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Maybe someone is trying to ruin your life. I could easily fuck any of my friends over by leaving a pair of my girls panties at their house. Your husband is innocent until proven guilty.
 
Smurfy said:
oh god damnit i would have hisballs twisted up into his throat until he screamed out in mercy with the truth about those fuckin panties. i would torture him until he confessed and then Id leave him sobbing and convulsing in a ball on the floor.


good luck



Choke him to death with the panties......tie them so tight around his balls that they would fall off.... :qt: :heart:
 
This is fcuked up. There is no way they belong to a friend of mine or someone planted them to start trouble. Our bedroom, bathroom, laundry room are all upstairs. When people come over, they stay downstairs. Upstairs is the private, no-go zone.
Melissa didn't have anything to do with this. I have never trusted anyone like I trust her,plus, she's the one who got me to date my husband in the first place.
They aren't mine. Not my brand. Not my size.
The only way I can even think of for them to get into our laundry is if they fell out of one of his pockets in the laundry or something. Maybe he found them in his truck and stuck them in a coat pocket with the intention of throwing them away before I found them...... but was too drunk/or whatever to remember to take them out of the pocket. Either way, they ended up in our laundry and I know they didn't walk there.
He seems to be sticking to his story. He says I won't ever get another story from him because he's telling the truth. He said if I leave I will just feel like shit later because I'm wrong and he's innocent.
 
myway said:
This is fcuked up. There is no way they belong to a friend of mine or someone planted them to start trouble. Our bedroom, bathroom, laundry room are all upstairs. When people come over, they stay downstairs. Upstairs is the private, no-go zone.
Melissa didn't have anything to do with this. I have never trusted anyone like I trust her,plus, she's the one who got me to date my husband in the first place.
They aren't mine. Not my brand. Not my size.
The only way I can even think of for them to get into our laundry is if they fell out of one of his pockets in the laundry or something. Maybe he found them in his truck and stuck them in a coat pocket with the intention of throwing them away before I found them...... but was too drunk/or whatever to remember to take them out of the pocket. Either way, they ended up in our laundry and I know they didn't walk there.
He seems to be sticking to his story. He says I won't ever get another story from him because he's telling the truth. He said if I leave I will just feel like shit later because I'm wrong and he's innocent.

sorry... this is a bad situation any way you look at it. I hope you find out what the dealio is.
 
myway said:
This is fcuked up. There is no way they belong to a friend of mine or someone planted them to start trouble. Our bedroom, bathroom, laundry room are all upstairs. When people come over, they stay downstairs. Upstairs is the private, no-go zone.
Melissa didn't have anything to do with this. I have never trusted anyone like I trust her,plus, she's the one who got me to date my husband in the first place.
They aren't mine. Not my brand. Not my size.
The only way I can even think of for them to get into our laundry is if they fell out of one of his pockets in the laundry or something. Maybe he found them in his truck and stuck them in a coat pocket with the intention of throwing them away before I found them...... but was too drunk/or whatever to remember to take them out of the pocket. Either way, they ended up in our laundry and I know they didn't walk there.
He seems to be sticking to his story. He says I won't ever get another story from him because he's telling the truth. He said if I leave I will just feel like shit later because I'm wrong and he's innocent.

You have been home 95% of the time with the baby right? I doubt he could have a girl over to leave them. (accidently)

I don't see why he would bring in some girls panties to the house? Or, in his pocket. Or, even have them? Married guys wouldn't be that stupid to keep a girls panties. (well maybe)lol

Maybe if he went on a trip and they got put in his bags?
 
Log it into the back of your mind and wait for things to start adding up. If there's anything to it, it'll come to surface soon enough. If not, then you're ok.
 
Just curious.

Have you cut him back on the secks?

Or, has he cut back?
 
myway said:
This is fcuked up. There is no way they belong to a friend of mine or someone planted them to start trouble. Our bedroom, bathroom, laundry room are all upstairs. When people come over, they stay downstairs. Upstairs is the private, no-go zone.
Melissa didn't have anything to do with this. I have never trusted anyone like I trust her,plus, she's the one who got me to date my husband in the first place.
They aren't mine. Not my brand. Not my size.
The only way I can even think of for them to get into our laundry is if they fell out of one of his pockets in the laundry or something. Maybe he found them in his truck and stuck them in a coat pocket with the intention of throwing them away before I found them...... but was too drunk/or whatever to remember to take them out of the pocket. Either way, they ended up in our laundry and I know they didn't walk there.
He seems to be sticking to his story. He says I won't ever get another story from him because he's telling the truth. He said if I leave I will just feel like shit later because I'm wrong and he's innocent.

So this is your fault now, I see. He could at least be a little more understanding on why you are a little upset....no?
 
all the whey said:
You have been home 95% of the time with the baby right? I doubt he could have a girl over to leave them. (accidently)

I don't see why he would bring in some girls panties to the house? Or, in his pocket. Or, even have them? Married guys wouldn't be that stupid to keep a girls panties. (well maybe)lol

Maybe if he went on a trip and they got put in his bags?

He doesn't go on trips BUT
He works some off-duty cop jobs. Basically, takes his truck and watches places (for security) and sits there all night. Before we got married and moved in together, he had me come see him at these spots. I could have easily left my panties in that truck back in those days. If some trick left them in there and he didn't realize til he got home/almost home, I could see him easily deciding to try to smuggle them out of the truck by stuffing them in a coat pocket/other laundry.
 
Ever think maybe there his! Maybe he has a fetish you are unaware of.

Probably some other women's but thought I'd throw in a curve ball.
 
nolongerconfused said:
Ever think maybe there his! Maybe he has a fetish you are unaware of.

Probably some other women's but thought I'd throw in a curve ball.

A fetish would be easier to deal with.
 
myway said:
I'm trying to br reasonable. Where do I go from now?


fuck that. be nasty. be viscious. come back and tell us about it.

I ain't ever the other gazillon pages on this thread either.

And I ain't gonna.
 
Who knows. Hopefully, it's not what it looks like. Give it some time and the truth will come out. Don't look concerned or angry in the mean time. Don't let him make you feel guilty for wondering. You have good reason. Patients is golden here.
 
I've had chicks stuff their panties in my pocket when bouncing with a # on them. Drunk ho, but cute. I hung hers above the bar where the # was visible. I don't think he's being honest, but he may not be cheating on you either.

He fucked up when he wasn't honest about it up front.
 
myway said:
I'm thinking about sending him to his mother's house. Seriously. Does that sound too drastic?
yes, he is an adult wtf?
and his monies are paying for the house that you share together...imo, you have zero right to "send" him to his mothers house like a scolded puppy
i think all signals point to an innocent man
and
do the panties have stains? post pics if so
 
myway said:
I'm thinking about sending him to his mother's house. Seriously. Does that sound too drastic?
uhh no. hes an adult and pays for the house if you are a stay at home mom. if you feel you need to leave than do it but i would have some patience and see what develops or what you can find.
My guess is either he got some trick in his car on one of those side jobs or did a little too much at a strip club or party or whatever and got them in his pocket and forgot to take them out.
 
myway said:
I'm thinking about sending him to his mother's house. Seriously. Does that sound too drastic?

I would sit down and talk to him about this when he gets home today. Dealing with a 10 week old is no small task and the stress and hormones raging in your body only add fuel to the fire. Not saying you are some hormonal mess, it is a fact that your hormones are whacked for a quite a while after a baby. Sending him packing might be a really big mistake you will end up regretting. But don't take the advice of a bunch of people from a bodybuilding forum. Talk to your husband honestly and tell him how upset you are. Run through all the scenarios you have on this thread with him and try and make him understand how upset you are about this. If he is half a man he will respect you and make the time to discuss it. Not simply dismiss it. He has to realize that this looks insanely ignorant on his part.
 
From my own personal experience, I've had some ex's panties in my home that forget about, that I kept over the years. I've got in trouble once for that. Big mix up. The relatioship had be ended after though. I had to come to grasp that would mess things up again in a serious relationship. Some poeple must learn from there mistakes the hard way.
 
yourmomgoestocollege said:
I would sit down and talk to him about this when he gets home today. Dealing with a 10 week old is no small task and the stress and hormones raging in your body only add fuel to the fire. Not saying you are some hormonal mess, it is a fact that your hormones are whacked for a quite a while after a baby. Sending him packing might be a really big mistake you will end up regretting. But don't take the advice of a bunch of people from a bodybuilding forum. Talk to your husband honestly and tell him how upset you are. Run through all the scenarios you have on this thread with him and try and make him understand how upset you are about this. If he is half a man he will respect you and make the time to discuss it. Not simply dismiss it. He has to realize that this looks insanely ignorant on his part.
Excellent points.

And if this doesn't work. Post up nudes.
 
Bino said:
yes, he is an adult wtf?
and his monies are paying for the house that you share together...imo, you have zero right to "send" him to his mothers house like a scolded puppy
i think all signals point to an innocent man
and
do the panties have stains? post pics if so

Are you high? A strange woman's underwear DONT = innocence.

If it were the other way around (meaning that the hubby found strange boxer's in wifey's laundry) then would it still = innocent woman?

PUH-LEASE.

The guy is a dumbass because he got sloppy.

But AN infidelity is also not a reason to end a marriage. Talk it out. If he won't come clean to some level of stupidity (we are all human) then he needs to find someplace else to get his laundry done - ie his momma's house.
 
AztecWarrior said:
From my own personal experience, I've had some ex's panties in my home that forget about, that I kept over the years. I've got in trouble once for that. Big mix up. The relatioship had be ended after though. I had to come to grasp that would mess things up again in a serious relationship. Some poeple must learn from there mistakes the hard way.
This is a married couple who own a house, so you would have to assume he was living in the house before he was involved with his present wife for that theory to hold. Otherwise they are just another married couple that went out and bought a house together which makes the panties there inexplicable by a past ex before they met.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Why haven't you checked his cell phone bill? He can't delete that shit.

That's what I said.

I would just play it cool and not make a big deal about it. Then, start going through bills, emails, etc.
 
all the whey said:
That's what I said.

I would just play it cool and not make a big deal about it. Then, start going through bills, emails, etc.

That's probably what I would do too. In your gut you always know...and you're always right.
 
Bino said:
yes, he is an adult wtf?
and his monies are paying for the house that you share together...imo, you have zero right to "send" him to his mothers house like a scolded puppy
i think all signals point to an innocent man
and
do the panties have stains? post pics if so

U gotta be smoking crack.
First off, i go back to work in about 2 weeks. I pull in just as much dough for this house as he does.
Second, im not gonna leave and drag my 10 week old son to a new place because my hubby can't keep track of his stray panties.
I was just thinking of his mother's house so he would have a place to stay. Honestly, right now, i don't care where he goes. If he would be honest, things wouldn't need to get this bad. I'm sick of him lying to my face.
 
ceo said:
That's probably what I would do too. In your gut you always know...and you're always right.

Yep.

Everytime I had that feeling in my gut I eventually found out I was right.

It does no good to argue with them about it. It just makes them cover their tracts better.
 
all the whey said:
That's what I said.

I would just play it cool and not make a big deal about it. Then, start going through bills, emails, etc.

We talked about this earlier in the thread. Most cops have a seperate phone they keep at work. I know several who have one and they all deny it to their wives. Plus, they have email at work. Can't be accessed from home and i can't hack into the police dept's computer system.
 
myway said:
U gotta be smoking crack.
First off, i go back to work in about 2 weeks. I pull in just as much dough for this house as he does.
Second, im not gonna leave and drag my 10 week old son to a new place because my hubby can't keep track of his stray panties.
I was just thinking of his mother's house so he would have a place to stay. Honestly, right now, i don't care where he goes. If he would be honest, things wouldn't need to get this bad. I'm sick of him lying to my face.
But you don't really know if he's lying. He could be telling the truth. All you have is alot of suspicion (innocent until proven guilty) and a bunch of people on the interweb who want blood and drama.
 
myway said:
U gotta be smoking crack.
First off, i go back to work in about 2 weeks. I pull in just as much dough for this house as he does.
Second, im not gonna leave and drag my 10 week old son to a new place because my hubby can't keep track of his stray panties.
I was just thinking of his mother's house so he would have a place to stay. Honestly, right now, i don't care where he goes. If he would be honest, things wouldn't need to get this bad. I'm sick of him lying to my face.


Looks like you've already convicted him. So checking into phone bills etc is too much work to possibly save your marriage?
 
myway said:
We talked about this earlier in the thread. Most cops have a seperate phone they keep at work. I know several who have one and they all deny it to their wives. Plus, they have email at work. Can't be accessed from home and i can't hack into the police dept's computer system.

They are called "Poon Phones".
 
EnderJE said:
But you don't really know if he's lying. He could be telling the truth. All you have is alot of suspicion (innocent until proven guilty) and a bunch of people on the interweb who want blood and drama.

I would LOVE to find out that im wrong. Unfortunatly, there is no other explaination.... unless my house is growing panties. I am always here. No one sleeps here, showers here except me or my husband.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Looks like you've already convicted him. So checking into phone bills etc is too much work to possibly save your marriage?

I have already talked about the phone issue.
 
myway said:
I have already talked about the phone issue.

He is just telling you to check everything. Even check his main cell phone. (if he does have a poon phone)
 
myway said:
I would LOVE to find out that im wrong. Unfortunatly, there is no other explaination.... unless my house is growing panties. I am always here. No one sleeps here, showers here except me or my husband.
If you're always there then any funny bidness happened somewhere else. Maybe in the truck, which begs the question - if they're already in his truck why would he bring them into the house to get rid of them? Are you in the truck often? If he schtoinked somebody at her place why would he take her bloomers in a to-go bag? Maybe there just some strippers undies that she threw off stage in which case who really cares?
 
ceo said:
hire someone to find him out somehow.

Yes, but BE CAREFUL MYWAY!@!!!

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Dial_tone said:
If you're always there then any funny bidness happened somewhere else. Maybe in the truck, which begs the question - if they're already in his truck why would he bring them into the house to get rid of them? Are you in the truck often? If he schtoinked somebody at her place why would he take her bloomers in a to-go bag? Maybe there just some strippers undies that she threw off stage in which case who really cares?

I drive his truck all the time. He hasn't been to any strip clubs for a long time. That would be a good answer but I think he would have told me by now. I never get mad about that stuff. That would have made this easy if they were from a strip club.
 
all the whey said:
Yes, but BE CAREFUL MYWAY!@!!!

1petwe.jpg
yeah, that shit freaks me out. Don't foget about Bobby Cutts Jr. Their two year old said, "mama's in the rug, daddy's mad" makes me wanna cry. :evil:
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Are you high? A strange woman's underwear DONT = innocence.

If it were the other way around (meaning that the hubby found strange boxer's in wifey's laundry) then would it still = innocent woman?

PUH-LEASE.

The guy is a dumbass because he got sloppy.

But AN infidelity is also not a reason to end a marriage. Talk it out. If he won't come clean to some level of stupidity (we are all human) then he needs to find someplace else to get his laundry done - ie his momma's house.
if the panties fit you must acquit
 
myway said:
U gotta be smoking crack.
First off, i go back to work in about 2 weeks. I pull in just as much dough for this house as he does.
Second, im not gonna leave and drag my 10 week old son to a new place because my hubby can't keep track of his stray panties.
I was just thinking of his mother's house so he would have a place to stay. Honestly, right now, i don't care where he goes. If he would be honest, things wouldn't need to get this bad. I'm sick of him lying to my face.
obiviously this has more to do with a pair of random panties
i sense a pattern of distrust
 
Bino said:
if the panties fit you must acquit

:lmao:

On a serious note, I am taking no pleasure in Myway's distress... I mean, how THE HELL do a strange woman's underpants end up in the wash?

THERE IS NO "LOGICAL" EXPLANATION.

As I said, I believe that an indiscretion is not a reason to end an otherwise sound marriage that just sorta hit a bump in the road. But if the only thing holding it together is the baby then this may be something that should not be excused so easily

In any case it should NOT be overlooked.

If it were a pair of strange boxerbriefs something tells me that the hubby wouldn't be so understanding... not that EITHER party should be.
 
EnderJE said:
But you don't really know if he's lying. He could be telling the truth. All you have is alot of suspicion (innocent until proven guilty) and a bunch of people on the interweb who want blood and drama.

Yea, and I "could be a virgin". :rolleyes:

There is no "reasonable explanation" for a strange adult's intimate garments to end up in a family's wash when no other adult was staying at their home.

NONE.

I mean, when was the last time ANYONE'S underwear ended up in YOUR LAUNDRY?... Anyone that hadn't stayed at your house, that is?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Yea, and I "could be a virgin". :rolleyes:

There is no "reasonable explanation" for a strange adult's intimate garments to end up in a family's wash when no other adult was staying at their home.

NONE.

I mean, when was the last time ANYONE'S underwear ended up in YOUR LAUNDRY?... Anyone that hadn't stayed at your house, that is?

exactly. this sux.
 
I know you don't like mentioning this, but what was the deal with the smashed laptop - does that tie in at all as far as trust issues on your part or reasons for the lack of trust etc?

Is there a pattern of behavior on his behalf that you haven't disclosed (not that you are obligated to tell us anything)? Have you ever had infidelity issues or questionable behavior be an issue BEFORE the panties incident?

I'm not sure what I'd do in your shoes...I probably would have kept quiet about it for a while till I decided whether or not to do a little digging and/or mental cataloging of behavior patterns.
 
myway said:
exactly. this sux.
If you really feel that way and don't see any possible explaination or want to hear him out; then divorce him now. Why waste time?

I don't know your situation or him, so I see a possiblity. Unlike others, my experiences with the opposite sex haven't been as shitty as some of the others on here and I'm to keep an open (and hopeful) mind about it. But then again, the people on here have always (IMO) been a bloodthirsty lot. Sure, we want to comfort you, but also wants to hear your pain at the same time.

Either way, it's your life. I'm sure it will turn out fine either way,
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Yea, and I "could be a virgin". :rolleyes:

There is no "reasonable explanation" for a strange adult's intimate garments to end up in a family's wash when no other adult was staying at their home.

NONE.

I mean, when was the last time ANYONE'S underwear ended up in YOUR LAUNDRY?... Anyone that hadn't stayed at your house, that is?
There are alot of things where there is no reasonable explanation.

There's no reasonable explanation for religion, rampant consumer debt and morbidly obese fat people. If people are willing to believe in some holy ghost without any proof, getting ahead by bad debt, and eating to oblivion, then a wife could believe her husband.

However, I do understand your position. Given your all your stories, I'm not surprised about your position. I'm just saying to give him the benefit of the doubt given that none of us really know him.
 
nefertiti said:
I know you don't like mentioning this, but what was the deal with the smashed laptop - does that tie in at all as far as trust issues on your part or reasons for the lack of trust etc?

Is there a pattern of behavior on his behalf that you haven't disclosed (not that you are obligated to tell us anything)? Have you ever had infidelity issues or questionable behavior be an issue BEFORE the panties incident?

I'm not sure what I'd do in your shoes...I probably would have kept quiet about it for a while till I decided whether or not to do a little digging and/or mental cataloging of behavior patterns.

The laptop incident was because of trust issues. He's been caught on the phone with an ex, plus, I installed a key logger that found some denied activity..... but I was never able to get solid proof. I had to chalk up the laptop incident to me over-reacting. I should have waited longer but it's hard to get anything on him since he's a cop. He drives around town free, 12 hours a day with no way to track him. I can't GPS a police car. Most of those guys have 2nd phones they don't bring home. I can't hack the police dept's email system. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt until I found some undeniable evidence. I can't think of any reasonable explaination for stray panties in my dryer.
 
EnderJE said:
If you really feel that way and don't see any possible explaination or want to hear him out; then divorce him now. Why waste time?

I don't know your situation or him, so I see a possiblity. Unlike others, my experiences with the opposite sex haven't been as shitty as some of the others on here and I'm to keep an open (and hopeful) mind about it. But then again, the people on here have always (IMO) been a bloodthirsty lot. Sure, we want to comfort you, but also wants to hear your pain at the same time.

Either way, it's your life. I'm sure it will turn out fine either way,

I am willing to hear him out. He's just not saying much. He's just saying he's innocent and doesn't know where they came from. He's almost shrugging it off as nothing.
 
myway said:
I am willing to hear him out. He's just not saying much. He's just saying he's innocent and doesn't know where they came from. He's almost shrugging it off as nothing.
What do you think happened? What are your suspicions?
 
It sounds like hes cheating.

Although, to play devil's advocate, there may very well be some other explanation. A few years back my wife was convinced I was cheating on here with some slut I worked with. Why? The girl (who I refused to shag...due to being married and all) went on a website and sent text messages to herself but entering my phone number on the "sent from" line (Cingular offered this back in the day). She forwarded them to my wife...this was her "undeniable proof."

It was only after I got the slut on speakerphone and told her to tell me wife the exact dates we supposedly fucked that I was able to prove her a liar. The girl claimed we were together the previous few weekends, not knowing that my wife and I moved out of state 2 months earlier.

Moral of the story, its not confirmed until its confirmed. Talk to the man.
 
75th said:
It sounds like hes cheating.

Although, to play devil's advocate, there may very well be some other explanation. A few years back my wife was convinced I was cheating on here with some slut I worked with. Why? The girl (who I refused to shag...due to being married and all) went on a website and sent text messages to herself but entering my phone number on the "sent from" line (Cingular offered this back in the day). She forwarded them to my wife...this was her "undeniable proof."

It was only after I got the slut on speakerphone and told her to tell me wife the exact dates we supposedly fucked that I was able to prove her a liar. The girl claimed we were together the previous few weekends, not knowing that my wife and I moved out of state 2 months earlier.

Moral of the story, its not confirmed until its confirmed. Talk to the man.

I understand that fcuked up stuff(like ur story) can happen. The problem is:
If he's afraid of getting caught and is not ready for our marriage to end... why would he ever tell me the truth? If I decide I need a confession before I'm SURE he's innocent, then he needs to just never confess. That doesn't mean he's being honest. It bothers me how he's not giving much of a reaction. It's like he realizes that I will never have any other way to find out any truth other than what he tells me.
 
myway said:
I understand that fcuked up stuff(like ur story) can happen. The problem is:
If he's afraid of getting caught and is not ready for our marriage to end... why would he ever tell me the truth? If I decide I need a confession before I'm SURE he's innocent, then he needs to just never confess. That doesn't mean he's being honest. It bothers me how he's not giving much of a reaction. It's like he realizes that I will never have any other way to find out any truth other than what he tells me.
Tell him its Myway or the Highway...... divorce him, there are plenty of other men that make more money so you dont have to work etc:
 
Arabian said:
Tell him its Myway or the Highway...... divorce him, there are plenty of other men that make more money so you dont have to work etc:

I'm all about it BUT need to know(for my own sanity) that I'm making the right choice. I just got off the phone with my dad and he told me I need to come home(to my parents house). It would be good because they have plenty of money and time to help me through this..... but I'm married with a 10 week old son. I need to feel like I'm doing the right thing before I do something drastic. I keep thinking if I sit here for 5 more minutes, my hubby will call with a better explaination. I think I need to get my head outta my ass and go put on my big girl panties.
 
myway said:
I'm all about it BUT need to know(for my own sanity) that I'm making the right choice. I just got off the phone with my dad and he told me I need to come home(to my parents house). It would be good because they have plenty of money and time to help me through this..... but I'm married with a 10 week old son. I need to feel like I'm doing the right thing before I do something drastic. I keep thinking if I sit here for 5 more minutes, my hubby will call with a better explaination. I think I need to get my head outta my ass and go put on my big girl panties.
I would leave and let him figure it out........ and I would not come back... once a cheater always a cheater... do not stay in the marriage for a kid.... you can meet someone else that will appreciate you...
 
myway said:
I'm all about it BUT need to know(for my own sanity) that I'm making the right choice. I just got off the phone with my dad and he told me I need to come home(to my parents house). It would be good because they have plenty of money and time to help me through this..... but I'm married with a 10 week old son. I need to feel like I'm doing the right thing before I do something drastic. I keep thinking if I sit here for 5 more minutes, my hubby will call with a better explaination. I think I need to get my head outta my ass and go put on my big girl panties.
I can pretty much guarantee you that if you left (and he still does indeed love you) that he will tell you the truth.
 
75th said:
I can pretty much guarantee you that if you left (and he still does indeed love you) that he will tell you the truth.
Exactly, he thinks if he remains silent and denies it, then it will be hell for a month or so however she will forget about it...
 
Arabian said:
Exactly, he thinks if he remains silent and denies it, then it will be hell for a month or so however she will forget about it...

If he's dumb enough to believe a woman would forget this, he's to stupid to stop a crime! It will never be forgotten. Forgiven maybe. Forgotten...never.
 
myway said:
The laptop incident was because of trust issues. He's been caught on the phone with an ex, plus, I installed a key logger that found some denied activity..... but I was never able to get solid proof. I had to chalk up the laptop incident to me over-reacting. I should have waited longer but it's hard to get anything on him since he's a cop. He drives around town free, 12 hours a day with no way to track him. I can't GPS a police car. Most of those guys have 2nd phones they don't bring home. I can't hack the police dept's email system. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt until I found some undeniable evidence. I can't think of any reasonable explaination for stray panties in my dryer.

OH...WELL...DAMN!!!!!!

That paints a whole new light on this. That motherfucker reeeeally got some 'splainin to do bout dem panties!!!! Although it doesn't sound like that's going to happen.

So, you've had issues in the past. Even though they were somewhat minor (as far as we know), you ignored them. Now you've got the beginnings of some bigger issues. Something stinks myway. I have a feeling there's more you're not telling us. More you chose to ignore possibly? I hate to say it but it sure doesn't look good from here. :(
 
myway said:
I understand that fcuked up stuff(like ur story) can happen. The problem is:
If he's afraid of getting caught and is not ready for our marriage to end... why would he ever tell me the truth? If I decide I need a confession before I'm SURE he's innocent, then he needs to just never confess. That doesn't mean he's being honest. It bothers me how he's not giving much of a reaction. It's like he realizes that I will never have any other way to find out any truth other than what he tells me.

this is why i'm doubting his guilt
a guilty man would over react with excuses/explanations
the fact that he is laid back about it leads me to believe he is innocent and not concerned.
i think you are reaching for reasons to leave him imo
 
myway said:
The laptop incident was because of trust issues. He's been caught on the phone with an ex, plus, I installed a key logger that found some denied activity..... but I was never able to get solid proof. I had to chalk up the laptop incident to me over-reacting. I should have waited longer but it's hard to get anything on him since he's a cop. He drives around town free, 12 hours a day with no way to track him. I can't GPS a police car. Most of those guys have 2nd phones they don't bring home. I can't hack the police dept's email system. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt until I found some undeniable evidence. I can't think of any reasonable explaination for stray panties in my dryer.


Not sure how I missed this the first time around. I've known way too many scandalous cheating cops, I even work with a retired one. You've got the green light from me to remove his genitalia.
 
Bino said:
this is why i'm doubting his guilt
a guilty man would over react with excuses/explanations
the fact that he is laid back about it leads me to believe he is innocent and not concerned.
i think you are reaching for reasons to leave him imo


Maybe not some people can keep their cool and will still deny if they think you have no proof it happened to me. The truth would come out eventually if she now kept her eyes wide open.
 
Bino said:
this is why i'm doubting his guilt
a guilty man would over react with excuses/explanations
the fact that he is laid back about it leads me to believe he is innocent and not concerned.
i think you are reaching for reasons to leave him imo
Naaaaa, the best way to get away with a bald faced lie is to be totally nonchalant about it. Look the person in the face and basically go "you're nuts," then let THEM stew on it while you leave the room, go about your business and think like a mutherfucker.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
 
Okay, here's the answer here, people:

If he didn't know where the panties came from, he'd be just as perplexed as Myway is about how strange underwear got in his laundry. He's a fucking cop, he'd want an answer to the mystery, it's in his nature.

He sure as shit wouldn't go, "Huh, well ain't that funny? You know I love you babe."

He'd go "Where the fuck did those things come from and how the fuck did they get in there?!" He'd be scratching his head, he'd be bouncing some ideas off his wife, he'd come home from work and tell her about how he asked a couple of buddies he'd pulled pranks on if they put them in his pocket to get him in trouble with his jealous wife.

The man is not wondering where the panties came from because he knows where they came from.
 
Bino said:
this is why i'm doubting his guilt
a guilty man would over react with excuses/explanations
the fact that he is laid back about it leads me to believe he is innocent and not concerned.
i think you are reaching for reasons to leave him imo
Interesting, never considered that angle.
 
musclemom said:
Okay, here's the answer here, people:

If he didn't know where the panties came from, he'd be just as perplexed as Myway is about how strange underwear got in his laundry. He's a fucking cop, he'd want an answer to the mystery, it's in his nature.

He sure as shit wouldn't go, "Huh, well ain't that funny? You know I love you babe."

He'd go "Where the fuck did those things come from and how the fuck did they get in there?!" He'd be scratching his head, he'd be bouncing some ideas off his wife, he'd come home from work and tell her about how he asked a couple of buddies he'd pulled pranks on if they put them in his pocket to get him in trouble with his jealous wife.

The man is not wondering where the panties came from because he knows where they came from.
I'm glad you speak on behalf of all people. lmao

Maybe he's calm by nature...lmao, you know what? It really doesn't matter at this point. You people are determined to nail him on the cross without really know him, the situation or anything about it. Sure, you might have been in similiar situations when things have turned out; but we all know this situation is just a repeat of your life because it's all the same. Sure, all guys are crap and all girls are sluts. lmao...
 
musclemom said:
Okay, here's the answer here, people:

If he didn't know where the panties came from, he'd be just as perplexed as Myway is about how strange underwear got in his laundry. He's a fucking cop, he'd want an answer to the mystery, it's in his nature.

He sure as shit wouldn't go, "Huh, well ain't that funny? You know I love you babe."

He'd go "Where the fuck did those things come from and how the fuck did they get in there?!" He'd be scratching his head, he'd be bouncing some ideas off his wife, he'd come home from work and tell her about how he asked a couple of buddies he'd pulled pranks on if they put them in his pocket to get him in trouble with his jealous wife.

The man is not wondering where the panties came from because he knows where they came from.
Good point -- wouldn't a cop's intellectual curiosity drive him toward wanting to know?
 
musclemom said:
Okay, here's the answer here, people:

If he didn't know where the panties came from, he'd be just as perplexed as Myway is about how strange underwear got in his laundry. He's a fucking cop, he'd want an answer to the mystery, it's in his nature.

He sure as shit wouldn't go, "Huh, well ain't that funny? You know I love you babe."

He'd go "Where the fuck did those things come from and how the fuck did they get in there?!" He'd be scratching his head, he'd be bouncing some ideas off his wife, he'd come home from work and tell her about how he asked a couple of buddies he'd pulled pranks on if they put them in his pocket to get him in trouble with his jealous wife.The man is not wondering where the panties came from because he knows where they came from.
actions of a guilty man trying to be elaborate with excuses and gestures
been there before for sure...if i was officernate and innocent, i would react the same way, like "wtf, it's not mine, i don't know, get over it"
esp after a long day of haggling with criminals...he's proly thinking it's not a big deal and reacted approriatley...i assume myway wasn't outright with her rage and suspicion.
this is of course speculation, but it's not as cut and dry as you make it seem...plus previous posts indicate their has been trust issues in the past...which can equal automatically assuming the worse in a relationship even if the worse has not really happened
the worse is what you project to have happen, and if this projection is negative, then the relationship is over
 
mrplunkey said:
Good point -- wouldn't a cop's intellectual curiosity drive him toward wanting to know?
you think he's gonna finger print the fuggin panties? send them away for forensic testing (dna in skid marks can reveal a lot)
 
nefertiti said:
I know you don't like mentioning this, but what was the deal with the smashed laptop - does that tie in at all as far as trust issues on your part or reasons for the lack of trust etc?

Is there a pattern of behavior on his behalf that you haven't disclosed (not that you are obligated to tell us anything)? Have you ever had infidelity issues or questionable behavior be an issue BEFORE the panties incident?

I'm not sure what I'd do in your shoes...I probably would have kept quiet about it for a while till I decided whether or not to do a little digging and/or mental cataloging of behavior patterns.

Wow you nailed that!

Lying about cell calls and emails change everything.


I doubt any guy would ever get away with cheating on you!@ You run a tight ship!
 
EnderJE said:
There are alot of things where there is no reasonable explanation.

There's no reasonable explanation for religion, rampant consumer debt and morbidly obese fat people. If people are willing to believe in some holy ghost without any proof, getting ahead by bad debt, and eating to oblivion, then a wife could believe her husband.

However, I do understand your position. Given your all your stories, I'm not surprised about your position. I'm just saying to give him the benefit of the doubt given that none of us really know him.

There is a difference between having faith in a divine force and turning your head to an obvious indiscretion.

I am 40 years old and seen a bit of life (not hardly near as much as I would like to see though!). I am one of the greatest proponents of thinking outside the box and "why be normal" and don't let others decide your reality HOWEVER if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like a duck... it is most likely A DUCK.

Sucks for Myway, but c'est la vie. We all get knocked down, that's just life. That don't make us special. What DOES separate one from the herd is that they keep getting back up.
 
From avi's it looks like the panties could belong to Bikinimom.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
There is a difference between having faith in a divine force and turning your head to an obvious indiscretion.

I am 40 years old and seen a bit of life (not hardly near as much as I would like to see though!). I am one of the greatest proponents of thinking outside the box and "why be normal" and don't let others decide your reality HOWEVER if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like a duck... it is most likely A DUCK.

Sucks for Myway, but c'est la vie. We all get knocked down, that's just life. That don't make us special. What DOES separate one from the herd is that they keep getting back up.

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My, my, he must be a real cocky fellow to just go to bed after his wife and mother of his newborn child just found another woman's panties in his laundry.

And when you say a "clean phone' do you mean the recent calls, missed calls or do you mean the actual phone bill?

If you mean the actual phone and that he clears all the incoming and outgoing messages - that is a bit odd (paranoid or devious). And since I'm rambling, what did he do in the past to make you feel that you have to check his phone?
 
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Smurfy said:
exactly
i wouldnt hesitate to have him followed
who's gonna follow a cop? Most PI's are ex cops. They stick together like the mafia...........ok, well they stick together like the mafia used to.
 
velvett said:
My, my, he must be a real cocky fellow to just go to bed after his wife and mother of his newborn child just found another woman's panties in his laundry.

And when you say a "clean phone' do you mean the recent calls, missed calls or do you mean the actual phone bill?

If you mean the actual phone and that he clears all the incoming and outgoing messages - that is a bit odd (paranoid or devious). And since I'm rambling, what did he do in the past to make you feel that you have to check his phone?

He busted him in the past lying about talking to his ex on the cell.

Also, busted him online. (had something to do with the laptop incident)
 
Dial_tone said:
who's gonna follow a cop? Most PI's are ex cops. They stick together like the mafia...........ok, well they stick together like the mafia used to.

Mine will follow whoever the fuck I tell him to when Im paying thousands of dollars. trust me.
 
Dial_tone said:
From avi's it looks like the panties could belong to Bikinimom.

LOL Brotha DT them panties (or what there is of 'em) are a size SMALL.

Yes, there was a time when I was in the DT Hall of Bootylicious Fame *sniff* but them days is long since past. So now I am remanded to my saltine-ass... but a rock hard saltine it is nonetheless... and I gots the glute-hamstring tie-ins to prove it! :qt:

.... neveryoumind the fact that my Old Grump treats my kitty with such delicacy and finesse, that there is NOTHING that another man could offer me that would even make me turn my head... perish the thought of straying. :heart:
 
all the whey said:
He busted him in the past lying about talking to his ex on the cell.

Also, busted him online. (had something to do with the laptop incident)

Then he is a cocky arrogant jackass sob (sorry) who even after being caught previously is reacting so flip about the panties. I would be infuriated but I would sit back, hold on to the panties and wait for the next bomb to drop while planning what to do in the event the marriage was heading for rocky waters.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
LOL Brotha DT them panties (or what there is of 'em) are a size SMALL.

Yes, there was a time when I was in the DT Hall of Bootylicious Fame *sniff* but them days is long since past. So now I am remanded to my saltine-ass... but a rock hard saltine it is nonetheless... and I gots the glute-hamstring tie-ins to prove it! :qt:

.... neveryoumind the fact that my Old Grump treats my kitty with such delicacy and finesse, that there is NOTHING that another man could offer me that would even make me turn my head... perish the thought of straying. :heart:

Even you can't make this thread about you.

So, you might as well punt.
 
all the whey said:
Wow you nailed that!

Lying about cell calls and emails change everything.


I doubt any guy would ever get away with cheating on you!@ You run a tight ship!

I have a ridiculous memory...and as a result, unless someone is the best liar ever, I tend to catch inconsistencies without even trying.

I don't know that I run a tight ship, because it's not like I'm in a constant state of suspicion. I'm not...but not much gets by me.
 
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I have just a few points to make:

1) Remember that line from the Eddie Murphy stand-up. Unless your woman finds you with your dick in her pussy - you deny it. Even if she does find you with your dick in her pussy - you say it is just sex but I Love You

2) Cops are the biggest and most convincing liars in the world. They get it from all their practice on the witness stands.

However - if you really did not know where they came from, what else would you say?

Personal incident - one time I came home from work and all my shit was in the front lawn. Long story short, a friend thought it would be funny so had some cards made up from a medical clinic. Sent one to my house saying I my test came back positive for STD and needed to schedule another appointment. Now try convincing your wife that was a joke.

If someone is playing a joke on him, when you go stay with your parents, it will flush that out pretty quick.
 
just have him do your laundry next time in throw a size XL tidy widy in with your stuff.
 
velvett said:
Then he is a cocky arrogant jackass sob (sorry) who even after being caught previously is reacting so flip about the panties. I would be infuriated but I would sit back, hold on to the panties and wait for the next bomb to drop while planning what to do in the event the marriage was heading for rocky waters.


Now THIS GIRL...has HER shit...TOGETHERRRRRRRRRRRRRR@@!!!!!!!@#!
 
Tonight, when he got home from work, he seemed all bummed out. I went to my friend's house(she lives down the street) and he showed up. We didn't fight or anything but I had already told my friend about what happened. None of us said anything about what hapened but it was like he was trying to make us all feel bad for him. He was acting all nice but depressed. He left, brought me some more wine, then went home. I don't even know how to deal with him. He just told me he's worried because he didn't do anything wrong........yet, he couldn't tell me how the stray panties got into our home. I'm still at my friend's house but should go home, soon. This sucks. I'm tired but he's sleeping in our bed. No thanks.
 
All I'm saying is you need to be 110% sure they don't belong to you or ANYONE you know before you drop it all in his lap. If you're wrong then when he does do something he shouldn't have done he's gonna throw this in your face and say "see, you didn't believe me last time either".
 
Dial_tone said:
All I'm saying is you need to be 110% sure they don't belong to you or ANYONE you know before you drop it all in his lap. If you're wrong then when he does do something he shouldn't have done he's gonna throw this in your face and say "see, you didn't believe me last time either".

I understand what ur saying. Unfortunately, he is still not saying anything new. I have talked to anyone who has been in my house(not many people spend time in my home). My parents and his parents BOTH say it sounds fishy... even after speaking to him about it. I'm trying to do what's right. I don't want to raise my child in a home away from his father unless there is no other option. My friends, his friends, EVERYONE said that I should leave. He can't give ANY of us a good answer. This sux.
 
myway said:
I understand what ur saying. Unfortunately, he is still not saying anything new. I have talked to anyone who has been in my house(not many people spend time in my home). My parents and his parents BOTH say it sounds fishy... even after speaking to him about it. I'm trying to do what's right. I don't want to raise my child in a home away from his father unless there is no other option. My friends, his friends, EVERYONE said that I should leave. He can't give ANY of us a good answer. This sux.

Sorry buddy. I wish I could make you feel better.

I would even let you bust up my laptop to make you feel better.
 
myway said:
I understand what ur saying. Unfortunately, he is still not saying anything new. I have talked to anyone who has been in my house(not many people spend time in my home). My parents and his parents BOTH say it sounds fishy... even after speaking to him about it. I'm trying to do what's right. I don't want to raise my child in a home away from his father unless there is no other option. My friends, his friends, EVERYONE said that I should leave. He can't give ANY of us a good answer. This sux.
I am so sorry you are going though this crap. No advice, just a hug.
 
javaguru said:
Post a pic of your Lesbian erotica.... :)

WTF?

Did I miss something while I was away?
 
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