of yesterday are still sheeps!!! They are just following another shepherd.


Fonz has plenty of supporters and is perfectly capable of fighting his own battles. I don't know enough about the facts at hand to take a side. I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Fonz. He's been knocked down but he'll get back up.
 
LOL... this post is pure entertainment. I have remained fairly neutral on this FONZ VS Everyone debate... but reading through this thread makes me realize what a goofy jackoff Fonz is. Bragging about his superior intellect, atleticism, good looks etc... It just seems very childish and pathetic.

Chat boards are a forum for exchange of information and debating of ideas and theories. The more seasoned you become, the better you are at disseminating the valid ideas and the garbage. Unfortunately, some people have confused them for their shot at glory and becoming a cyber demi-god.

BTW... Go look at my pictures in the photos of members... it is clear that I have a Greek God like body.... a big dick... and superior body kinesthetics (due to my superior posing ability.)
 
The_Eviscerator said:
BTW... Go look at my pictures in the photos of members... it is clear that I have a Greek God like body.... a big dick... and superior body kinesthetics (due to my superior posing ability.)

I guess I must hate you too then, as according to fonzie thats why we hate him, because he is so clearly superior to the rest of us.....
 
digger said:
I honestly don't know. I do know there was no connection.

George did not tell me that the NM board was coming. He didn't ask me to pull Fonz's mod privs, nor did he ask me not to. (A regular member asked me to look at a thread. I looked at it, discussed it with Fonz as well as the other mods and admins, and came to my own decision. Full stop.)

The admins are human. We overlook things (it's a busy board!) and we also try to make allowances. Sometimes that means things go on longer than they should. Sometimes it means things get stomped on that would have worked themselves out if they'd been left alone. I try to err on the side of letting things work themselves out, though a lot of people don't believe that.

I do. Admining a board with so many personalities and viewpoints isn't easy. Especially when the natives are restless and there is fresh blood in the air. I may not always agree with the decisions that seem to be made, but I can surely respect that they need to be made by someone, and I'm just glad it is not me.
 
Ok, I didnt really pay tha much attention to this ongoing Fonz and Friends war. I acually sat down and read all of this. FONZ is a complete moron! I dont care if I banned for this but youare a complete loser. You're not big, I know a million people more ripped than you and who the fuck care how much you can leg press. You are a bitch ass soccer player. My sister has more athletic ability than you will ever have and she's a retard. Why dont you go run 1000weeks of Fina and show of that puss ass body of yours. You're a little bitch.
 
digger said:
I honestly don't know. I do know there was no connection.

George did not tell me that the NM board was coming. He didn't ask me to pull Fonz's mod privs, nor did he ask me not to. (A regular member asked me to look at a thread. I looked at it, discussed it with Fonz as well as the other mods and admins, and came to my own decision. Full stop.)

The admins are human. We overlook things (it's a busy board!) and we also try to make allowances. Sometimes that means things go on longer than they should. Sometimes it means things get stomped on that would have worked themselves out if they'd been left alone. I try to err on the side of letting things work themselves out, though a lot of people don't believe that.

digger are you the developer/tech guy here at EF?
 
ProtienFiend said:
digger are you the developer/tech guy here at EF?

Not exactly. I'm actually at the ISP, not on the EF payroll. I also handle abuse complaints for the ISP, so I tend to be a bit sensitive. But I'm respectful of George's business, and he knows I won't go around stomping on his paying customers just for laughs.
 
digger said:
Not exactly. I'm actually at the ISP, not on the EF payroll. I also handle abuse complaints for the ISP, so I tend to be a bit sensitive. But I'm respectful of George's business, and he knows I won't go around stomping on his paying customers just for laughs.

at the ISP?.... im guessing you mean the one who provides the domain/web server, etc...

if so, PM me your prices :o
 
Fonz is a sack of shit who's body never changes. He cuts and pastes better than anyone though thats for sure.
 
pakelika, good points. Of course I get accused my body never changing because I don't have a digital camera and haven't taken any good photos in some time.
 
Pakelika said:
Fonz is a sack of shit who's body never changes. He cuts and pastes better than anyone though thats for sure.

Plus on the reported amounts of AAS he uses, he should probably be a monster, yet he is not.
 
And the point of continuing to rehash all of this on a forum where he's banned is.... ? Anyone?

Bueller?

...anyone?
 
digger said:
And the point of continuing to rehash all of this on a forum where he's banned is.... ? Anyone?

Bueller?

...anyone?

A-f_ing-MEN! Give it a rest already!
 
I'll be happy to leave it alone when fonz stops threatening to use personal info against me
 
Needsize, as far I can gather you are an established competitive athlete. There's really nothing for you to prove here because you do it in real life.
Whatever Fonz says he's going to do or actually is going to do is not in your control. At some point it just seems pointless and not worth the energy. I wish I was at half your level especially considering how little it is claimed that you know.
 
mt said:
Needsize, as far I can gather you are an established competitive athlete. There's really nothing for you to prove here because you do it in real life.
Whatever Fonz says he's going to do or actually is going to do is not in your control. At some point it just seems pointless and not worth the energy. I wish I was at half your level especially considering how little it is claimed that you know.

true, I should leave it alone as I think I made my point about who fonz really is, its just hard not to react when he makes personal threats.
Fonz could be right about my knowlege, if so, i cant imagine how far along I might be if I actually knew something....
 
needsize said:
Fonz could be right about my knowlege, if so, i cant imagine how far along I might be if I actually knew something....

Well, you know, Fonz is planning to come out with a book so.... I know, I know, bad joke. I just couldn't resist.

Now get back to your training and that beautiful wife of yours. That's where your energy should be focused on. For a guy as stupid and ugly as you are accused of being you haven't done half bad. We all should be as lucky.
 
mt said:
Well, you know, Fonz is planning to come out with a book so.... I know, I know, bad joke. I just couldn't resist.

Now get back to your training and that beautiful wife of yours. That's where your energy should be focused on. For a guy as stupid and ugly as you are accused of being you haven't done half bad. We all should be as lucky.

true, true, my wife has always been the most important thing in my life, now that she has given me a beautiful son its even more so. I guess I really havent dont that bad for an ugly stupid bastard...I wonder if I should have used a pic off of an international baby model site????
 
I dont come on here too often but i like to read. I was curious to fonz and nelson's credentials. What degrees do both of you hold? What kind of education? I was just really curious is all. No offense meant just a curious observer is all.
 
JR SYD said:
I dont come on here too often but i like to read. I was curious to fonz and nelson's credentials. What degrees do both of you hold? What kind of education? I was just really curious is all. No offense meant just a curious observer is all.

Nelson doesn't have an education...degrees if thats what you meant.
Bad, good, or indifferent.....he does have experience. You have to give credit where credit is due. So thats why people ask him questions on matters of fitness.

My field is different from anything related to fitness. But I do have 2 degrees. I'm an academic/athlete hence why I am more interested in cutting edge supplements, AAS etc...

You could say we're polar opposites.
 
digger said:
Not exactly. I'm actually at the ISP, not on the EF payroll. I also handle abuse complaints for the ISP, so I tend to be a bit sensitive. But I'm respectful of George's business, and he knows I won't go around stomping on his paying customers just for laughs.

digger = spellwin @ I am LMAO at your last sentence Digger :digger: like hell you wouldn't.


:verygood:
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
digger = spellwin
I'm not George, even on my best day. And he's not me, even on his.

like hell you wouldn't.

Read for meaning, pardner. I didn't say I wouldn't ever stomp on them. I said it wouldn't do it for laughs, i.e. without a reason. You might not agree with the reason, but there will be one.
 
Fonz said:
Nelson, Needsize and crew are just comic relief for me now. They are so beyond reality they are to be pitied.

And Nelson.........don't tempt. I could reduce each of your pathetic supplements to the consistentcy of silly putty, but then again....who sponsors EF?

Protein...factory..and its their product line "helped(lol)" design by you.

My comments would destroy PF's supplements put it that way.

And I would do it with every scientific means at my disposal gladly.

But, then Ef would get slammed, and thats not my intention....my intention is to prove what farce you are. And when MY E-BOOK comes out, everyone is going to laugh at just how stupid yours is. Its 50 years behind the times. Thats how pathetic is is.

And Needsize....go back to the training board...you have ZERO KNOWELDGE ON THE SCIENCE OF SUPPLEMENTS AND AAS PHARMACOLOGY. ZERO. Now scram.

Damn, I hate taking out the garbage.

Dude you are the fucking trash Fonzy. 50 weeks on tren and you lost weight? And you want to chalenge Needsize who can obviously put on muscle when you cant.

DUDE STFU and ban yourself or something.
 
Folks, this is all moot now. The guy is gone.

"De mortuis, nil nisi bonum."
 
on the internet, NOBODY asks ANYBODY about his whereabouts.
Montana, EG, comes here with his face in the open: he has written books; he has published articles etc.
I can come here & sometimes be right; sometimes wrong.
Sometimes i may be right for some & wrong for others.
But if i choose to disclose whereabouts, that MUST be true.
On the WWW everyone can boast about anything...
Man, i can say i am a pro UK bodybuilder with degrees in astrophysics...
An UK street address: 60£/year if you don't require add-ons.
An UK cell phone SIM: 50-100£
faked photoshopped pictures & degrees: say 20$ the piece.
It just depends how HARD i need it.
But building a fake persona & bash everybody based on that fiction is pathetic.
I can be a total moron & illiterate about the subject.
I can read boards & come here rehashing this or that five star post from somewhere else to look cool.
If i know foreign languages, i bet i can find at least 2 or 3 big boards where i can go on a fishing trip.
 
Pakelika said:
Fonz is a sack of shit who's body never changes. He cuts and pastes better than anyone though thats for sure.


Are you really Pakelika? If so whats up man, i used to post on wiggles board..
 
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