biteme said:How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.
PuddleMonkey said:I just don't marry, thats how I solve the problem.
hanselthecaretaker said:Aside from being feminized, modern man ironically still tends to think with his dick before that thing on his shoulders. Perhaps even more-so these days, due to the fact that they are increasingly losing the gender war for power, aside from common sense. You do realize that the ultimate goal of feminism is a world without men.....
nefertiti said:You know what makes me lol about this thread? The number of guys I meet who are downright resentful of the money I make.

nefertiti said:Bleh. I'm no femenist.
digimon7068 said:mmmm. . .tell me more![]()
hanselthecaretaker said:Aside from being feminized, modern man ironically still tends to think with his dick before that thing on his shoulders. Perhaps even more-so these days, due to the fact that they are increasingly losing the gender war for power, aside from common sense. You do realize that the ultimate goal of feminism is a world without men.....
hanselthecaretaker said:Thank God. What a curse to everything good in the world they are.
Ps- I'm all for women's rights but the way feminists go about it is all wrong. Trying to compete directly with men is stupid and counterproductive. Women are unique and should be treated as such.
nefertiti said:LOL...the ones who aren't resentful want me to buy them stuff all the time.
Seriously...I'm ambitious, but I value my femininity. I love skirts, heels, being girly, cooking, all that nonsense.
biteme said:How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.
BIKINIMOM said:Ummmmm, there was NO PRENUPT when I married my husband. Then again, when I married him he had lost a ton of dough to some black-hearted bitch... I married him anyway.
Now that we are quickly on the road to a wonderful recovery - EVERYTHING is in my name - AT HIS INSISTANCE.
Tiervexx said:if he was poor when he married you then obviously there is no need for a prenupt.
But if you or him where rich and the poor one did not want a prenupt then they are probably just a gold-digger and should not be trusted anyway.
If a good person marries a rich one for the right reason they won't mind getting a prenupt.
georgie24 said:like mulder says TRUST NOONE lol
wombtool said:This bitch is supposed to be a respected person in the media:
http://www.amazon.com/Are-Men-Neces...0664034?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177784879&sr=8-1
georgie24 said:like mulder says TRUST NOONE lol
BIKINIMOM said:What a sad, lonely way to go through life.
My husband's most expensive divorce (financially that is, he has had a lot more taken from him than just money but that seems to be the most easily quantifiable loss) cost him 30M.... yet he NEVER asked any woman to sign a prenuptual. I asked him why that was. He answer?
"Either you are my wife or you aren't."
And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.
So now what...
I would NEVER marry a man that would ask me to sign a prenupt. NEVER.
redsamurai said:h
B) I somewhat understand your post, but in this day in age with so many con artists out there, not having a prenup is pretty damn stupid. Look, if I was wealthy, I'd give my wife a bank account and put more money in there than she should really legally be allowed to spend.......but giving her a potential foothold in holdings I may have, like maybe a company.....is unacceptable. But in our legal system, they sometimes give a portion of the company that may have been a family business for generations, to the wife.......that's not "fair". I beleive in fairness........and alot of what is going on is not fair, not in the slightest. If a woman divorces a man they should leave with what they came in with, obviously.........and everything gained after that be split in negotiations. And obviously some money that the man made while the wife stayed home and took care of things there, should go to her........but this whole thing of garnishing a mans wages for pretty much the rest of his life so that his wife can sit on the couch and watch oprah is bullshit. The only reason a man should owe his ex wife any money for long periods of time is for any children involved.....that's it. Her spending money is on her.......all bullshit aside!
BIKINIMOM said:What a sad, lonely way to go through life.
My husband's most expensive divorce (financially that is, he has had a lot more taken from him than just money but that seems to be the most easily quantifiable loss) cost him 30M.... yet he NEVER asked any woman to sign a prenuptual. I asked him why that was. He answer?
"Either you are my wife or you aren't."
And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.
So now what...
I would NEVER marry a man that would ask me to sign a prenupt. NEVER.
redsamurai said:I'm sorry, is that 30M? as in 30 million??
A) good for you, that's a heck of catch
B) I somewhat understand your post, but in this day in age with so many con artists out there, not having a prenup is pretty damn stupid. Look, if I was wealthy, I'd give my wife a bank account and put more money in there than she should really legally be allowed to spend.......but giving her a potential foothold in holdings I may have, like maybe a company.....is unacceptable. But in our legal system, they sometimes give a portion of the company that may have been a family business for generations, to the wife.......that's not "fair". I beleive in fairness........and alot of what is going on is not fair, not in the slightest. If a woman divorces a man they should leave with what they came in with, obviously.........and everything gained after that be split in negotiations. And obviously some money that the man made while the wife stayed home and took care of things there, should go to her........but this whole thing of garnishing a mans wages for pretty much the rest of his life so that his wife can sit on the couch and watch oprah is bullshit. The only reason a man should owe his ex wife any money for long periods of time is for any children involved.....that's it. Her spending money is on her.......all bullshit aside!
cboogsrun said:[/B]
I don't think anyone on this board is the least bit surprised. You've made it quite clear in your other 15k posts.
BIKINIMOM said:No duh - I have higher standards than most other women. And your point would be?
An interesting side note I was thinking about as a result of this thread:
Why is it that you NEVER hear of a wealthy woman bitching about having some dood take them to the cleaners?
I can think of three right off the top of my head -
Elizabeth Taylor. Her SEVENTH husband was a construction worker.
Cher's last husband was also a construction worker I believe.
And of course - who can forget about BRITNEY SPEARS. Ya'll can say what you want about how dumb and no-talent KFed is, but damn he will be living high and happy off of Britney's money but FOREVER.
Puh-lease... all the men need to STFU and move on. It is getting tiresome anymore to listen to them bitch and moan for fucking up. My husband NEVER brings up past burns. And as I said - money was THE LEAST that was robbed from him.
biteme said:How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.
velvett said:I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...
cboogsrun said:OK, I'll spell it out for you. Y o u a r e a g o l d d i g g e r. Good enough. It has nothing to do with standards. I've met great men who make 20 k a year. Elizabeth Taylor and her 7th husband. Kind of a poor example. KFed another poor example. He left a pregnant girlfriend for a very wealthy britney spears. So I guess you and him are on the same level. I think we should take a vote and see if EFers think all men should stfu or if you should stfu. I'd almost bet its a landslide for the latter.
Wootoom said:honestly i wouldnt fuckin get a women to sign a prenup how untrustworthy, thats what marriage is all about trust if u cant handle u shouldnt get married pure and simple
if i was giving up my job and roots so that we could move wherever so she could work and blah blah and i took over the kids/house responsabilities, id agree to sign if a clause was put in there stating that if she cheated/did something fucked up (like no sex) to end the relationship then i get something untill i can find a job or whatever,velvett said:I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...
cboogsrun said:OK, I'll spell it out for you. Y o u a r e a g o l d d i g g e r. Good enough. It has nothing to do with standards. I've met great men who make 20 k a year. Elizabeth Taylor and her 7th husband. Kind of a poor example. KFed another poor example. He left a pregnant girlfriend for a very wealthy britney spears. So I guess you and him are on the same level. I think we should take a vote and see if EFers think all men should stfu or if you should stfu. I'd almost bet its a landslide for the latter.
BIKINIMOM said:Now that we are quickly on the road to a wonderful recovery - EVERYTHING is in my name - AT HIS INSISTANCE.
BIKINIMOM said:Now EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.
BIKINIMOM said:And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.
biteme said:What's the point? She'll never shut up, so I just don't argue with her. We all know the scoop.
biteme said:What's the point? She'll never shut up, so I just don't argue with her. We all know the scoop.
PuddleMonkey said:Not harping on you because I don't really know you, but why do you keep repeating this over and over again. And why in caps?
nefertiti said:There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.
HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.
nefertiti said:There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.
HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.
rudeboyja said:I hear you but fantasy and reality are 2 different things. If you are makin that kind of scratch you could easily get Federlined unless you protect yourself. Prenup just makes sense on all levels.
nefertiti said:You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
nefertiti said:You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
rudeboyja said:Love is blind they say. Has anyone ever charmed the draws off you and later you thought to yourself what the fuck was I thinking?
biteme said:What's the point? She'll never shut up, so I just don't argue with her. We all know the scoop.
nefertiti said:You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
I don't think he had the kid for a year before he sent her back to live with her "abusive evil mother and her alcoholic abusive husband." mmmmmmhhhhmmmthats because now adays men get married out of love and women get married cause they think its whats expected (usually, even if the woman has to "convince" the man)nefertiti said:There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.
HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.
people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly onesnefertiti said:You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
SublimeZM said:people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones
SublimeZM said:people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones
velvett said:I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...
nefertiti said:Nope...only been in love once and I regret nothing about the experience. I've cared for several others and I still think highly of them. That's not to say I haven't known a few assholes in my lifetime, but I always saw them coming a mile away.
rudeboyja said:Senario....
You meet the perfect man, fall madly in love, get married .. All is well for the 1st year or 2. After that everything gets routine.
At your gym there is the suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy we'll call rudeboyja. You and he do some innocent flirting, which turns into an extra marriatal affair. One day hubby follows you to a hotel. He opens up the door to see you with rudeboy, upsidedown with one leg pinned behind your head, the other covered with whip cream and cherries.
So this perfect man decides he wants a divorce. He never would thought of taking money from you but now he wants to get back at you. Wish you had a prenup now???
What? It could happen.........
nefertiti said:The thing with your scenario is, I don't cheat, never would, never will. Not even with a "suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy," if such a man even exists.
HOWEVER - If I did cheat, I'd be a useless whore who deserved to lose her money.
rudeboyja said:Yes modest--LOL
Sweetheart, point is just be careful with the rose colored glasses on. Maybe you believe in "true love" & maybe you'll find it. Just makes sense to protect what's yours though. Money is the root of all evil
woah there, easy on the 'wh' word, its there for us men to degrade women with, not for them to use to trashtalk other women.nefertiti said:The thing with your scenario is, I don't cheat, never would, never will. Not even with a "suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy," if such a man even exists.
HOWEVER - If I did cheat, I'd be a useless whore who deserved to lose her money.
wanna get married? i really have no redeeming qualities other than honesty, and i can cook decently, ill work out and try and stay in good shape, ill take care of kids if you want them, ill clean the house etc, and if you want me to get a job i guess i can do that too?nefertiti said:See my above posts, though. I'd rather give a relationship everything I have, including all my trust, and have it fail than to go in halfway. If it burns me, it burns me. I'll have no regrets.
SublimeZM said:wanna get married? i really have no redeeming qualities other than honesty, and i can cook decently, ill work out and try and stay in good shape, ill take care of kids if you want them, ill clean the house etc, and if you want me to get a job i guess i can do that too?
SublimeZM said:woah there, easy on the 'wh' word, its there for us men to degrade women with, not for them to use to trashtalk other women.
for real though, ill get married if you want, with you,
SublimeZM said:people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones

redsamurai said:I still don't think there's anything wrong with signing a prenup......obviously it has to be fair, and if a man would ask a woman to sign an unfair one........than that would be a sign. But protecting family heirlooms and/or family business's should go without saying.........and any woman that would have a problem with that I seriously question her character.
BIKINIMOM said:LOL I A M A G O L D D I G G E R?
Then how do you explain me marrying a man who had ZERO ASSETS?
DUH.
Obviously, your wife didnt marry you for your brains.![]()
BIKINIMOM said:WERD
Sounds like there are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES up in this bitch.
LMFAO
BIKINIMOM said:What is it that I need to shut up about? The FACT that you dont hear women bitching and moaning when men take them to the cleaners?... or that REAL MEN STFU and move on... the way that the women do.
Oh yea, I believe that Martha Stewart was also taken to the cleaners by her ex.
I am still waiting for the "brighter" male members of EF to explain to me how it is exactly that I am a gold-digger.
I am sorry, but I don't know very many "great men" that make 20K a year. Even I made more money than that as a lowly administrative assistant before I had my first child. She was born in 1992.
...and I am CERTAIN that every single male board member would date a woman REGARDLESS of how fat or ugly she was.
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.![]()
cboogsrun said:stripping assistant. See here's the difference between a man who makes millions and a great man. I know guys who make 20k a year and take care of their families at their sacrifice. Sacrifice is a very good indicater of a great man. Being unattracted to someone and dating someone only for money are big difference.
cboogsrun said:Its quite simple to sell all of your assets before his divorce to his brother for a dollar. Secondly I'm not married. Your husband obviously didn't marry you for your brains.

Frisky said:man oh man...
wow! I just don't have the tolerance or patience... hell not even strength to voice an opinion.
I'm going get a shovel though...
PuddleMonkey said:Flat tip or spade?
biteme said:How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.
biteme said:My woman sees nothing wrong with prenups, only a fool wouldn't protect their assets. Marriage is a contract and that should be part of the contract, especially since over 50% of them fail. Fact is most women that are against them are vultures. And men too for that matter.

BIKINIMOM said:Care to elaborate how this applies to me?
I busted MY ASS to support me and my four children and all of the scumbag attorneys my ex would constantly sick on us with a job at the gym. I would get up at 3:30AM make breakfast and lunch for me and my girls (and no, I aint talkin ringdings and cheerios - that is their father's style) get them up at 4:30 to be at work by 5AM. They would sleepwalk into the childcare w/their pillows and sleeping bags and sleep on the floor till 8AM when the daycare opened to the member's children. Then I would brush their hair and give them breakfast and lunch while breaking from the front desk. I was NEVER late for work and ALWAYS wore a smile. I did all this for the grand total of EIGHT DOLLARS AN HOUR...
So what exactly is your point?
BIKINIMOM said:It is a logical assumption on my part that from your avatar you are a father and would most likely be married. Yes, I am quite void of any intelligent thought.
Why would I marry a man who would sell his assets before I married him if I were a gold-digger?
You are a rocket scientist aren't you?
Grumpy Old Man said:Just because I have $3.75 in my pocket doesn't mean she has been a golddigger all along....
Why as a matter of fact, she gave me a brand new shiny quarter for the bus yesterday!
Have you any idea how much character one has to have in order to maintain anything?
A person making 20k a year gets about $291.00 a week. If they have one kid they live in a cardboard box under a bridge, cause they have to sacrifice.
Perhaps your friends should look for better jobs, the guy that mows our lawn makes more than that. Actually he sends about that much back to Jalisco every year.
Before one makes statements like an elephant, perhaps he should recognize he is a hummingbird.![]()
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BIKINIMOM said:I know that you have trust issues which you have openly admitted to. You are 100% entitled to your opinion on this topic but be cognizant of the fact that not everyone views this issue the same way.
For me (and my husband) it is a matter of trust. Either you trust one another fully or you don't get married.
I stand by my statements. It is very easy to see that women (and men) like me would be wise not to align themselves in a LTR with men (and women) who share your point of view as it is a FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE; one that can not be compromised.
To say though that all women who share my viewpoint are gold-digging vultures and that the men that share that viewpoint are stupid pussies just isn't an accurate statement.
I fail on all accounts for ANYONE's definition of a gold-digger. I posted a thread where EVERYONE was welcome to voice their opinions and offer up an explanation as to how it is that one could view me in this regard as I married a man that was quite wealthy when we began courting but married him regardless of the fact that at the time of the nuptuals (and for several weeks before) he had zero money, barely enough to help me out financially as he had promised to do. It was MY CHOICE purely to marry him at the time that I did. Were I a gold-digger I could have A - flat out dumped him or B - delayed the nuptuals until a much later date AFTER he had recouped.
I married him because of how kind he was to me - period. The fact that he had the brain power and drive to overcome such a devastating loss as he suffered was a very large part of why I chose him to be my life partner but it was NOT the deciding factor as I had dated many men who had similar circumstances in their lives. Admittedly though, my husband was the only man that I knew who went from riches to rags practically overnight while it was happening to him.
When I first publicly announced on elite that I was marrying my husband we made no mention of his financial situation. That information was privately divulged to a few board members that I trust - they know who they are. But SublimeZM asked me on the boards, if my Old Grump lost all of his money, would I still be with him. If he only knew.
It wasn't until we were well on our way to a remarkable recovery from his WORST EVER financial crisis that we are now admitting publicly to it. So I guess I sorta failed the gold-digger test, eh?
So, either I :
A - can predict the future with great accuracy.
B - have a heart that is as genuine as it is steadfast.
C - am dumber than a bag of rocks.
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cboogsrun said:That is a funny line right there. He promised. lol! Ya your not in it for the money. lol! You didn't hold him to his promise? You are such a great woman.
cboogsrun said:IF he sold them then how doesn't he have any assets. Cash is still an asset. Whats the sq. footage of his home? What does he drive? How big is his boat? Lots of rich people can use good accoutants to show they make hardly anything. I must be a rocket scientist especially since everyone who has kids together has to be married you idiot.

alien amp pharm said:cboogsrun, save your breath bro. Anybody with at least half a brain can see BM's true colors. We feel the same way as you, but don't have the patience nor desire to sit and argue with such worthless trash anymore.
She is thriving off the attention & drama. Move on bro, move on.

seaking420 said:Not for nothing, but what is the big deal about signing a prenup. If both really trust each other and have the right intentions then neither one should have a problem signing a prenup, unless your intentions are not right. If you are going into a marriage with love and happiness on your mind and not $$ you wouldnt hesitate to sign a prenup because you think its going to last forever so it dosent matter if you sign it then.
cboogsrun said:That is a funny line right there. He promised. lol! Ya your not in it for the money. lol! You didn't hold him to his promise? You are such a great woman.
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