Mixed emotions on what pct to use

[tical]

It should be suficient at 25mg, get labwork after 4 weeks of PCT to confirm this. It's a good idea to start low and work your way up to find your "sweet spot" of clomid that will bring your test to top-range levels. For example, when searching for my sweet spot I started at 12.5mg, this brought my test to a little below mid range, so I upped it to 25mg and it brought it to just under the top of the range. I stayed there because there is no need to go higher than this. Your body's natural production (when you're off clomid) isn't likely to be this high anyway.

Nandrolones like tren and deca are more harsh on your HPTA because they also bind to progestin receptors and downregulate your pituitary response to GnRH. I believe the key here to a successful recovery isn't so much on the quantity of the PCT drug used, but the duration of use.

3 weeks is not enough. 6 weeks should be a mininum, 8-12 weeks is optimal.

When using a low dose of clomid (no more than necessary), the estrogenic sides are minimal. Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors and selectively activating some of them as well. The more clomid you're using, the more "selective activation" will occur, and this is where the estrogenic sides come into play. Once you get some labwork done (4-6 weeks in), you'll likely see that 25mg is plenty enough to bring your natural testosterone to the top of the range and more is not necessary.

 

[hhwarrior1987]

ok got ya. thanks man for helping me. got any suggestions for anything i should have on hand or take while on this tren?

 

[skaman007]

Ok. Clomid for 4-6 wks 25mg ed is enough? Even on tren? Just wanna make sure I'm gettin this right lol. also what else do i need to get to keep on hand? i've read nolva is a no go with tren but i'm not 100% sure on that.. i've also heard of the progesterone that can happen on tren but not sure what to get. i've read different things on that too.. thanks again

get sum formastanzol of mr supps i think,,with 50mg clomid for 4 wks..and a cheap addition is creatine and bulk daa.

 

[tical]

ok got ya. thanks man for helping me. got any suggestions for anything i should have on hand or take while on this tren?

Some dostinex to deal with elevated prolactin (from the tren).

Good luck!

 

[EZ_E]

The site is out of hcgenerate and unleashed.. what does everyone put/keep their hcg in after they mix it? Ive seen sealed and unsealed empty vials. Would that work?

Per Needto, they should be back soon.....don't start any cycle until you have all your PCT.......

~EZ

 

[Dogfox]

ok got ya. thanks man for helping me. got any suggestions for anything i should have on hand or take while on this tren?

clomid after tren id run at 50mgs or the desired amount. sustain alpha id run after the 4 weeks of clomid and id run DAA the whole 8 weeks

 

[brownbrown]

Om G... the help is flowing! yall are Top of the line
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[needtogetaas]

That's way too much clomid. 25mg is plenty enough to illicit the desired response.

I'd do that for at least 4-6 weeks following your cycle. If it worked for you before, no sense in changing it up now.

tical was right way way way to damn much clomid . There is nver a need to go over 25mg ed maybe 50mg max on clomid.. Now that you have many working otc products you do not need to use so much toxic serms anyway.. Here is a pct that will work for any cycle no matter what the cycle was or how long it was.

1. Run hcg 500ius twice a week during the cycle.
then start pct the day the cycle ends
weeks
1-6 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm and taper down to 3 am and pm the last two weeks of this.
2-4 unelashed and post cycle 1 cap 3 times a day of each. If its out of stock wait a day or two and it alwasy comes back. Its in stock now.
1-5 hcgenerate 5 caps every day or bridge 2 caps 3 times a day.


You can choice to run hcgenerate the last few weeks of the cycle and throughout the pct too if you like. This is also a good way to run hcgenerate.