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Michael Vick says he would like a pet dog
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Absolutely not, not just because of what he did but because there was a sentence saying he couldn't, a punishment and ruling said he couldn't for now and the answer should be NO.
redshirt27se
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I have no problem with it. He deserves a second chance. He's not going to be stupid enough to go down the same road twice. Despite what some people want to think, Michael Vick is not a monster. He's a human being who made a mistake, and paid the penalty for it.
Here's the thing, information (requested by media personnel) under the Freedom of information Act revealed Vick, personally, hanged or drowned 7 dogs. Total animal deaths were only estimated, and those estimates were in the hundreds. This definitely shows systematic, and institutionalized, abuse.
Yes, he served his time, yes, he would be under heavy scutinization if, and apparently, when, he's able to have dogs again. If it were up to me, would I let him have a pet? Nope, and as Cutroat mentioned, and I concur, no sooner would I let Vick have dogs than a *rehabilitated* pedo work daycare.
Yes, he served his time, yes, he would be under heavy scutinization if, and apparently, when, he's able to have dogs again. If it were up to me, would I let him have a pet? Nope, and as Cutroat mentioned, and I concur, no sooner would I let Vick have dogs than a *rehabilitated* pedo work daycare.
Vick still gets a lot of press here since he was our QB and the dog fighting took place here, so there's probably more yammering about this stupid news item here about in any other media market.
Michael Vick is quite simply a thug. Atlanta is full of thug rappers and Vick was our thug pro QB. No one does all the shit Vick did that isn't a thug. I'm glad we're rid of him.
Not only has Matt Ryan proved himself to be a far more effective QB for the Falcons, he doesn't embarrass the fuck out of our city by strangling dogs.
Michael Vick is quite simply a thug. Atlanta is full of thug rappers and Vick was our thug pro QB. No one does all the shit Vick did that isn't a thug. I'm glad we're rid of him.
Not only has Matt Ryan proved himself to be a far more effective QB for the Falcons, he doesn't embarrass the fuck out of our city by strangling dogs.
digimon7068
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if this were some anonymous, white, redneck (like the ones i know back home that have been raising pitbulls for generations) no one would give a hairy rats ass...michael vick is a football player...i could give two shits what he thinks about animals...it's not news.
Ugh, gimme a break. If these white rednecks ran a multi-state industry involving gambling and drugs, and, more importantly, the general public were aware of it, many of us would give a rat's ass to see them prosecuted to the full extent of the law...which they would be. One thing about celebrity, there always seems to be a residual Halo effect. Many times there's no such thing as parity (of sentencing) between normal folk and celebrities. I do give a a shit about anyone abusing and killing animals.
kx250rider
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The only way I want to see him with dogs, handcuffed to board naked, and lowered into a junkyard full of hungry, angry guard dogs via a helicopter cable...
Charles
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I'd say he did more than make a "mistake" since this wasn't one bad act, one poor choice. Doing something over and over doesn't really qualify as a mistake anymore. Regardless, yes he did his time, but like a sex offender who has to register, the "penalty" given out by the sentencing judge goes beyond time in prison, and in his case that means he isn't allowed to own a dog anymore. This is standard and normal for anyone convicted of animal cruelty charges.
He'll just have to deal with it.
digimon7068
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they do...it's one of the oldest "sports" in our country...and, i'm not condoning the behavior, i'm just stating some facts...and, whether or not mike vick wants to own a pet is not news...period. ben rothlisberger is probably still "dating", that's not news either. tiger woods probably has a new girlfriend or two...not news.
mike vick committed a crime...that was news...now it's over...quit shoving a microphone in front of his face and asking him dog questions just because it's a slow newsday.
and, i own a few tv clickers so YES i DO get to decide what is and isn't news!
thanks.
oh, and, i'd really like it a LOT if you didn't stop liking me because of this on account of i kinda dig you
redshirt27se
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He will be allowed to own a dog again, just not currently. The judge only barred him from owning one during his supervised release, which ends in 2012.
The whole point of prison is to reform people. It seems Vick has been reformed.
redshirt27se
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then why not just line up everyone who's ever committed a crime and put one in their head.. if there is no reform they must be useless to society.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever? what are you trying to say? Prison is a punitive action and in no way was it instituted to reform anyone.
Damn straight...fuck people.
Would somebody please explain why HANGING or DROWNING would be euthanasia of choice? Are you telling me they didn't know someone who owned a gun? They couldn't get a bottle of animal anesthetic? WTF is the thinking here? I'm not being a screaming female, I can understand that if you're going to have dogs fighting, you're eventually going to need to put some down. However, hanging the poor bastards, especially those pitbulls with their thick necks, just sounds like unabashed cruelty for its own sake.
the REAL american pitbull terrier is a dog which was a product of mixing breeds to find the perfect bull baiting dog. Once that was illegal, putting two dogs in the box became the big trend. It was a way to keep the "gameness" in the breed and rule out the currs. But that was all about the dogs. The breed is based off of having a dog who is fearless and who is structured to do well in a fight, to not fear or back down, even when facing death. It's not legal to game test dogs anymore, since 1976 actually, but like I said before that was about the dogs. Losers and currs were taken out of breeding programs and killed. I DO NOT CONDONE FIGHTING DOGS- BUT LETS NOT DENY THE ORIGINS OF THE TRUE BREED.
With that said, Michael Vick was not about the DOGS, he was about all the other bullshit going on in his ring, THATS why he got the time. you're right, murderers often get less then 2 years. I know people who have only served 11 months (after being put on parole) for murder. But murder is not organized crime. It's not usually planned out (that would be a longer sentence) and its not that complex of a crime. Organizing a gambling ring at the expense of dogs, which I bet not even 50% of them trace back to original bloodlines, is a lot more complex then offing ONE person because of a personal dispute.
How the fuck do you compare organized crime to murder? LOL ... Ridiculous. Blame the media for what gets put on the news. The media blows everything out of proportion anyway. THe man did a 2 year bid. So fucking what. How much money went into that operation? Takes a big man to kill a dog right? LOL.... (hope you guys catch the sarcasm there).. IMO he was given a second chance being allowed to play in the NFL after being nothing but a thug, albeit one who is nationally televised every sunday throwing pigskin. I'd say being able to bank right out of prison is a pretty nice second chance.
With that said, Michael Vick was not about the DOGS, he was about all the other bullshit going on in his ring, THATS why he got the time. you're right, murderers often get less then 2 years. I know people who have only served 11 months (after being put on parole) for murder. But murder is not organized crime. It's not usually planned out (that would be a longer sentence) and its not that complex of a crime. Organizing a gambling ring at the expense of dogs, which I bet not even 50% of them trace back to original bloodlines, is a lot more complex then offing ONE person because of a personal dispute.
How the fuck do you compare organized crime to murder? LOL ... Ridiculous. Blame the media for what gets put on the news. The media blows everything out of proportion anyway. THe man did a 2 year bid. So fucking what. How much money went into that operation? Takes a big man to kill a dog right? LOL.... (hope you guys catch the sarcasm there).. IMO he was given a second chance being allowed to play in the NFL after being nothing but a thug, albeit one who is nationally televised every sunday throwing pigskin. I'd say being able to bank right out of prison is a pretty nice second chance.
Nah bro he didnt get screwed. Anyone with a drug ring, a gambling ring, etc is gonna do time. It wasnt about the dogs. They were the victims, but animal brutality happens all the time. Every day. Probably on your block.
As I said, I work my dogs, they don't get treated like HUMANS, im not a fat old lady who coddles my anklebiters, but they get treated fairly. If you have to beat on a dog it shows what a coward you are. And you say he got screwed, well yeah there's murderers out there but murderers dont get to come back and play in the NFL..... LMAO
Agreed. As RW said, he's a thug.
Yes, agree with Southern Comfort, Vick's indictment and conviction really wasn't about animal cruelty. Referring back to Digi's statement in regards to redneck rings...they (hillbillies) would still be sitting in prison on racketeering charges, not the lesser charge of *dog-fighting*.
jiggagold
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I assume you don't want much football. There are quite a few murderers who play(ed) in the NFL.
I think he should get some pet roosters.
Hahahahaha
ok you got me i do watch football but i guess i didnt think of that.. all im saying is 2 years aint shit and he's back makin big money doin what he loves to do. yeah it sucks he did the time but he was banking off of something he had no business in lol.. like i said. vick is no dogman. i dont hate the guy, and good for him being in the nfl but shit i wouldnt be surprised if he tried to roll chihuahuas lol
I really do hope he is reformed but A. Prison was not his only punishment, not owning a dog until 2012 was part of it and it should be upheld regardless of who he is and if he's sorry or not, rules are rules and although everyone fucking breaks them they are set for a damn reason and B. he is damn lucky to be allowed to ever own a pet again I'm sure many people would have been prohibited pet ownership for life.
digimon7068
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they're not, though...in fact, no one even concerns themselves with this kinda stuff in the sticks...point to any non-densely populated place on a map of the lower 48 and you won't have to look too far to find someone(s) that is raising pitbulls and/or fighting chickens...it's just part of the fabric of that part of society...it's always been there.
and, like i said, i don't condone the behavior...but, i'm not going to pretend like it doesn't exist or that it's only being perpetrated and perpetuated by gangsta's and wannabe's...in it's earliest stages (in our country's history) it was a "sport" of the working-class and, generally, it still is.
You didn't say you had a particular example, in your earlier post. My post alluded to common folk (ie your interstate hillbilly operation) in the same circumstance as Vick would still be sitting in prison on the more pertinent charge of racketeering whereas Vick was charged with a lesser violation of dog fighting. I'm not going to argue if there are many such organized dog fighting rings, because I assume there are plenty.
/preach
digimon7068
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You didn't say you had a particular example, in your earlier post. My post alluded to common folk (ie your interstate hillbilly operation) in the same circumstance as Vick would still be sitting in prison on the more pertinent charge of racketeering whereas Vick was charged with a lesser violation of dog fighting. I'm not going to argue if there are many such organized dog fighting rings, because I assume there are plenty.
/preach
i guess my point was that they're not in prison...in fact, everyone knows who they are and mostly no one cares...as far as i know, they're tactics aren't quite the same as those documented in the vick case, particularly where it comes to dogs that aren't considered "game" enough...there weren't any hangings or drownings or electrocutions...from my experience, the dogs that didn't show much promise for the ring were just given away to pretty much anyone that wanted them...my hometown was full of them...the mild-mannered ones actually seemed to make pretty decent pets.
