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great info guys!! this is what's missing on this board.. it's been awhile since priceless info like this are discussed.. gonna mark this thread..

reminds me y i love hanging around the training board.. instead of BTS.. hehe..
 
exactly =]

Yea, madcow i see exactly what you mean by how the bench will most likely stall first due to the years of working it out.

My incline bench(dumbells), has gone up. NEW PR, and i dont feel THAT lift slowing down. I havnt trained incline dumbells like i trained chest, so now after reading what you wrote, i can see why.

My last Pr on my incline dumbells, was 95x5, just blew it out with 100x5 =]

Thanks Madcow, its great you still stop on by over here!
 
mm107 said:
My last Pr on my incline dumbells, was 95x5, just blew it out with 100x5 =]

Actually just to keep the magnitude in perspective and better understand dumbells and why progression is hard, that 5lbs increase is 5.25%. That's a big PR and if you get even a modest string of those going, that's just awesome. The issue with dumbells is the common 5lbs increment (which is actually 10lbs if you think of both hands and made worse by the lighter relative loads vs. a barbell equivalent). For 100lbs dumbells or greater it's around 5% which is big but not rediculous but for the schmoe using 40's that 5lbs is 12.5%. Just a staggering incremental jump. Some people just never think about this stuff and see it as only the 'next weight' though.
 
Madcow2 said:
Actually just to keep the magnitude in perspective and better understand dumbells and why progression is hard, that 5lbs increase is 5.25%. That's a big PR and if you get even a modest string of those going, that's just awesome. The issue with dumbells is the common 5lbs increment (which is actually 10lbs if you think of both hands and made worse by the lighter relative loads vs. a barbell equivalent). For 100lbs dumbells or greater it's around 5% which is big but not rediculous but for the schmoe using 40's that 5lbs is 12.5%. Just a staggering incremental jump. Some people just never think about this stuff and see it as only the 'next weight' though.

Hell yea, DEF right! I try to round off the numbers, not going up just because my ego wants to. I just found microplates, but they are for the barbell, not the dumbell, so in week 7-8-9, i can use the microplates to actually get to exact weight =]

I see the percentage points, and how its easier to get correct percentages if your lifts are already big. Such as 200+.

I just like incline dumbells, so I really wanted to improve them, PLUS it looks real good, when a 185lbs 20yr old juice free, is bangin 100x5 while the gear users are bangin 90's.

I have so much pride in the program now its crazy, like people are asking me to put them on the program. SORRY ASSHOLES, if you doubt me in week 1 and then by week 4 ur shit out of luck because u should of listened to me.

The program is a great program, im really happy i gave it a try. Ive been lifting constently for 4 months now. (on and off for yrs with sports,etc) And i have seen amazing results. Im really getting shredded up, 6pac coming in, and i was afraid this was a "bulking" only routine. This routine will work for anyone.
 
mm107 said:
PLUS it looks real good, when a 185lbs 20yr old juice free, is bangin 100x5 while the gear users are bangin 90's.

I was going to K ya and say "who cares what others think" then I remembered how much i seem to at times!!!!!!
 
mm107 said:
I just found microplates, but they are for the barbell, not the dumbell, so in week 7-8-9, i can use the microplates to actually get to exact weight =]

I don't know how serious you are about dumbells but:

http://www.performbetter.com/detail.aspx_Q_ID_E_3968_A_CategoryID_E_351

For dumbells 1.25lbs magnets. So that gives you 2.5 lbs increments or 5lbs total for both dumbells rather than 10. (the only use of the 2.5lbs platemates are to avoid purchasing dumbells in 5lbs increments and just buying 10s all the way up).

You could also source some magnets yourself and see if you can find one that makes for easy increments. It doesn't really matter too much as long as it is reasonable and gives you 1-2 increments in between.

I have a whole piece on fractional plates and microloading on my site along with the platemates link (and others) and a homebrew solution. http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/Topics/Microloading.htm
 
Madcow2 said:
I don't know how serious you are about dumbells but:

http://www.performbetter.com/detail.aspx_Q_ID_E_3968_A_CategoryID_E_351

For dumbells 1.25lbs magnets. So that gives you 2.5 lbs increments or 5lbs total for both dumbells rather than 10. (the only use of the 2.5lbs platemates are to avoid purchasing dumbells in 5lbs increments and just buying 10s all the way up).

You could also source some magnets yourself and see if you can find one that makes for easy increments. It doesn't really matter too much as long as it is reasonable and gives you 1-2 increments in between.

I have a whole piece on fractional plates and microloading on my site along with the platemates link (and others) and a homebrew solution. http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/Topics/Microloading.htm

HOLY shit madcow!!!! I have those magnets at my gym!! in fact i got alot of them!!!! Never knew or realized what they were for!!!!! hanks brooooo i neeeeded that!!!

Now i CAN go up 2lbs a time on the dumbell!

Al420, i could care less, lol i started the 5x5with like 100lbs on the bar lol
BUTTTT for somereason i wanna be strong in that lift. MAYBE because its by te cardio area and all the loevely ladies can see me lifting, lol jk

But greatttt i got the magnets i will use them!
 
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