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How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.
 
Idiots. Paul McCartney you idiot, stupid professional athletes like Michael Jordan, etc, etc, etc.
 
I just don't marry, thats how I solve the problem. Best times of the relationship are generally the first 3-6 months. So after 3-6 months go by and she starts stressing me out about the future and kids and marriage and all that crap, I tell her bu-bye!
 
biteme said:
How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.

True.

But, not just rich men. I guy who has $50 mil gets a divorce and ends up with 25 mil. He lost more, but he can still live very comfortable.

Ask an average man who makes $40k who gets a divorce. That guy is broke after losing house, child support, and even a small amount of vaginamony.

Just go to Lowes or Home Depot on the weekend. You will find a lot of divorced men working there for a second job.
 
When your little girl makes you mad
You get an attitude and pack your bag
Five little children that youre leaving behind
Youre gonna pay some alimony or do some time

Its cheaper to keep her (cheaper to keep her)
Its cheaper to keep her (cheaper to keep her)
See when you get to staring that judge in the face
Youre gonna wanna cuss the whole human race
Its cheaper to keep her (cheaper to keep her)
Too much to leave that little girl (cheaper to keep her)
Its cheaper, its cheaper, cheaper, its cheaper
Its cheaper, its cheaper
Its cheaper cheaper cheaper cheaper, yeah

You didnt pay for two dollars to bring the girl home
Now youre about to pay two thousand to leave alone
See another woman out there, you wanna make a change
She aint gonna want you cause you wont have a damn thing
 
Be nice if people paid attention to who they were getting involved w/ - the quality of the person and also the type of effort they (the person) is putting into attention for other and what they expect out of it. You can't keep giving & giving and expect nothing back - cuz that's what you'll get. It has to do w/ respect for yourself first & foremost.
 
You know what makes me lol about this thread? The number of guys I meet who are downright resentful of the money I make.
 
Aside from being feminized, modern man ironically still tends to think with his dick before that thing on his shoulders. Perhaps even more-so these days, due to the fact that they are increasingly losing the gender war for power, aside from common sense. You do realize that the ultimate goal of feminism is a world without men.....
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Aside from being feminized, modern man ironically still tends to think with his dick before that thing on his shoulders. Perhaps even more-so these days, due to the fact that they are increasingly losing the gender war for power, aside from common sense. You do realize that the ultimate goal of feminism is a world without men.....

Bleh. I'm no femenist.
 
nefertiti said:
Bleh. I'm no femenist.


Thank God. What a curse to everything good in the world they are.


Ps- I'm all for women's rights but the way feminists go about it is all wrong. Trying to compete directly with men is stupid and counterproductive. Women are unique and should be treated as such.
 
digimon7068 said:
mmmm. . .tell me more :qt:

LOL...the ones who aren't resentful want me to buy them stuff all the time. ;)

Seriously...I'm ambitious, but I value my femininity. I love skirts, heels, being girly, cooking, all that nonsense.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Aside from being feminized, modern man ironically still tends to think with his dick before that thing on his shoulders. Perhaps even more-so these days, due to the fact that they are increasingly losing the gender war for power, aside from common sense. You do realize that the ultimate goal of feminism is a world without men.....

This bitch is supposed to be a respected person in the media:
http://www.amazon.com/Are-Men-Neces...0664034?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177784879&sr=8-1
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Thank God. What a curse to everything good in the world they are.


Ps- I'm all for women's rights but the way feminists go about it is all wrong. Trying to compete directly with men is stupid and counterproductive. Women are unique and should be treated as such.

Totally agreed.
 
nefertiti said:
LOL...the ones who aren't resentful want me to buy them stuff all the time. ;)

Seriously...I'm ambitious, but I value my femininity. I love skirts, heels, being girly, cooking, all that nonsense.

one man's nonsense is music to another man's ears. . .
 
Who was it who said "Next time I think I want to get married, I'll just find some bitch that I hate and give her half my stuff."
 
biteme said:
How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.

Ummmmm, there was NO PRENUPT when I married my husband. Then again, when I married him he had lost a ton of dough to some black-hearted bitch... I married him anyway.

Now that we are quickly on the road to a wonderful recovery - EVERYTHING is in my name - AT HIS INSISTANCE.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Ummmmm, there was NO PRENUPT when I married my husband. Then again, when I married him he had lost a ton of dough to some black-hearted bitch... I married him anyway.

Now that we are quickly on the road to a wonderful recovery - EVERYTHING is in my name - AT HIS INSISTANCE.

if he was poor when he married you then obviously there is no need for a prenupt.

But if you or him where rich and the poor one did not want a prenupt then they are probably just a gold-digger and should not be trusted anyway.

If a good person marries a rich one for the right reason they won't mind getting a prenupt.
 
Tiervexx said:
if he was poor when he married you then obviously there is no need for a prenupt.

But if you or him where rich and the poor one did not want a prenupt then they are probably just a gold-digger and should not be trusted anyway.

If a good person marries a rich one for the right reason they won't mind getting a prenupt.

When we met he had PLENTY. By the time we actually married he went through a MAJOR hiccup.

Now EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.

If a man of means ever asked me to sign a prenupt, then I would sign, but would refuse to marry him and end the relationship. THAT would be the cost of my signature.

Trust is HYUGE with me. I would NEVER marry another man who had trust issues.
 
wombtool said:


I know Maureen Dowd......she's not some feminazi that wants men exterminated. The title of that book is tongue in cheek, jesus....... :rolleyes:


and even feminists don't want to get rid of men........just cheauvinist pigs........which I see no problem with. Now if there's women out there that want to get rid of men and procreate with artificial sperm made from bone marrow.......well.........fuck em.
 
georgie24 said:
like mulder says TRUST NOONE lol

What a sad, lonely way to go through life.

My husband's most expensive divorce (financially that is, he has had a lot more taken from him than just money but that seems to be the most easily quantifiable loss) cost him 30M.... yet he NEVER asked any woman to sign a prenuptual. I asked him why that was. He answer?

"Either you are my wife or you aren't."

And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.

So now what...

I would NEVER marry a man that would ask me to sign a prenupt. NEVER.
 
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I'm sorry, is that 30M? as in 30 million??

A) good for you, that's a heck of catch

B) I somewhat understand your post, but in this day in age with so many con artists out there, not having a prenup is pretty damn stupid. Look, if I was wealthy, I'd give my wife a bank account and put more money in there than she should really legally be allowed to spend.......but giving her a potential foothold in holdings I may have, like maybe a company.....is unacceptable. But in our legal system, they sometimes give a portion of the company that may have been a family business for generations, to the wife.......that's not "fair". I beleive in fairness........and alot of what is going on is not fair, not in the slightest. If a woman divorces a man they should leave with what they came in with, obviously.........and everything gained after that be split in negotiations. And obviously some money that the man made while the wife stayed home and took care of things there, should go to her........but this whole thing of garnishing a mans wages for pretty much the rest of his life so that his wife can sit on the couch and watch oprah is bullshit. The only reason a man should owe his ex wife any money for long periods of time is for any children involved.....that's it. Her spending money is on her.......all bullshit aside!



BIKINIMOM said:
What a sad, lonely way to go through life.

My husband's most expensive divorce (financially that is, he has had a lot more taken from him than just money but that seems to be the most easily quantifiable loss) cost him 30M.... yet he NEVER asked any woman to sign a prenuptual. I asked him why that was. He answer?

"Either you are my wife or you aren't."

And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.

So now what...

I would NEVER marry a man that would ask me to sign a prenupt. NEVER.
 
redsamurai said:
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B) I somewhat understand your post, but in this day in age with so many con artists out there, not having a prenup is pretty damn stupid. Look, if I was wealthy, I'd give my wife a bank account and put more money in there than she should really legally be allowed to spend.......but giving her a potential foothold in holdings I may have, like maybe a company.....is unacceptable. But in our legal system, they sometimes give a portion of the company that may have been a family business for generations, to the wife.......that's not "fair". I beleive in fairness........and alot of what is going on is not fair, not in the slightest. If a woman divorces a man they should leave with what they came in with, obviously.........and everything gained after that be split in negotiations. And obviously some money that the man made while the wife stayed home and took care of things there, should go to her........but this whole thing of garnishing a mans wages for pretty much the rest of his life so that his wife can sit on the couch and watch oprah is bullshit. The only reason a man should owe his ex wife any money for long periods of time is for any children involved.....that's it. Her spending money is on her.......all bullshit aside!


Totally agree, Woman or men who ask for alimony are pretty sad. Of course unless they are ill and cannot work.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
What a sad, lonely way to go through life.

My husband's most expensive divorce (financially that is, he has had a lot more taken from him than just money but that seems to be the most easily quantifiable loss) cost him 30M.... yet he NEVER asked any woman to sign a prenuptual. I asked him why that was. He answer?

"Either you are my wife or you aren't."

And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.

So now what...

I would NEVER marry a man that would ask me to sign a prenupt. NEVER.


I don't think anyone on this board is the least bit surprised. You've made it quite clear in your other 15k posts.
 
redsamurai said:
I'm sorry, is that 30M? as in 30 million??

A) good for you, that's a heck of catch

B) I somewhat understand your post, but in this day in age with so many con artists out there, not having a prenup is pretty damn stupid. Look, if I was wealthy, I'd give my wife a bank account and put more money in there than she should really legally be allowed to spend.......but giving her a potential foothold in holdings I may have, like maybe a company.....is unacceptable. But in our legal system, they sometimes give a portion of the company that may have been a family business for generations, to the wife.......that's not "fair". I beleive in fairness........and alot of what is going on is not fair, not in the slightest. If a woman divorces a man they should leave with what they came in with, obviously.........and everything gained after that be split in negotiations. And obviously some money that the man made while the wife stayed home and took care of things there, should go to her........but this whole thing of garnishing a mans wages for pretty much the rest of his life so that his wife can sit on the couch and watch oprah is bullshit. The only reason a man should owe his ex wife any money for long periods of time is for any children involved.....that's it. Her spending money is on her.......all bullshit aside!


Yes, that was 30 MILLION - but I didn't get that... one of his ex-wive's did. LOL

Me - I WANT IT ALL!! Money is just scratching the surface of what my husband gives me on a daily basis. As I said, ALL the men I dated were men of means so money had nothing to do with why I chose him... Hell, if ya'll remember I have said it over and over again. I married my husband when he had NOTHING, still licking his wounds from the last BIG BURN he suffered.

And yes, he is a helluva catch. I am forever appreciative for all of the women he was with before me as:

A - They trained him well.

B - They were dumb enough to fuck it up so now he is ALL MINE! :)
 
cboogsrun said:
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I don't think anyone on this board is the least bit surprised. You've made it quite clear in your other 15k posts.

No duh - I have higher standards than most other women. And your point would be?

An interesting side note I was thinking about as a result of this thread:

Why is it that you NEVER hear of a wealthy woman bitching about having some dood take them to the cleaners?

I can think of three right off the top of my head -

Elizabeth Taylor. Her SEVENTH husband was a construction worker.

Cher's last husband was also a construction worker I believe.

And of course - who can forget about BRITNEY SPEARS. Ya'll can say what you want about how dumb and no-talent KFed is, but damn he will be living high and happy off of Britney's money but FOREVER.

Puh-lease... all the men need to STFU and move on. It is getting tiresome anymore to listen to them bitch and moan for fucking up. My husband NEVER brings up past burns. And as I said - money was THE LEAST that was robbed from him.
 
k-fed is a dishonorable louse not worthy of the treatment a common house rodent would receive. Money can't buy character.........I haven't seen too many men here prop up Kfed as someone to look up to.....I think we've all stated he's pretty much the bottom in a giant shit pool. Why he received that money is a complete mystery to me.........a serious abberation of our legal system IMO.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
No duh - I have higher standards than most other women. And your point would be?

An interesting side note I was thinking about as a result of this thread:

Why is it that you NEVER hear of a wealthy woman bitching about having some dood take them to the cleaners?

I can think of three right off the top of my head -

Elizabeth Taylor. Her SEVENTH husband was a construction worker.

Cher's last husband was also a construction worker I believe.

And of course - who can forget about BRITNEY SPEARS. Ya'll can say what you want about how dumb and no-talent KFed is, but damn he will be living high and happy off of Britney's money but FOREVER.

Puh-lease... all the men need to STFU and move on. It is getting tiresome anymore to listen to them bitch and moan for fucking up. My husband NEVER brings up past burns. And as I said - money was THE LEAST that was robbed from him.


OK, I'll spell it out for you. Y o u a r e a g o l d d i g g e r. Good enough. It has nothing to do with standards. I've met great men who make 20 k a year. Elizabeth Taylor and her 7th husband. Kind of a poor example. KFed another poor example. He left a pregnant girlfriend for a very wealthy britney spears. So I guess you and him are on the same level. I think we should take a vote and see if EFers think all men should stfu or if you should stfu. I'd almost bet its a landslide for the latter.
 
velvett said:
I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...

I'd be perfectly fine with it and expect it. If things turned sour, I shouldn't get her money. The majority of women do take the men's money, so not getting a prenup is just stupid.
 
honestly i wouldnt fuckin get a women to sign a prenup how untrustworthy, thats what marriage is all about trust if u cant handle u shouldnt get married pure and simple
 
cboogsrun said:
OK, I'll spell it out for you. Y o u a r e a g o l d d i g g e r. Good enough. It has nothing to do with standards. I've met great men who make 20 k a year. Elizabeth Taylor and her 7th husband. Kind of a poor example. KFed another poor example. He left a pregnant girlfriend for a very wealthy britney spears. So I guess you and him are on the same level. I think we should take a vote and see if EFers think all men should stfu or if you should stfu. I'd almost bet its a landslide for the latter.

LOL I A M A G O L D D I G G E R?

Then how do you explain me marrying a man who had ZERO ASSETS?


DUH.

Obviously, your wife didnt marry you for your brains. :)
 
Wootoom said:
honestly i wouldnt fuckin get a women to sign a prenup how untrustworthy, thats what marriage is all about trust if u cant handle u shouldnt get married pure and simple

WERD

Sounds like there are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES up in this bitch.

LMFAO
 
velvett said:
I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...
if i was giving up my job and roots so that we could move wherever so she could work and blah blah and i took over the kids/house responsabilities, id agree to sign if a clause was put in there stating that if she cheated/did something fucked up (like no sex) to end the relationship then i get something untill i can find a job or whatever,

but if it was a prenup that if i cheated or did something fucked up i didnt get shit, id sign right away,
 
cboogsrun said:
OK, I'll spell it out for you. Y o u a r e a g o l d d i g g e r. Good enough. It has nothing to do with standards. I've met great men who make 20 k a year. Elizabeth Taylor and her 7th husband. Kind of a poor example. KFed another poor example. He left a pregnant girlfriend for a very wealthy britney spears. So I guess you and him are on the same level. I think we should take a vote and see if EFers think all men should stfu or if you should stfu. I'd almost bet its a landslide for the latter.

What's the point? She'll never shut up, so I just don't argue with her. We all know the scoop.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Now that we are quickly on the road to a wonderful recovery - EVERYTHING is in my name - AT HIS INSISTANCE.

BIKINIMOM said:
Now EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.

BIKINIMOM said:
And now, instead of 50/50 EVERYTHING is in MY NAME.... AT HIS INSISTANCE.


Not harping on you because I don't really know you, but why do you keep repeating this over and over again. And why in caps?
 
biteme said:
What's the point? She'll never shut up, so I just don't argue with her. We all know the scoop.

What is it that I need to shut up about? The FACT that you dont hear women bitching and moaning when men take them to the cleaners?... or that REAL MEN STFU and move on... the way that the women do.

Oh yea, I believe that Martha Stewart was also taken to the cleaners by her ex.

I am still waiting for the "brighter" male members of EF to explain to me how it is exactly that I am a gold-digger.

I am sorry, but I don't know very many "great men" that make 20K a year. Even I made more money than that as a lowly administrative assistant before I had my first child. She was born in 1992.

...and I am CERTAIN that every single male board member would date a woman REGARDLESS of how fat or ugly she was.

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. :rolleyes:
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Not harping on you because I don't really know you, but why do you keep repeating this over and over again. And why in caps?

To illustrate the fact that not ALL MEN are stupid pussies.

Just sayin...

Even after my husband got taken to the cleaners over and over and over again, he still managed to find a way to trust. I suppose that is just one measure of his oustanding character.
 
There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.

HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.
 
nefertiti said:
There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.

HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.

I hear you but fantasy and reality are 2 different things. If you are makin that kind of scratch you could easily get Federlined unless you protect yourself. Prenup just makes sense on all levels.
 
nefertiti said:
There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.

HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.

It is called Palimony (I believe) and yes, it does happen. Alimony/palimony is just a part of how an exspouse can fleece the other.

How many times have you heard the wife taking jobs as waitress/etc to put her husband through law/med school, etc. Then when it is supposed to be "her turn" to further her career/life he suddenly decides to trade her in for a younger model? Puh-lease... How can you get back all the years of your life that you spent supporting someone? And I am not talking about money.

My husband's latest trip to the cleaners cost him a couple million. That is only money. He also has some SERIOUS legal issues which can not be quantified merely by money spent on lawyers. And yet he bent over backwards (and continues to do so to this day) to live up to the promises and commitments that he made to me and my kids.

The point I am trying to make is all the he-men woman haters need to STFU because BOTH genders get fucked on a daily basis.

Live with it and move on.... chalk it up to experience and try to make better choices next go round. :)
 
rudeboyja said:
I hear you but fantasy and reality are 2 different things. If you are makin that kind of scratch you could easily get Federlined unless you protect yourself. Prenup just makes sense on all levels.

You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
 
nefertiti said:
You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.


Exactly, I couldn't imagine being such a asshole
 
nefertiti said:
You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.

Love is blind they say. Has anyone ever charmed the draws off you and later you thought to yourself what the fuck was I thinking?
 
rudeboyja said:
Love is blind they say. Has anyone ever charmed the draws off you and later you thought to yourself what the fuck was I thinking?


Nope...only been in love once and I regret nothing about the experience. I've cared for several others and I still think highly of them. That's not to say I haven't known a few assholes in my lifetime, but I always saw them coming a mile away.
 
nefertiti said:
You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.

You know what I found to be funny? When another male board member posted up practically giddy with delight that he banged his ex for childsupport so that "now he could get cable TV and high speed internet."

Now THAT was some funny shit.

How much BIGGER of a fuckin stupid pussy could a man be?

I would put my tail between my legs and hide in shame if I was that man. And not post up on the internet bragging about what a poor excuse for a man I was... But then again, I suppose it takes all types.

Wonder how he pays for cable and internet since he couldn't handle THE ONE kid he had and said, "Bye bye" to "all that" child support money. :lmao: I don't think he had the kid for a year before he sent her back to live with her "abusive evil mother and her alcoholic abusive husband." mmmmmmhhhhmmm
 
nefertiti said:
There is a very very good chance that I'll be the breadwinner of just about every relationship I am in unless I start dating a pro athlete or something...and I wouldn't get a guy to sign a prenup. I'm a romantic and hate the idea of a "just in case" clause. I'd probably agree to sign one if roles reversed and he wanted it, but I don't think I'd ever request it.

HOWEVER - I've also never heard of a guy requesting alimony, so there's less reason for me to have paranoia about it.
thats because now adays men get married out of love and women get married cause they think its whats expected (usually, even if the woman has to "convince" the man)
 
nefertiti said:
You think? I guess I just can't imagine being so off in my judgement of someone that I would marry the kind of guy who'd try and take what he didn't earn.
people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones
 
SublimeZM said:
people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones

I can't bring myself to be that cynical.

If I get burned down the line for it, so be it...but even if I did marry someone who ended up taking me to the cleaners, my thought proccess would be that I made a mistake in trusting HIM, not in trusting in and of itself. I would have regret that things worked out as they did, but I would not regret my choice to commit myself to a marriage as if it's never going to end, and when I got married again, I wouldn't do anything differently.
 
SublimeZM said:
people suck, the only ones who are loyal are the ugly ones

Problem is that too many people look with their eyes to judge the beauty of another.

There is NOTHING uglier than someone who is ugly on the inside. No amount of external physical beauty can mask or make up for this....
 
velvett said:
I'd like to know how the men feel about the woman that hands you the prenup...


yup...

it goes both ways
 
nefertiti said:
Nope...only been in love once and I regret nothing about the experience. I've cared for several others and I still think highly of them. That's not to say I haven't known a few assholes in my lifetime, but I always saw them coming a mile away.


Senario....
You meet the perfect man, fall madly in love, get married .. All is well for the 1st year or 2. After that everything gets routine.

At your gym there is the suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy we'll call rudeboyja. You and he do some innocent flirting, which turns into an extra marriatal affair. One day hubby follows you to a hotel. He opens up the door to see you with rudeboy, upsidedown with one leg pinned behind your head, the other covered with whip cream and cherries.

So this perfect man decides he wants a divorce. He never would thought of taking money from you but now he wants to get back at you. Wish you had a prenup now???


What? It could happen.........
 
rudeboyja said:
Senario....
You meet the perfect man, fall madly in love, get married .. All is well for the 1st year or 2. After that everything gets routine.

At your gym there is the suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy we'll call rudeboyja. You and he do some innocent flirting, which turns into an extra marriatal affair. One day hubby follows you to a hotel. He opens up the door to see you with rudeboy, upsidedown with one leg pinned behind your head, the other covered with whip cream and cherries.

So this perfect man decides he wants a divorce. He never would thought of taking money from you but now he wants to get back at you. Wish you had a prenup now???


What? It could happen.........

The thing with your scenario is, I don't cheat, never would, never will. Not even with a "suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy," if such a man even exists. ;)

HOWEVER - If I did cheat, I'd be a useless whore who deserved to lose her money.
 
nefertiti said:
The thing with your scenario is, I don't cheat, never would, never will. Not even with a "suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy," if such a man even exists. ;)

HOWEVER - If I did cheat, I'd be a useless whore who deserved to lose her money.

Yes modest--LOL

Sweetheart, point is just be careful with the rose colored glasses on. Maybe you believe in "true love" & maybe you'll find it. Just makes sense to protect what's yours though. Money is the root of all evil
 
I wouldn't mind signing a prenup, I just wouldn't sign an unfair one. You can make pretty much whatever terms you choose. They are not always bad for the woman, you know.
 
rudeboyja said:
Yes modest--LOL

Sweetheart, point is just be careful with the rose colored glasses on. Maybe you believe in "true love" & maybe you'll find it. Just makes sense to protect what's yours though. Money is the root of all evil

See my above posts, though. I'd rather give a relationship everything I have, including all my trust, and have it fail than to go in halfway. If it burns me, it burns me. I'll have no regrets.
 
nefertiti said:
The thing with your scenario is, I don't cheat, never would, never will. Not even with a "suave, charming, devastatingly handsome, brilliant, well hung, Adonis type physique, modest guy," if such a man even exists. ;)

HOWEVER - If I did cheat, I'd be a useless whore who deserved to lose her money.
woah there, easy on the 'wh' word, its there for us men to degrade women with, not for them to use to trashtalk other women. ;)

for real though, ill get married if you want, with you,
 
nefertiti said:
See my above posts, though. I'd rather give a relationship everything I have, including all my trust, and have it fail than to go in halfway. If it burns me, it burns me. I'll have no regrets.
wanna get married? i really have no redeeming qualities other than honesty, and i can cook decently, ill work out and try and stay in good shape, ill take care of kids if you want them, ill clean the house etc, and if you want me to get a job i guess i can do that too?
 
SublimeZM said:
wanna get married? i really have no redeeming qualities other than honesty, and i can cook decently, ill work out and try and stay in good shape, ill take care of kids if you want them, ill clean the house etc, and if you want me to get a job i guess i can do that too?


Gold digger. ;)
 
SublimeZM said:
woah there, easy on the 'wh' word, its there for us men to degrade women with, not for them to use to trashtalk other women. ;)

for real though, ill get married if you want, with you,

LOL not quite... a whore is a synonym for a prostitute, applies to both men and women who sell themselves in exchange for money, usually but not limited to sexual favors.

I believe that SLUT would be the proper word, which also applies to both genders, though not nearly as scathing when applied to a man. You can thank sociey's double standard for that. :)

I don't see how though, unfaithfull = you lose all of your assets.

Personally (and this is MY .02) I wouldn't enter into a marriage or committed relationship of any sort with an individual who placed such a paramount on money alone for this says to me that they feel their money alleviates them from being truly committed to me and risking their emotions.

Money can be found and lost. Try getting back years of your life squandered on someone who treated you poorly or just even not as well as you treated them?.... or try getting back years stolen from you and your children. <---NO prenuptual agreement can insulate one from such losses.
 
I dont know what I would do if a husband to be asked me to sign a prenup.

I understand both sides; so its really all up to what you are able to put up with ; and how much you are willing to negotiate BEFORE you even get married. lol.

I probably would sign one as long as it was fair. A man cant set himself up to be taken advantage of either ; but cant expect me to lose everything either. Sometimes you need SOMETHING to hold the marriage together. If you make it too easy to get out of a relationship you are going to do just that.
 
I still don't think there's anything wrong with signing a prenup......obviously it has to be fair, and if a man would ask a woman to sign an unfair one........than that would be a sign. But protecting family heirlooms and/or family business's should go without saying.........and any woman that would have a problem with that I seriously question her character.
 
redsamurai said:
I still don't think there's anything wrong with signing a prenup......obviously it has to be fair, and if a man would ask a woman to sign an unfair one........than that would be a sign. But protecting family heirlooms and/or family business's should go without saying.........and any woman that would have a problem with that I seriously question her character.


why get married??? if that's an issue.. simply sign a $$$ contract with conditions and expectations..

that's all a marriage is about when it comes to this discussion... And it's a contract that is arbitrary in it's application state to state..

with a pre-nup everyone knows what is expected..

easy sneezy..
 
BIKINIMOM said:
LOL I A M A G O L D D I G G E R?

Then how do you explain me marrying a man who had ZERO ASSETS?


DUH.

Obviously, your wife didnt marry you for your brains. :)


Its quite simple to sell all of your assets before his divorce to his brother for a dollar. Secondly I'm not married. Your husband obviously didn't marry you for your brains.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
WERD

Sounds like there are a bunch of FUCKING PUSSIES up in this bitch.

LMFAO

Good ole fashion stipper mouth.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
What is it that I need to shut up about? The FACT that you dont hear women bitching and moaning when men take them to the cleaners?... or that REAL MEN STFU and move on... the way that the women do.

Oh yea, I believe that Martha Stewart was also taken to the cleaners by her ex.

I am still waiting for the "brighter" male members of EF to explain to me how it is exactly that I am a gold-digger.

I am sorry, but I don't know very many "great men" that make 20K a year. Even I made more money than that as a lowly administrative assistant before I had my first child. She was born in 1992.

...and I am CERTAIN that every single male board member would date a woman REGARDLESS of how fat or ugly she was.

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. :rolleyes:


stripping assistant. See here's the difference between a man who makes millions and a great man. I know guys who make 20k a year and take care of their families at their sacrifice. Sacrifice is a very good indicater of a great man. Being unattracted to someone and dating someone only for money are big difference.
 
Threads like this make me wonder why so many gay people wana be able to get married...

I'd be ok just with a "hospital visit" contract or something. It just means you can visit them in the hospital as if a family member.
 
cboogsrun said:
stripping assistant. See here's the difference between a man who makes millions and a great man. I know guys who make 20k a year and take care of their families at their sacrifice. Sacrifice is a very good indicater of a great man. Being unattracted to someone and dating someone only for money are big difference.

Care to elaborate how this applies to me?

I busted MY ASS to support me and my four children and all of the scumbag attorneys my ex would constantly sick on us with a job at the gym. I would get up at 3:30AM make breakfast and lunch for me and my girls (and no, I aint talkin ringdings and cheerios - that is their father's style) get them up at 4:30 to be at work by 5AM. They would sleepwalk into the childcare w/their pillows and sleeping bags and sleep on the floor till 8AM when the daycare opened to the member's children. Then I would brush their hair and give them breakfast and lunch while breaking from the front desk. I was NEVER late for work and ALWAYS wore a smile. I did all this for the grand total of EIGHT DOLLARS AN HOUR...

So what exactly is your point?
 
cboogsrun said:
Its quite simple to sell all of your assets before his divorce to his brother for a dollar. Secondly I'm not married. Your husband obviously didn't marry you for your brains.


It is a logical assumption on my part that from your avatar you are a father and would most likely be married. Yes, I am quite void of any intelligent thought.

Why would I marry a man who would sell his assets before I married him if I were a gold-digger?

You are a rocket scientist aren't you?
 
Just because I have $3.75 in my pocket doesn't mean she has been a golddigger all along....
Why as a matter of fact, she gave me a brand new shiny quarter for the bus yesterday!

Have you any idea how much character one has to have in order to maintain anything?

A person making 20k a year gets about $291.00 a week. If they have one kid they live in a cardboard box under a bridge, cause they have to sacrifice.

Perhaps your friends should look for better jobs, the guy that mows our lawn makes more than that. Actually he sends about that much back to Jalisco every year.

Before one makes statements like an elephant, perhaps he should recognize he is a hummingbird. :rainbow:

:santa:
 
man oh man...

wow! I just don't have the tolerance or patience... hell not even strength to voice an opinion.

I'm going get a shovel though...
 
Frisky said:
man oh man...

wow! I just don't have the tolerance or patience... hell not even strength to voice an opinion.

I'm going get a shovel though...


Flat tip or spade?
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Flat tip or spade?


both... just incase


(btw, i have no freaking idea what the difference is... lol )
 
My woman sees nothing wrong with prenups, only a fool wouldn't protect their assets. Marriage is a contract and that should be part of the contract, especially since over 50% of them fail. Fact is most women that are against them are vultures. And men too for that matter.
 
biteme said:
How could any rich man marry a bitch without having her sign a prenup??? No way would I not do that. And most don't and then complain when they get raped.

Cause you want to believe that love is real. And sadly half the time it is not. :rolleyes:
 
biteme said:
My woman sees nothing wrong with prenups, only a fool wouldn't protect their assets. Marriage is a contract and that should be part of the contract, especially since over 50% of them fail. Fact is most women that are against them are vultures. And men too for that matter.

I know that you have trust issues which you have openly admitted to. You are 100% entitled to your opinion on this topic but be cognizant of the fact that not everyone views this issue the same way.

For me (and my husband) it is a matter of trust. Either you trust one another fully or you don't get married.

I stand by my statements. It is very easy to see that women (and men) like me would be wise not to align themselves in a LTR with men (and women) who share your point of view as it is a FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE; one that can not be compromised.

To say though that all women who share my viewpoint are gold-digging vultures and that the men that share that viewpoint are stupid pussies just isn't an accurate statement.

I fail on all accounts for ANYONE's definition of a gold-digger. I posted a thread where EVERYONE was welcome to voice their opinions and offer up an explanation as to how it is that one could view me in this regard as I married a man that was quite wealthy when we began courting but married him regardless of the fact that at the time of the nuptuals (and for several weeks before) he had zero money, barely enough to help me out financially as he had promised to do. It was MY CHOICE purely to marry him at the time that I did. Were I a gold-digger I could have A - flat out dumped him or B - delayed the nuptuals until a much later date AFTER he had recouped.

I married him because of how kind he was to me - period. The fact that he had the brain power and drive to overcome such a devastating loss as he suffered was a very large part of why I chose him to be my life partner but it was NOT the deciding factor as I had dated many men who had similar circumstances in their lives. Admittedly though, my husband was the only man that I knew who went from riches to rags practically overnight while it was happening to him.

When I first publicly announced on elite that I was marrying my husband we made no mention of his financial situation. That information was privately divulged to a few board members that I trust - they know who they are. But SublimeZM asked me on the boards, if my Old Grump lost all of his money, would I still be with him. If he only knew. ;)

It wasn't until we were well on our way to a remarkable recovery from his WORST EVER financial crisis that we are now admitting publicly to it. So I guess I sorta failed the gold-digger test, eh?

So, either I :

A - can predict the future with great accuracy.

B - have a heart that is as genuine as it is steadfast.

C - am dumber than a bag of rocks.

:lmao:
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Care to elaborate how this applies to me?

I busted MY ASS to support me and my four children and all of the scumbag attorneys my ex would constantly sick on us with a job at the gym. I would get up at 3:30AM make breakfast and lunch for me and my girls (and no, I aint talkin ringdings and cheerios - that is their father's style) get them up at 4:30 to be at work by 5AM. They would sleepwalk into the childcare w/their pillows and sleeping bags and sleep on the floor till 8AM when the daycare opened to the member's children. Then I would brush their hair and give them breakfast and lunch while breaking from the front desk. I was NEVER late for work and ALWAYS wore a smile. I did all this for the grand total of EIGHT DOLLARS AN HOUR...

So what exactly is your point?


Because your hung up on money instead of the man. Making $8 an hour just fueled your fire. Your hard work is very admirable, its the other things about you that make you ugly.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
It is a logical assumption on my part that from your avatar you are a father and would most likely be married. Yes, I am quite void of any intelligent thought.

Why would I marry a man who would sell his assets before I married him if I were a gold-digger?

You are a rocket scientist aren't you?


IF he sold them then how doesn't he have any assets. Cash is still an asset. Whats the sq. footage of his home? What does he drive? How big is his boat? Lots of rich people can use good accoutants to show they make hardly anything. I must be a rocket scientist especially since everyone who has kids together has to be married you idiot.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Just because I have $3.75 in my pocket doesn't mean she has been a golddigger all along....
Why as a matter of fact, she gave me a brand new shiny quarter for the bus yesterday!

Have you any idea how much character one has to have in order to maintain anything?

A person making 20k a year gets about $291.00 a week. If they have one kid they live in a cardboard box under a bridge, cause they have to sacrifice.

Perhaps your friends should look for better jobs, the guy that mows our lawn makes more than that. Actually he sends about that much back to Jalisco every year.

Before one makes statements like an elephant, perhaps he should recognize he is a hummingbird. :rainbow:

:santa:

I may be a hummingbird, but if you made 20k a year you wouldn't be married to bikinimom right now. lol! Its funny as men get older they fail to see people for who they are. Like your wife for instance is trash. all you see is a younger attractive woman who shows you attention. Primarily because you've done well for yourself.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I know that you have trust issues which you have openly admitted to. You are 100% entitled to your opinion on this topic but be cognizant of the fact that not everyone views this issue the same way.

For me (and my husband) it is a matter of trust. Either you trust one another fully or you don't get married.

I stand by my statements. It is very easy to see that women (and men) like me would be wise not to align themselves in a LTR with men (and women) who share your point of view as it is a FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE; one that can not be compromised.

To say though that all women who share my viewpoint are gold-digging vultures and that the men that share that viewpoint are stupid pussies just isn't an accurate statement.

I fail on all accounts for ANYONE's definition of a gold-digger. I posted a thread where EVERYONE was welcome to voice their opinions and offer up an explanation as to how it is that one could view me in this regard as I married a man that was quite wealthy when we began courting but married him regardless of the fact that at the time of the nuptuals (and for several weeks before) he had zero money, barely enough to help me out financially as he had promised to do. It was MY CHOICE purely to marry him at the time that I did. Were I a gold-digger I could have A - flat out dumped him or B - delayed the nuptuals until a much later date AFTER he had recouped.

I married him because of how kind he was to me - period. The fact that he had the brain power and drive to overcome such a devastating loss as he suffered was a very large part of why I chose him to be my life partner but it was NOT the deciding factor as I had dated many men who had similar circumstances in their lives. Admittedly though, my husband was the only man that I knew who went from riches to rags practically overnight while it was happening to him.

When I first publicly announced on elite that I was marrying my husband we made no mention of his financial situation. That information was privately divulged to a few board members that I trust - they know who they are. But SublimeZM asked me on the boards, if my Old Grump lost all of his money, would I still be with him. If he only knew. ;)

It wasn't until we were well on our way to a remarkable recovery from his WORST EVER financial crisis that we are now admitting publicly to it. So I guess I sorta failed the gold-digger test, eh?

So, either I :

A - can predict the future with great accuracy.

B - have a heart that is as genuine as it is steadfast.

C - am dumber than a bag of rocks.

:lmao:

That is a funny line right there. He promised. lol! Ya your not in it for the money. lol! You didn't hold him to his promise? You are such a great woman.
 
cboogsrun said:
That is a funny line right there. He promised. lol! Ya your not in it for the money. lol! You didn't hold him to his promise? You are such a great woman.

cboogsrun, save your breath bro. Anybody with at least half a brain can see BM's true colors. We feel the same way as you, but don't have the patience nor desire to sit and argue with such worthless trash anymore.

She is thriving off the attention & drama. Move on bro, move on.
 
Not for nothing, but what is the big deal about signing a prenup. If both really trust each other and have the right intentions then neither one should have a problem signing a prenup, unless your intentions are not right. If you are going into a marriage with love and happiness on your mind and not $$ you wouldnt hesitate to sign a prenup because you think its going to last forever so it dosent matter if you sign it then.
 
cboogsrun said:
IF he sold them then how doesn't he have any assets. Cash is still an asset. Whats the sq. footage of his home? What does he drive? How big is his boat? Lots of rich people can use good accoutants to show they make hardly anything. I must be a rocket scientist especially since everyone who has kids together has to be married you idiot.

I am an idiot since I assumed a man with a child was married to his mother?

YOU said my husband sold his assets, not me.

My husband's assets were STOLEN. So he had naught but his bare ass... and I married him anyway.

So now, be done with the circular arguements and answer the question:

If I am SUCH a gold-digger how is that I married a man who had NO ASSETS at the time that I married him?

Simple question, simple answer, no complicated far-fetched scenarios invented in your head to support your arguements. Either I am or I am not. :qt:

Like having a battle of wits with an unarmed man.... :lmao:
 
alien amp pharm said:
cboogsrun, save your breath bro. Anybody with at least half a brain can see BM's true colors. We feel the same way as you, but don't have the patience nor desire to sit and argue with such worthless trash anymore.

She is thriving off the attention & drama. Move on bro, move on.

The only worthless trash on this thread are the two pisspoor pathetic excuses for men - you and this bobo who can't answer a simple question without degrading the arguement to name calling when your stupidity is exposed.

True colors?

Answer the question - How can I be a gold-digger if I married a man with NO ASSETS at the time that I married him?

Puh-lease.

You and this imbecile's problem is that neither of you could hold a candle to a REAL MAN like my husband. He made a promise that he didn't have to live up to. How easy would it have been for him to *poof* disappear? I was in Jersey and he in Texas? He lost ALL of his assets practically overnight and still has legal issues from the rammifications of some bitch that stole it all. She did more than take his home, his cars, his cash, his prestigious position.... more than you will ever be able to understand. He didn't HAVE to do anything for me. But because HE IS A REAL MAN he lived up to his word.

There is so much more to our story that is none of anybody's business. Ya'll jess keep bragging on how well ya'll treat yo baby's mamas which makes you dah man and how you think so highly of your girlfriends that you will NEVER marry them and how you feel the need to brag about your manhood on an internet discussion board by stating that she was soooooooo gratefull for this behavior (you know how she LOVED the fact that you didn't even acknowledge Valentine's Day - damn you got her trained but for real) that they felt so inclined to drop to their knees to suck your cock.... Damn, all I had to do is "be me" and make my husband a card. My husband got me a Jag for Valentine's Day.

But who am I to judge. As long as ya'll happy! :lmao:
 
seaking420 said:
Not for nothing, but what is the big deal about signing a prenup. If both really trust each other and have the right intentions then neither one should have a problem signing a prenup, unless your intentions are not right. If you are going into a marriage with love and happiness on your mind and not $$ you wouldnt hesitate to sign a prenup because you think its going to last forever so it dosent matter if you sign it then.

If this line of thinking were coming from both ends then the party with the assets would never bring up the prenup. C'est nes pas?
 
cboogsrun said:
That is a funny line right there. He promised. lol! Ya your not in it for the money. lol! You didn't hold him to his promise? You are such a great woman.

Funny? In what way?

What did you promise your baby mama?
 
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